Armitage breaks collar bone

[Stephen Theodore]

Must be the quickest healing broken collarbone of all time !!!!!

[saintly]

Injury list as of Thursday June 25th, 2009:


Jarryd Allen - Torn hip muscle, indefinite
David Armitage - Shoulder, (available)
Xavier Clarke - ACL, indefinite
Leigh Fisher - Hamstring, 2 weeks

now that was the quickest 2 weeks i have ever encountered!

by the way what happened in the richmond and geelong game

did we win both?

[CeilidhSaint]

Saintly, yep, two more wins. Still haven't beaten anyone good though.
Armo's shoulder was sore and he is right to go, L Fisher tweaked his string in the last 5 mins of Box Hill game, def out this week but could be OK for next.

[DWOODROW]

ha yes I'm the d**khead. There is a story behing it and quite a lengthy one. But seeing as I rate highly on the BS meter I think I will keep it to myself. In fact I now know to keep any info I get on players to myself thanks to a few phone calls. I look forawrd to seeing David back soon, but not too soon.

[saintly]

ha yes I'm the d**khead. There is a story behing it and quite a lengthy one. But seeing as I rate highly on the BS meter I think I will keep it to myself. In fact I now know to keep any info I get on players to myself thanks to a few phone calls. I look forawrd to seeing David back soon, but not too soon.

a few phone calls from who?

[claystreet]

I had a few phone calls myself today
and i can tell you from my source within the club that roo has a bone in his leg

Believe it coz i said so



Wooduck your FOS

[DWOODROW]

I had a few phone calls myself today
and i can tell you from my source within the club that roo has a bone in his leg

Believe it coz i said so



Wooduck your FOS

That's pretty good. Keep em coming

[plugger66]

I had a few phone calls myself today
and i can tell you from my source within the club that roo has a bone in his leg

Believe it coz i said so



Wooduck your FOS

That's pretty good. Keep em coming

Is it true when they took the first X Ray they found an old break and thought it was broken but an x ray a day later found that there was no break at all.

[Thinline]

Woodrow, you take the time to come on here to admire your own handiwork so I reckon you have the time to explain yourself. If you don't, you'll continue to look like a prize tool who can't be taken seriously.

[DWOODROW]

Plugger66. Not sure who you found out that from but it is true. I look like a tool whatever I say on this site anyway for thwe fact he has been named this week. The information I recieved I posted straight away before everything had been examined. Now this is the last post I will say about this. I'm already getting reamed. Plugger. Bang on 100%. NO BS

[jonesy]

I love how there's always jealousy towards a poster who claims to have some inside info. They're always shot down by the masses on here and given less respect than a usual poster. They're accused of muckraking etc, all because the other posters are jealous as they don't know a saint.

[DWOODROW]

Mate I look like a spastic after saying something that was later cleared as being old. I don't blame anyone for the crap I get.

[st.byron]

Woodrow, you take the time to come on here to admire your own handiwork so I reckon you have the time to explain yourself. If you don't, you'll continue to look like a prize tool who can't be taken seriously.

In his defence he's not taking himself too seriously. In fact he seems happy to have the piss taken out of him. Lighten up.

[Armoooo]

Yeah I think a lot of the comments have been out of line personally, I have no reason to doubt his source, he was good enough to come out and inform us of something we may have never found out alternatively.

The guy made an honest mistake and we have hung him out to dry, the club obviously thought that something was up if they would put him on the injury list for two weeks...

[claystreet]

I love how there's always jealousy towards a poster who claims to have some inside info. They're always shot down by the masses on here and given less respect than a usual poster. They're accused of muckraking etc, all because the other posters are jealous as they don't know a saint.

I know quite a few so where's your logic now

[Thinline]

Lighten up.

Never.

I like to keep it dark and malicious.

Vindictive is my middle name.

Nah... I'm light as a feather my good man. Just didn't think the kid was doing himself any favours by keeping the lid on the actual tale.

I'm just glad Armo ain't hurt.

As for not knowing Saints, Jonesy... Well, I find it equally weird that some people (including some on here) seem to think life ends because they 'spoke to Gilbo the other day' or 'bumped into Len Hayes at the Pennant Hills Hotel and he seemed like a great bloke'. Borderline stalking behaviour IMO. Completely freaky. Even moreso (this is not directed at Woodrow BTW) when they allege inside knowledge as a result of the fac t that 'they had a couple of cleansers with Michael Rix, champion bloke as it happens' when its plain as day they don't know their ars es from their elbows about sweet FA.

[claystreet]

And then there's those that dont say anything because big deal they know this person or that person a little more than might be expected.

Dont put your mouth into action until you put your brain into gear. DOnt boost your ego by thinking everyones going to think your god because alledgedly you had contact with a player.

Nothing personal against the original OP but sometimes you definately gotta watch what you say about what, whom and when.

[joffaboy]

Mate I look like a spastic after saying something that was later cleared as being old. I don't blame anyone for the crap I get.

Too bad, you had a go, and happily it turned out not to be the whole story.

Dont sweat it. No biggie.

[SainterK]

Mate I look like a spastic after saying something that was later cleared as being old. I don't blame anyone for the crap I get.

Seriously don't care if you were right and wrong, your intention was to share info on a forum where people may be interested....but please don't use the word "spastic" in a derogative sense.

[Armoooo]

Interesting points re. meeting footy players.

I have a general rule of thumb, I actually think I might have stolen it off someone on this site now that I think of it

Unless a player is wearing St Kilda clothing, whether it be training gear or a media polo I will not disturb them.

For example I saw Xavier Clarke on the train a few weeks ago (either him or someone who looks identical to him) and I considered asking him how the knee is going but he wasn't representing the club at that point in time and I felt it would be an intrusion of his personal life.

[meher baba]

This thread raises some interesting issues for mine.

If DWOODROW is - as he claims - a close relative/friend of Armitage's (such that he gets text messages from him), then has Armitage given him permission to spill his guts on here about Armitage's current injury status, how he is feeling about his chances of being selected, etc., etc?

If he doesn't have this express permission - and I doubt that he does - then he might do very well to STFU big time, for a number of reasons:

1. Because a player's injury status, to the extent that it has been publicly announced by him or the club, is private health information and it is illegal for anyone to publicise it.
2. Because employees from opposition teams trawl through here and could discover a potential weakness that could be targeted by our opponents.
3. A player's personal understanding of whether or not they are going to be selected this week (which might have been communicated in confidence to them by the coach), might imply that another player (who might not yet have been told) is going to be dropped.

It is factors like these which lead some of the other posters on here who personally know players or have inside sources at the club to be very guarded about what they post on here, and make sure that they don't give away too much.

DWOODROW, I suspect that you are a pretty young bloke. I don't believe you are a troll, I do believe that you are close to Armo in some way. If so, I strongly suggest that next time you feel like rushing to SS posting some sort of private tidbit he gives you, you should take a deep breath and think carefully about whether he would feel that you are doing him a favour.

This time you ended up making yourself look like a bit of a fool. You've taken that with good grace which shows a fair bit of maturity.

But I really think you should be a bit careful about what you post. When in doubt, check it out with Armo himself, eh?

[Thinline]

Wasn't Meher Baba that Indian dude who didn't speak?

If so, MB, your consistent verbosity (no offence, just noted that you don't mind lengthy post) is highly ironical...

Or is that the point?

[DWOODROW]

This thread raises some interesting issues for mine.

If DWOODROW is - as he claims - a close relative/friend of Armitage's (such that he gets text messages from him), then has Armitage given him permission to spill his guts on here about Armitage's current injury status, how he is feeling about his chances of being selected, etc., etc?

If he doesn't have this express permission - and I doubt that he does - then he might do very well to STFU big time, for a number of reasons:

1. Because a player's injury status, to the extent that it has been publicly announced by him or the club, is private health information and it is illegal for anyone to publicise it.
2. Because employees from opposition teams trawl through here and could discover a potential weakness that could be targeted by our opponents.
3. A player's personal understanding of whether or not they are going to be selected this week (which might have been communicated in confidence to them by the coach), might imply that another player (who might not yet have been told) is going to be dropped.

It is factors like these which lead some of the other posters on here who personally know players or have inside sources at the club to be very guarded about what they post on here, and make sure that they don't give away too much.

DWOODROW, I suspect that you are a pretty young bloke. I don't believe you are a troll, I do believe that you are close to Armo in some way. If so, I strongly suggest that next time you feel like rushing to SS posting some sort of private tidbit he gives you, you should take a deep breath and think carefully about whether he would feel that you are doing him a favour.

This time you ended up making yourself look like a bit of a fool. You've taken that with good grace which shows a fair bit of maturity.

But I really think you should be a bit careful about what you post. When in doubt, check it out with Armo himself, eh?

I wouldn't class 29 as young but I agree with what you are saying. i'm quite new to the whole having information and keeping it to myself thing so I think it is in the club's and more so Dave;s best interst in keeping what I know to myself from now on. Honestly I didn;t realise it was going to cause such a fuss and if it had turned out true/ more serios than first diagnosed then I probably wouldn't be getting the ribbings or feeling like a spas( No offence intended.) then I already do. I will try and keep it in line in future. As I said I am quite happy to recieve ribbing being that what I portrayed as being fact was in fact too early to call but I have learnt from my lesson and will in future think before I give my input. Anyway thankyou for keeping me honest. Too all posters no matter what your opinion is.

[saintsRrising]

But I really think you should be a bit careful about what you post. , eh?

Yes very good advice to not post as fact what is not.

Yes you would not want to be like that poster that posted repeated posts of how Walls "gave' Lyon the job.

When in fact it was Sheldon who first suggested Lyon, and Ross Smith who chaired the selection committee.

[kp83]

Just as a point of interest, what is all the taping of the shoulder supposed to do? Provide some kind of stability or prevention against should separation? An explanation would be welcome.

A major problem when you do a knee or a shoulder for the first time is your hyper extend the muscle and it leaves it stretched too far and leaves you prone to doing it again.

Taping does the same job as the ligaments do in keeping the joint in place.

I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but that's not a very accurate answer. I don't know what you mean by "hyperextend the muscle" as that makes no medical sense. Also in regards to your 2nd comment, a piece of tape does not do "the same job" as a ligament as there is no way a piece of tape on the skin can stabalise a joint as well as a strong ligament inside the actual joint.

The 3 major reasons for taping are:

1. Every time you move a joint that has tape on it, that tape will pull on the skin underneath it. This pulling sensation sends a message to your brain, which in turn sends a message back to the muscles of that joint, telling them to activate to help stabalise the joint. The term for this is "proprioceptive feedback."

2. Tape can also be used to restrict certain movements that may be causing pain or may lead to a potential injury. eg taping across the front of the shoulder can help restrict the shoulder from being outwardly rotated too far, which is a less stable position for the shoulder to be in. You will see this in a lot of players who have "loose" shoulder joints that are prone to subluxing or dislocating.

3. Placebo. Psychology plays a big role with some players and they feel more comfortable with tape on after an injury. The best example for us would be Rooey after he broke his collarbone. Realistically, taping the shoulder after a broken collarbone has absolutely no beneficial purposes, but I bet Rooey said he wanted something on there and the physios obliged purely because they knew it was important for Rooey to go out and trust that his shoulder would stand up to contact. As we know he probably went overboard with this and ended up looking like a mummy, which probably hampered him in the end.

Again, sorry if correcting you has offended you Armooo, but I thought a more medical answer would be more appropriate.

Cheers.