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Post: # 1133818Post desertsaint »

i always thought taking lovett was a stupid act made in desperation.
ross won't want to make another like it.
forget this fev fantasy, aint gonna happen.


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Post: # 1133875Post Dan Warna »

riewoldt is an outstanding leader off the field as well as on.

F.ebola is a 30 year old ratbag off the field.

taking f.ebola is taking st kidla back to the 80s when we pick up every has been bad for a season or two.

I hope, i really hope we don't take this bad fish into the club.


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Spinner wrote:
Teflon wrote:
Spinner wrote:
Teflon wrote:
Spinner wrote:Why does everyone think we stuffed up with Cousins?

Didnt anyone see his documentary....?



The bloke was an ice addict... and with all due respect probably still is,
agreed. completely destroyed Tigers.....I even heard their coach on TV bemoaning how much positive damage he'd done to the Tigers younger players...

phew....dodged a bullet there..

thank god for Lovett. :roll:
1. I came to my opinion on his performances by going to Richmond games and watching him. How did you measure his impact on teammates?
This was funny...

Did you take notes at the Richmond games poindexter? - we might yet be able to get Hardwick a copy for future reference....cause he's wrong and lying in his view of Cousins contribution at Richmond.....and you have the REAL story.... :lol:


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Dan Warna wrote:riewoldt is an outstanding leader off the field as well as on.

F.ebola is a 30 year old ratbag off the field.

taking f.ebola is taking st kidla back to the 80s when we pick up every has been bad for a season or two.

I hope, i really hope we don't take this bad fish into the club.
Aside from his issues and he has a few the reality with Fevola is the game no longer suits 1 trick fwds with no defensive pressure, who are pure lead-up and not contested grabs. Riewoldt is suffering through this now and I hope he can change aspects to his game to get some domination back.

If anything we need a stand and deliver fwd aka Cloke - not Fevola. Both Kosi/Roo are pushed off the ball way to easily IMHO but good when they get a run and jump at it.


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Post: # 1133909Post Spinner »

Teflon wrote:
Spinner wrote:
Teflon wrote:
Spinner wrote:
Teflon wrote:
Spinner wrote:Why does everyone think we stuffed up with Cousins?

Didnt anyone see his documentary....?



The bloke was an ice addict... and with all due respect probably still is,
agreed. completely destroyed Tigers.....I even heard their coach on TV bemoaning how much positive damage he'd done to the Tigers younger players...

phew....dodged a bullet there..

thank god for Lovett. :roll:
1. I came to my opinion on his performances by going to Richmond games and watching him. How did you measure his impact on teammates?
This was funny...

Did you take notes at the Richmond games poindexter? - we might yet be able to get Hardwick a copy for future reference....cause he's wrong and lying in his view of Cousins contribution at Richmond.....and you have the REAL story.... :lol:


Gold.

Wow now we are not allowed to watch player perform and rate. Simple yet effective.

But you are allowed to use as an argument the impact he had on his teammates. An effect not only near impossible to measure but definitely impossible to measure from outside the club.

What was this effect on his teammates? Was it emotional? Was it confidence? Was it jealousy he was taking ones spot in the team? Was it intimidating? Was it pity?


And I'm not a poindexter. Don't whinge and sook Teffers when someone critisizes your opinion.


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Post: # 1133953Post Teflon »

Spinner wrote:
Teflon wrote:
Spinner wrote:
Teflon wrote:
Spinner wrote:
Teflon wrote:
Spinner wrote:Why does everyone think we stuffed up with Cousins?

Didnt anyone see his documentary....?



The bloke was an ice addict... and with all due respect probably still is,
agreed. completely destroyed Tigers.....I even heard their coach on TV bemoaning how much positive damage he'd done to the Tigers younger players...

phew....dodged a bullet there..

thank god for Lovett. :roll:
1. I came to my opinion on his performances by going to Richmond games and watching him. How did you measure his impact on teammates?
This was funny...

Did you take notes at the Richmond games poindexter? - we might yet be able to get Hardwick a copy for future reference....cause he's wrong and lying in his view of Cousins contribution at Richmond.....and you have the REAL story.... :lol:


Gold.

Wow now we are not allowed to watch player perform and rate. Simple yet effective.

But you are allowed to use as an argument the impact he had on his teammates. An effect not only near impossible to measure but definitely impossible to measure from outside the club.

What was this effect on his teammates? Was it emotional? Was it confidence? Was it jealousy he was taking ones spot in the team? Was it intimidating? Was it pity?


And I'm not a poindexter. Don't whinge and sook Teffers when someone critisizes your opinion.
Im not the whinger who doesnt like it when someone simply shows them up for the fool they are (now that IS after the fact..)

Your only claim against Cousins coming to St Kilda is because he had a drug problem. It irks you it didnt hinder his efforts at Richmond so you need to find some pathetic reason to justify St Kilda not taking him. Lame.

Again, you dont like the FACT the Richmond coach is on record in talking up the benefits they got from having Cousins around the place - so you play that down cause "one day you went to a game..".....

Well done.
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Fev will go to the Hawks


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SainterK wrote:Fev will go to the Hawks
Why would they want him? They have Buddy and Roughead ready next year.


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plugger66 wrote:
SainterK wrote:Fev will go to the Hawks
Why would they want him? They have Buddy and Roughead ready next year.
Really?

I thought Roughy suffered a setback and isn't due to at least after the halfway point next year, and even if Buddy is OK or not (I reckon it's an ACL) tonight showed the potential fallout if he did go down.


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SainterK wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
SainterK wrote:Fev will go to the Hawks
Why would they want him? They have Buddy and Roughead ready next year.
Really?

I thought Roughy suffered a setback and isn't due to at least after the halfway point next year, and even if Buddy is OK or not (I reckon it's an ACL) tonight showed the potential fallout if he did go down.
Would think both will play round one so no idea why they would want some loser like Fev. Buddy's looked nothing like an ACL to me. Jared knee at worst IMO.


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Post: # 1134232Post Dan Warna »

Lol fev's man just ran off him and scored a goal.

and he's had a few sooks at the umpire already.


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Post: # 1134239Post Dan Warna »

LOL now he's getting frustrated and giving away free's and complaining. champion traditional form from fev...good thing he's reformed :lol:


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Dan Warna wrote:LOL now he's getting frustrated and giving away free's and complaining. champion traditional form from fev...good thing he's reformed :lol:
Case closed.


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Post: # 1134249Post Dan Warna »

hey isn't it judged on form? flat track bully.


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Post: # 1134253Post skeptic »

joffaboy wrote: totally wrong. You never "get over" an addiction. You are an addict for life.
Totally wrong

SOME poeple never get over addictions and live with them

some people do

ever met an ex smoker who can hang out at a smoky bar and still not want to light up

some people can be addicted to heroin for years and after beating there addiction never even get tempted again


seems to me that the usual subjects are again more interested in playing the man then the ball as evidenced by their own "FACTS" to discredit rather than win an argument or contribute to a discussion





My personal opinion on the matter

Whilst disappointed at the time, I happily accepted the decision not to take Cousins - factor in the attention he would have brought on us, the risk, the Gardiner connection - I accepted that the ppl i/c knew enough to make the right call
the cost was very very low though


Whilst I thought Lovett was the type of player we needed and wasn't initially unhappy with that trade... (although IMO we clearly paid over the odds in the search for a quck pick - was never worth more then a 2nd round pick at best) we wasted a 1st round pick on a risky player with a poor attitude.

Personally I don't think you can justify the stance on Cousins with accepting Lovett who came at a far greater cost

Marto called it at the time and I think he got it right

if you look at it like this... what's the best deal
a) Cosuins for pick 99'ish
b) Lovett for pick 20'ish
c) Fevola for pick 100'ish

It seems poor to me that the only risk we're willing to take is on B.
No to all of them makes sense, but if you take a punt how is that the best one.


The only justification for Fev IMO is
a) he costs us nothing
b) can play right away
c) has x-factor we don't have (can goal against momentum
d) would be on an air tight contract

we could get him and concentrate on landing a premium midfielder

that may actually be a good outcome


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Post: # 1134255Post Dan Warna »

anyone watch him today?

he sooked, he gave away soft frees, he complained to the umpire, and didn't chase him man, who scored a goal. He rarely left the goal score and lambasted a team mate who didn't pass to him.

showed enough to suggest that he hasn't matured at all. He's still a petulant little boy at 30.

Not worth the risk if we are playing for a flag next and definitely not worth the risk if we are rebuilding.


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Dan Warna wrote:anyone watch him today?

he sooked, he gave away soft frees, he complained to the umpire, and didn't chase him man, who scored a goal. He rarely left the goal score and lambasted a team mate who didn't pass to him.

showed enough to suggest that he hasn't matured at all. He's still a petulant little boy at 30.

Not worth the risk if we are playing for a flag next and definitely not worth the risk if we are rebuilding.
that's disappointing to hear DW

that's not the behaviour of someone who is desperate for another chance is it


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often these guys go 1 of two ways... they come back model citizens like Gardiner or Cousins

Or they F%& up like Lovetts

Seems he's likely to be in the 2nd group


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skeptic wrote:often these guys go 1 of two ways... they come back model citizens like Gardiner or Cousins

Or they F%& up like Lovetts

Seems he's likely to be in the 2nd group
Not the sort of mentoring our young blokes need!


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Post: # 1134263Post skeptic »

if we're rebuilding he doesn't make sense at all


personally I don't think we need a huge rebuild... I think with Lenny we're a premium midfielder, an emerging midfielder and a decent player that can play up forward away from really challenging


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skeptic wrote:
Dan Warna wrote:anyone watch him today?

he sooked, he gave away soft frees, he complained to the umpire, and didn't chase him man, who scored a goal. He rarely left the goal score and lambasted a team mate who didn't pass to him.

showed enough to suggest that he hasn't matured at all. He's still a petulant little boy at 30.

Not worth the risk if we are playing for a flag next and definitely not worth the risk if we are rebuilding.
that's disappointing to hear DW

that's not the behaviour of someone who is desperate for another chance is it
Yep a poor effort from our 2012 full forward..


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spert wrote:
skeptic wrote:
Dan Warna wrote:anyone watch him today?

he sooked, he gave away soft frees, he complained to the umpire, and didn't chase him man, who scored a goal. He rarely left the goal score and lambasted a team mate who didn't pass to him.

showed enough to suggest that he hasn't matured at all. He's still a petulant little boy at 30.

Not worth the risk if we are playing for a flag next and definitely not worth the risk if we are rebuilding.
that's disappointing to hear DW

that's not the behaviour of someone who is desperate for another chance is it
Yep a poor effort from our 2012 full forward..
if true, its a pathetic player and human being we bring to the club.


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Why do we want another 30+ year old player in the team? We're better of recruiting a young up and comer and playing guys like Walsh and Siposs.


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Old Mate wrote:Why do we want another 30+ year old player in the team? We're better of recruiting a young up and comer and playing guys like Walsh and Siposs.
reactionary response from some for an instant fix.

these people would take st kilda back to the 1980s when every has been would come to st kilda for a retirement cheque and chicks in the disco...

or the timid watsgoing era when francis, monkey, delany came to st kilda and pushed out our kids.


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Two parts of their attitude to look at

Football attitude

Lifestyle attitude

The two can be mutually exclusive sometimes


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