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Reincarnated asks to lose the sentiment. Who cares if he has 'character' and he is not loyal he has done what around 97% of players have done and stayed at their orginal club until 25/26STILLWAITING wrote:Keep Ball, as you say he has charcter and loyalty, donw want kerrrexy wrote:Didnt read the whole thread but I have 1 word for you all
CHARACHTER
Ball is a beauty, Kerr is trouble IMO.
Both good footballers, Ball is a saint and will be rememberd as a great one.
Not sure about defining character, I'll leave that to those who know Luke personally.reincarnated wrote:Reincarnated asks to lose the sentiment. Who cares if he has 'character' and he is not loyal he has done what around 97% of players have done and stayed at their orginal club until 25/26STILLWAITING wrote:Keep Ball, as you say he has charcter and loyalty, donw want kerrrexy wrote:Didnt read the whole thread but I have 1 word for you all
CHARACHTER
Ball is a beauty, Kerr is trouble IMO.
Both good footballers, Ball is a saint and will be rememberd as a great one.
Define 'character'?
Character is that which Buckley had none of.reincarnated wrote:Reincarnated asks to lose the sentiment. Who cares if he has 'character' and he is not loyal he has done what around 97% of players have done and stayed at their orginal club until 25/26
Define 'character'?
Put the link upst_Trav_ofWA wrote:herald sun have just said a similar thing ... more a jorno story then any truth to it ... list management will be looked into after the season not round 20 .... maybe west coast are interested in this trade but i highly doubt any one at the saints is talking to the eagles at this time of the year ...... BIGGER FISH TO FRY...
Reincarnated puts forward you still haven't defined character. Buckley didn't want to be there and make it public - what does that have to do with his character? If Brisbane/Collingwood swapped histories you would have been saying Buckley made the right choice yadda yadda yadda. But its easy to have an uneducated go at a guy for actually having the ability to go somewhere in his career that was his choice, probably something you have never had the opportunity to doace wrote:Character is that which Buckley had none of.reincarnated wrote:Reincarnated asks to lose the sentiment. Who cares if he has 'character' and he is not loyal he has done what around 97% of players have done and stayed at their orginal club until 25/26
Define 'character'?
Walked out on Brisbane after one year claiming Collingwood hadn't done anything to undermine the draft.
Ha, Ha, he could have been the captain ahead of Voss and gone back to back to back.
Ended up with nothing because he had no character.
I'm really not sure about this "PWC" rubbish, really makes no sense in terms of defining one's character or worth but...reincarnated wrote:Reincarnated puts forward you still haven't defined character. Buckley didn't want to be there and make it public - what does that have to do with his character? If Brisbane/Collingwood swapped histories you would have been saying Buckley made the right choice yadda yadda yadda. But its easy to have an uneducated go at a guy for actually having the ability to go somewhere in his career that was his choice, probably something you have never had the opportunity to doace wrote:Character is that which Buckley had none of.reincarnated wrote:Reincarnated asks to lose the sentiment. Who cares if he has 'character' and he is not loyal he has done what around 97% of players have done and stayed at their orginal club until 25/26
Define 'character'?
Walked out on Brisbane after one year claiming Collingwood hadn't done anything to undermine the draft.
Ha, Ha, he could have been the captain ahead of Voss and gone back to back to back.
Ended up with nothing because he had no character.
Premiership success, Michael Voss and being captain have nothing to do with character, that is choice and luck
Think of it this way
If you wanted to work for PWC however all you could get as a job as a mobile tax consultant however after a year you would be allowed to gain employment in PWC...in your opinion a much better job with higher wages and a better chance of greater success...would you take it?
Buckley made choices and its naive, boganistic and dumb for you to criticise Buckley for 'character' of decisions he made when he believed at the time were correct
But its okay to criticise a successful human being with the ability of hindsight right?
Buckley saw the pies as a better organisation and he believed he would achieve greater success. Much like going from a mobile tax consultancy role to a accounting partner at a firm - of course its a much better job and one sees this so at the timeGhost Like wrote:I'm really not sure about this "PWC" rubbish, really makes no sense in terms of defining one's character or worth but...reincarnated wrote:Reincarnated puts forward you still haven't defined character. Buckley didn't want to be there and make it public - what does that have to do with his character? If Brisbane/Collingwood swapped histories you would have been saying Buckley made the right choice yadda yadda yadda. But its easy to have an uneducated go at a guy for actually having the ability to go somewhere in his career that was his choice, probably something you have never had the opportunity to doace wrote:Character is that which Buckley had none of.reincarnated wrote:Reincarnated asks to lose the sentiment. Who cares if he has 'character' and he is not loyal he has done what around 97% of players have done and stayed at their orginal club until 25/26
Define 'character'?
Walked out on Brisbane after one year claiming Collingwood hadn't done anything to undermine the draft.
Ha, Ha, he could have been the captain ahead of Voss and gone back to back to back.
Ended up with nothing because he had no character.
Premiership success, Michael Voss and being captain have nothing to do with character, that is choice and luck
Think of it this way
If you wanted to work for PWC however all you could get as a job as a mobile tax consultant however after a year you would be allowed to gain employment in PWC...in your opinion a much better job with higher wages and a better chance of greater success...would you take it?
Buckley made choices and its naive, boganistic and dumb for you to criticise Buckley for 'character' of decisions he made when he believed at the time were correct
But its okay to criticise a successful human being with the ability of hindsight right?
If you need to ask who has the better character between Luke Ball and Daniel Kerr then I suggest your lacking in some.
Luke Ball is the definition of the character I'd want at my club or business, Daniel Kerr is not.
We can talk about football ability and what they both give to their sides on their respective best days, unencumbered by injuries and taggers and it would still be a close call so I can only go on who would be best, as a person for the club, and that would be Luke Ball by a mile.
Well said (andIdont have to spell any difficult words or talk in the third person for this post)ace wrote:Character is that which Buckley had none of.reincarnated wrote:Reincarnated asks to lose the sentiment. Who cares if he has 'character' and he is not loyal he has done what around 97% of players have done and stayed at their orginal club until 25/26
Define 'character'?
Walked out on Brisbane after one year claiming Collingwood hadn't done anything to undermine the draft.
Ha, Ha, he could have been the captain ahead of Voss and gone back to back to back.
Ended up with nothing because he had no character.
Or was Buckley already taking money from a draft tampering Collingwood supporter group before he even went to Brisbane.reincarnated wrote:Buckley saw the pies as a better organisation and he believed he would achieve greater success. Much like going from a mobile tax consultancy role to a accounting partner at a firm - of course its a much better job and one sees this so at the timeGhost Like wrote:I'm really not sure about this "PWC" rubbish, really makes no sense in terms of defining one's character or worth but...reincarnated wrote:Reincarnated puts forward you still haven't defined character. Buckley didn't want to be there and make it public - what does that have to do with his character? If Brisbane/Collingwood swapped histories you would have been saying Buckley made the right choice yadda yadda yadda. But its easy to have an uneducated go at a guy for actually having the ability to go somewhere in his career that was his choice, probably something you have never had the opportunity to doace wrote:Character is that which Buckley had none of.reincarnated wrote:Reincarnated asks to lose the sentiment. Who cares if he has 'character' and he is not loyal he has done what around 97% of players have done and stayed at their orginal club until 25/26
Define 'character'?
Walked out on Brisbane after one year claiming Collingwood hadn't done anything to undermine the draft.
Ha, Ha, he could have been the captain ahead of Voss and gone back to back to back.
Ended up with nothing because he had no character.
Premiership success, Michael Voss and being captain have nothing to do with character, that is choice and luck
Think of it this way
If you wanted to work for PWC however all you could get as a job as a mobile tax consultant however after a year you would be allowed to gain employment in PWC...in your opinion a much better job with higher wages and a better chance of greater success...would you take it?
Buckley made choices and its naive, boganistic and dumb for you to criticise Buckley for 'character' of decisions he made when he believed at the time were correct
But its okay to criticise a successful human being with the ability of hindsight right?
If you need to ask who has the better character between Luke Ball and Daniel Kerr then I suggest your lacking in some.
Luke Ball is the definition of the character I'd want at my club or business, Daniel Kerr is not.
We can talk about football ability and what they both give to their sides on their respective best days, unencumbered by injuries and taggers and it would still be a close call so I can only go on who would be best, as a person for the club, and that would be Luke Ball by a mile.
However its great to criticise those with the ability of hindsight?
Why didn't we take Judd instead of Ball hindsight yadda yadda yadda I'm clever as i criticise people for making decisions
Ace you are so right,he was dealing with collingwood before he even played forbrissi, in fact he even had an aggreement frombrissi torealease him after a year,what character is thatace wrote:Or was it that Buckley was already taking money from a draft tampering Collingwood supporter group before he even went to Brisbane.reincarnated wrote:Buckley saw the pies as a better organisation and he believed he would achieve greater success. Much like going from a mobile tax consultancy role to a accounting partner at a firm - of course its a much better job and one sees this so at the timeGhost Like wrote:I'm really not sure about this "PWC" rubbish, really makes no sense in terms of defining one's character or worth but...reincarnated wrote:Reincarnated puts forward you still haven't defined character. Buckley didn't want to be there and make it public - what does that have to do with his character? If Brisbane/Collingwood swapped histories you would have been saying Buckley made the right choice yadda yadda yadda. But its easy to have an uneducated go at a guy for actually having the ability to go somewhere in his career that was his choice, probably something you have never had the opportunity to doace wrote:Character is that which Buckley had none of.reincarnated wrote:Reincarnated asks to lose the sentiment. Who cares if he has 'character' and he is not loyal he has done what around 97% of players have done and stayed at their orginal club until 25/26
Define 'character'?
Walked out on Brisbane after one year claiming Collingwood hadn't done anything to undermine the draft.
Ha, Ha, he could have been the captain ahead of Voss and gone back to back to back.
Ended up with nothing because he had no character.
Premiership success, Michael Voss and being captain have nothing to do with character, that is choice and luck
Think of it this way
If you wanted to work for PWC however all you could get as a job as a mobile tax consultant however after a year you would be allowed to gain employment in PWC...in your opinion a much better job with higher wages and a better chance of greater success...would you take it?
Buckley made choices and its naive, boganistic and dumb for you to criticise Buckley for 'character' of decisions he made when he believed at the time were correct
But its okay to criticise a successful human being with the ability of hindsight right?
If you need to ask who has the better character between Luke Ball and Daniel Kerr then I suggest your lacking in some.
Luke Ball is the definition of the character I'd want at my club or business, Daniel Kerr is not.
We can talk about football ability and what they both give to their sides on their respective best days, unencumbered by injuries and taggers and it would still be a close call so I can only go on who would be best, as a person for the club, and that would be Luke Ball by a mile.
However its great to criticise those with the ability of hindsight?
Why didn't we take Judd instead of Ball hindsight yadda yadda yadda I'm clever as i criticise people for making decisions
Reincarnated agrees as our pick will be mid teens with Luke Ball...hardly the greatest trade. If we could get a high first round pick for Luke plus our other Ross and Matty said they would do the tradevillasaint wrote:really don't think the saints would be in the running for Kerr. He is an excellent footballer but his off the field record has been terrible. Bally has been going through a rough trot on the field but is exemplary. I know that in the end football ability is what really counts but I find this trade highly unlikely. Would the saints risk taking someone like that for a former best and fairest winner and a true star off the field? I think not. Bally will turn things around. Gauranteed
Maybe it was the third person trying to speak in the reincarnatedIceman234 wrote:Quite humorous actually, if you look back to the beginning of reinc, you'll see it took a while to establish this wonderfully hilarious act of speaking of itself in the third person...matrixcutter wrote:heheheh
did i see reincarnated post NOT in the third entity somewhere around here earlier??!!
Being the Reincarnated one is tough work at times but someone has to do itIceman234 wrote:Quite humorous actually, if you look back to the beginning of reinc, you'll see it took a while to establish this wonderfully hilarious act of speaking of itself in the third person...matrixcutter wrote:heheheh
did i see reincarnated post NOT in the third entity somewhere around here earlier??!!
