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anyone done a count of the for Zac comments and the For Robert Comments under the article in the paper- It would seem that ( although I feel Zac could have used differant words) MANY support his comments...
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Probably just reflects that of those prepared to leave a comment, many dislike Robert Walls.saintbrat wrote:anyone done a count of the for Zac comments and the For Robert Comments under the article in the paper- It would seem that ( although I feel Zac could have used differant words) MANY support his comments...
I'm not sure how much of it is proZac rather than AntiWalls?
Over on BigFooty there is a general dislike for Walls as a commentator (immaterial of Club supported), other than seemingly universal support for him from Carlton supporting posters.
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Saying that I've read most of this and think; god wouldn't it be nice if we just backed our players all the time. What a difference that would make. How stupendously refreshing that would be. Who gives a skid mark about Walls' medals. I couldn't give a dirty skid mark.
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Saying that I've read most of this and think; god wouldn't it be nice if we just backed our players all the time. What a difference that would make. How stupendously refreshing that would be. Who gives a skid mark about Walls' medals. I couldn't give a dirty skid mark.
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ZAC YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE CLOWN!!!
Bitter because Walls referred to him as an ordinary player who needed to pull his head in after the NZ incident? That was fair commentary.
Try watching the footy and not your opponent, as you do constantly, and you may improve. Otherwise I'm waiting for Tommy Walsh to take your spot (as Max should have for the 2009 finals).
LET YOUR ACTIONS DO THE TALKING.
Bitter because Walls referred to him as an ordinary player who needed to pull his head in after the NZ incident? That was fair commentary.
Try watching the footy and not your opponent, as you do constantly, and you may improve. Otherwise I'm waiting for Tommy Walsh to take your spot (as Max should have for the 2009 finals).
LET YOUR ACTIONS DO THE TALKING.
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The reality is, and we all know it.....zac had no good reason for his comments.....they have not given him any more respect, and certainly wont worry a guy who's standing in footy is well established....
Ross will tear him a new arse for steppnig outside the "bubble" and allowing, even inviting MORE distraction.
Zac has proven himself to be an absolute fool at times in the last 8 months....for a player with a tetering career, he should be
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Nice little hiiden back-hander.....i must point out the irony again, you have questioned my ability to make comment due to lack of involvement......but how can you question someone, if you have similar or less involvement???
If you were ross lyon, your argument would be well founded.....not sure you are....
I am making comment on a fan forum, expressing an opinion....i am not paid for it, it is not an expert opinion..... You must understand, niether is yours...
Back to wallsy
He IS paid....because he gives EXPERT opinion.....
We might not think so, but a network, a newspaper and three football club boards think differently, because they have all employed him for his knowledge and experience......to borrow a line from you....from our experience, who are we to know better
Ross will tear him a new arse for steppnig outside the "bubble" and allowing, even inviting MORE distraction.
Zac has proven himself to be an absolute fool at times in the last 8 months....for a player with a tetering career, he should be
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Nice little hiiden back-hander.....i must point out the irony again, you have questioned my ability to make comment due to lack of involvement......but how can you question someone, if you have similar or less involvement???
If you were ross lyon, your argument would be well founded.....not sure you are....
I am making comment on a fan forum, expressing an opinion....i am not paid for it, it is not an expert opinion..... You must understand, niether is yours...
Back to wallsy
He IS paid....because he gives EXPERT opinion.....
We might not think so, but a network, a newspaper and three football club boards think differently, because they have all employed him for his knowledge and experience......to borrow a line from you....from our experience, who are we to know better
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I can understand the argument that Robert Walls is a man with an impressive VFL record and that he's paid to provide expert opinion.
For the sake of the argument I can see why some would consider Zac to be an ordinary player.
I can therefore see why the legend would provide commentary about an ordinary player and that commentary may not be flattering.
But Zac is hardly the worst player in the 17 team competition. If he's "ordinary" then so are quite a few others who are being selected on a regular basis.
Can any of the people rushing to Walls' defense here provide a list of the other ordinary players he has provided regular expert advice to?
For the sake of the argument I can see why some would consider Zac to be an ordinary player.
I can therefore see why the legend would provide commentary about an ordinary player and that commentary may not be flattering.
But Zac is hardly the worst player in the 17 team competition. If he's "ordinary" then so are quite a few others who are being selected on a regular basis.
Can any of the people rushing to Walls' defense here provide a list of the other ordinary players he has provided regular expert advice to?
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Mart,BigMart wrote:The reality is, and we all know it.....zac had no good reason for his comments.....they have not given him any more respect, and certainly wont worry a guy who's standing in footy is well established....
Ross will tear him a new arse for steppnig outside the "bubble" and allowing, even inviting MORE distraction.
Zac has proven himself to be an absolute fool at times in the last 8 months....for a player with a tetering career, he should be
Magic
Nice little hiiden back-hander.....i must point out the irony again, you have questioned my ability to make comment due to lack of involvement......but how can you question someone, if you have similar or less involvement???
If you were ross lyon, your argument would be well founded.....not sure you are....
I am making comment on a fan forum, expressing an opinion....i am not paid for it, it is not an expert opinion..... You must understand, niether is yours...
Back to wallsy
He IS paid....because he gives EXPERT opinion.....
We might not think so, but a network, a newspaper and three football club boards think differently, because they have all employed him for his knowledge and experience......to borrow a line from you....from our experience, who are we to know better
I'm glad you liked the 'hidden back-hander' - I felt enough time had passed since your raving rantings of Saturday night that I could wade into some of your posts without being accused (wrongly) of stalking your every post.
As to the point you're trying to make,
when I give my opinion on something that I know little about (or have no real experience in) I do so as a 'lay person', not as an expert as some on here tend to do.
I tend to give those playing, coaching and administering the benefit of the doubt that they actually do know more about the situation than I do.
Therfore I don't go into tirades about how they don't know what they're doing etc etc.
And that's the point I was trying to make about showing respect to those that have achieved.
You seem to raise it as an issue when it suits you, but ignore the same issue when it doesn't suit your pov.
Simple really,
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Come on man.BigMart wrote:The reality is, and we all know it.....zac had no good reason for his comments.....they have not given him any more respect, and certainly wont worry a guy who's standing in footy is well established....
The reality is, we're talking about the footy.
Walls is entitled to hang s*** on Zac, and most certainly Zac is entitled to hang s*** back on him.
It's the footy. Not the UN.
We're talking about an entertainment business here. Why do people take this game so seriously when it comes to this sort of thing?
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A dude like Ross Lyon will be all over him I'd reckon.SainterK wrote:Reality is the majority of posters don't care, but I'm not sure he'll be let off the hook that easily from the coaching staff.
But he needs to relax man.
Really, who was the last coach out there that didn't make the odd controversial public statement that ruffled feathers?
I can't remember one at all.
This 'be mega serious about footy' thing is overrated.
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Not sure that's why Lyon will be all over him. I reckon it's b/c it's not so much the saints but Zac himself who has now placed himself under the microscope. I can See Walls sitting back smirking and saying 'fair enough, good on the young man for having a crack, now let's see how he performs.' And he'd want to perform after those comments I reckon, b/c everyone will be watching.Johnny Member wrote:A dude like Ross Lyon will be all over him I'd reckon.SainterK wrote:Reality is the majority of posters don't care, but I'm not sure he'll be let off the hook that easily from the coaching staff.
But he needs to relax man.
Really, who was the last coach out there that didn't make the odd controversial public statement that ruffled feathers?
I can't remember one at all.
This 'be mega serious about footy' thing is overrated.
I was never a huge wrap for Jason Akermanis, but one thing I always admired about him was that he was prepared to talk the talk and then walk the walk. Same goes for Glenn McGrath. Zac HAS to do this now otherwise he will look pretty stupid imo.
Like I said earlier - could be the making of the young man or.........
Dunno about that, Ross may think Walls is a c##t as wellJohnny Member wrote:A dude like Ross Lyon will be all over him I'd reckon.
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I predict that he will perform and hopefully drag a few of his mates up with him.Moods wrote: Zac himself who has now placed himself under the microscope. I can See Walls sitting back smirking and saying 'fair enough, good on the young man for having a crack, now let's see how he performs.' And he'd want to perform after those comments I reckon, b/c everyone will be watching
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Well if he does it's a masterstroke. Zac playing mind games and winningbigcarl wrote:I predict that he will perform and hopefully drag a few of his mates up with him.Moods wrote: Zac himself who has now placed himself under the microscope. I can See Walls sitting back smirking and saying 'fair enough, good on the young man for having a crack, now let's see how he performs.' And he'd want to perform after those comments I reckon, b/c everyone will be watching
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May well do so.bigcarl wrote:I predict that he will perform and hopefully drag a few of his mates up with him.Moods wrote: Zac himself who has now placed himself under the microscope. I can See Walls sitting back smirking and saying 'fair enough, good on the young man for having a crack, now let's see how he performs.' And he'd want to perform after those comments I reckon, b/c everyone will be watching
But I don't see why Zac tweeting about Walls losing his job, calling him a sourpuss and saying karma's a bitch means he's now gotta perform. Realistically Zac could tweet that and retire at the end of the year and go backpacking.
Now if his tweet had've said "Robert Walls you are a d**khead, I'm really the best full back in the league" that would've been different.
But he didn't.
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He'll be fair game for Walls and a few of his cronies if he doesn't. They won't forget.Dr Spaceman wrote:May well do so.bigcarl wrote:I predict that he will perform and hopefully drag a few of his mates up with him.Moods wrote: Zac himself who has now placed himself under the microscope. I can See Walls sitting back smirking and saying 'fair enough, good on the young man for having a crack, now let's see how he performs.' And he'd want to perform after those comments I reckon, b/c everyone will be watching
But I don't see why Zac tweeting about Walls losing his job, calling him a sourpuss and saying karma's a bitch means he's now gotta perform. Realistically Zac could tweet that and retire at the end of the year and go backpacking.
Now if his tweet had've said "Robert Walls you are a d**khead, I'm really the best full back in the league" that would've been different.
But he didn't.
Thats hilarious magic......as long as you think everything you do is great...and never mis-represent yourself......thats ok.
I guess you never pretend to know stuff about things, of which you are not accutely aware....never
From my point of view, i often put myself out there with strong comments at times....those comments can be held accountable at any time
I have been critical of
Recruiting, selection, tactics, effort.....at different times....And with the benefit of hindsight, sometimes I get proven right, other times not.....
One thing i will say
Our club deserves more critisism than praise for its historical performance.
That i am certain...
On Zac
You have more things to worry about than Robert Walls.......one of them is now Ross Lyon....the other is putting your money where your mouth is....added pressure I am not sure you need, considering the fact that full backs are often on a hiding to nothing....wallsy has nothing to lose, or prove.....you still do......you are not quite max hudghton yet
I guess you never pretend to know stuff about things, of which you are not accutely aware....never
From my point of view, i often put myself out there with strong comments at times....those comments can be held accountable at any time
I have been critical of
Recruiting, selection, tactics, effort.....at different times....And with the benefit of hindsight, sometimes I get proven right, other times not.....
One thing i will say
Our club deserves more critisism than praise for its historical performance.
That i am certain...
On Zac
You have more things to worry about than Robert Walls.......one of them is now Ross Lyon....the other is putting your money where your mouth is....added pressure I am not sure you need, considering the fact that full backs are often on a hiding to nothing....wallsy has nothing to lose, or prove.....you still do......you are not quite max hudghton yet
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That's what I reckon too.Dr Spaceman wrote:May well do so.bigcarl wrote:I predict that he will perform and hopefully drag a few of his mates up with him.Moods wrote: Zac himself who has now placed himself under the microscope. I can See Walls sitting back smirking and saying 'fair enough, good on the young man for having a crack, now let's see how he performs.' And he'd want to perform after those comments I reckon, b/c everyone will be watching
But I don't see why Zac tweeting about Walls losing his job, calling him a sourpuss and saying karma's a bitch means he's now gotta perform. Realistically Zac could tweet that and retire at the end of the year and go backpacking.
Now if his tweet had've said "Robert Walls you are a d**khead, I'm really the best full back in the league" that would've been different.
But he didn't.
I can't see the problem to be honest.