Casey scores- 11/5- Club report Pg 5 + photos

[saintsRrising]

Sr .... this is why your posts should not be trusted.

We had a bye this week so everyone could watch Casey which they did and that is great.

How many times during the previous coaching group's time was there a bye so they could do the same?

It really is time you moved on and balanced out.

There is bye every year of late.

Also there are games where matches where the Seniors and Casey do not coincide.

Reports show that the senior coaches now attend games when they can.

Reports in the previous regime had them not attending.

IMO..you have not moved on.

The fact that the coaches now attend when they can is great to see and an enhancement.

Many on this forum take every opportunity to bag Lyon...so what is wrong with my acknowledging where he has improved things???

[stinger]

funny ...i often ran into saints coaches at scorpion games.........seems i was seeing things.........remind me to stay off the weed in future......

[LENNY LEADS THE WAY]

funny ...i often ran into saints coaches at scorpion games.........seems i was seeing things.........remind me to stay off the weed in future......

mate the canteen would close down if u was off the weed and we can't have that so keep fighting the good fight

[saintsRrising]

funny ...i often ran into saints coaches at scorpion games.........seems i was seeing things.........remind me to stay off the weed in future......

Well I may be wrong then, or at least the reports that I read...but the reports were that GT did not attend Casey games.
Still if you saw him there in his last couple of years then you did.

[Snakeman66]

Armitage and Raph didn't play so could one assume they will be ins for next week- along with blake who was rested?

Raph played against the tiggers. He was a late inclusion for Max.

Armo also played against the tiggers.

[Shaggy]

funny ...i often ran into saints coaches at scorpion games.........seems i was seeing things.........remind me to stay off the weed in future......

Well I may be wrong then, or at least the reports that I read...but the reports were that GT did not attend Casey games.
Still if you saw him there in his last couple of years then you did.

B4 ran this furthy in 2006 and I sat down and posted the analysis that in the 8 games GT disgustingly did not attend the Scorpion games (according to B4) we either had interstate games (including Tas games) the day before/ same day/ or day after or we clashed same afternoon in Melbourne.

I would hope all our coaching staff would attend todays match and they did. I would expect all AFL coaches and assistants to do the same. So why bring up GT (previous administration). Its irrelevant.

[Sainterman]

A Casey thread has managed to become a GT thread...??!!

[Shaggy]

Sorry.

It is a great win.

It shows that we really do have depth.

Its the first time for a long time either the Saints or Casey have given a belting.

Its a great sign for the future and who can't be rapt with Stevens or Ferg who obviously blitzed. I'm stoked.

[LENNY LEADS THE WAY]

I can't be stuffed looking it up can some1 tell me where the pissants sorry i mean bullants are on the table are they a bottom 4 team who always get pumped?

[St Fidelius]

I have mentioned about Fergs for about 3 years and have stated that he can play tall or small can play down back or up forward, but the responses I got in return was that ....

Fergs is lucky to be on our list....

over the past three years he has been mentioned (on this site) as a player likely to be dropped....

and a couple of posts directly blaming him for a loss last year....

Some on here really don't have a clue IMO

Fergs has talent, but has been unlucky with injuries at the wrong time...

Down back he plays a very good defensive game and can play on tall or the smalls.

Up forward it seems that he could be a hard person to match up against

I just hope he gets his chance and prove some doubters on here that he has the talent to play at the top level.

[The Peanut]

VFL Seniors Ladder 2008
POS TEAM P W L D B FF For Ag PC Pts
1 North Ballarat 6 5 1 0 0 0 674 490 137.55 20
2 Williamstown 6 5 1 0 0 0 775 565 137.17 20
3 Casey Scorpions 6 4 2 0 0 0 703 529 132.89 16
4 Geelong 6 4 2 0 0 0 683 627 108.93 16
5 Sandringham 6 3 3 0 0 0 706 588 120.07 12
6 Coburg Tigers 6 3 3 0 0 0 680 592 114.86 12
7 Port Melbourne 6 3 3 0 0 0 661 619 106.79 12
8 Tasmania 6 3 3 0 0 0 554 596 92.95 12

9 Werribee Tigers 6 3 3 0 0 0 587 674 87.09 12
10 Northern Bullants 6 3 3 0 0 0 533 619 86.11 12
11 Frankston 6 2 4 0 0 0 485 573 84.64 8
12 Bendigo Bombers 6 2 4 0 0 0 538 689 78.08 8
13 Collingwood 6 2 4 0 0 0 493 691 71.35 8
14 Box Hill Hawks 6 0 6 0 0 0 463 683 67.79 0



VFL Reserves Ladder 2008
Pos Played Won Lost Draw Bye Forfeit For Against Percentage Points
1 Coburg Tigers 4 4 0 0 1 0 559 256 218.36 16
2 Williamstown 4 4 0 0 1 0 596 318 187.42 16
3 Sandringham 5 4 1 0 0 0 645 450 143.33 16
4 Frankston 4 3 1 0 1 0 461 354 130.23 12
5 North Ballarat 5 2 3 0 0 0 541 496 109.07 8

6 Northern Bullants 4 2 2 0 1 0 346 394 87.82 8
7 Box Hill Hawks 4 2 2 0 1 0 356 447 79.64 8
8 Casey Scorpions 4 1 3 0 1 0 390 415 93.98 4
9 Werribee Tigers 4 1 3 0 1 0 316 414 76.33 4
10 Port Melbourne 5 1 4 0 0 0 345 676 51.04 4
11 Bendigo Bombers 5 0 5 0 0 0 331 666 49.70 0

[LENNY LEADS THE WAY]

thanks peanut ur a gentleman

[bobmurray]

I'd like to see Ferg in the team against Collingwood and played in the FORWARD line.He is very competitive.It's the best i've seen him play,hope he can string a few good ones together,in the ones.....

[saintsRrising]

. So why bring up GT (previous administration). Its irrelevant.

The point is that we are developing our St Kilda players who play at Casey more....we now havea good working relationship.

Importanty we also see it as a valuable tool in developing our players.


Lyon has been a key in improving what was a sub-standard relationship with Casey.

IMO we in the past developed our young talent very poorly...including our use of Casey.

This has now been turned around and I see this as an enhancement.


http://www.starnewsgroup.com.au/story/43866

Back-biting over, say Scorpions

THE strained relationship between Victorian Football League and Australian Football League clubs is nearing crisis point, and the Casey Scorpions are not immune to the tension.


It is also common knowledge that Casey’s affiliation with St Kilda, which began in 2001, suffered under former Saints coach Grant Thomas.

Current St Kilda coach Ross Lyon refused to comment on the partnership when contacted by the News, after the tumultuous week his club has endured.

But Scorpions coach Peter Banfield defended the union, and believes the bond between the two teams has improved markedly this year.

“Grant had a different philosophy on how players should play in (the VFL) competition,â€

[saintsRrising]

I have mentioned about Fergs for about 3 years and have stated that he can play tall or small can play down back or up forward, but the responses I got in return was that ....

.

Yes you have indeed been a great supporter of his...as was St Mart (Big Mart?)

It is good to see him stringing some good games together.

It is also good to see him getting some games up forward..which is where I believe his early football was.

[plugger66]

I have mentioned about Fergs for about 3 years and have stated that he can play tall or small can play down back or up forward, but the responses I got in return was that ....

.

Yes you have indeed been a great supporter of his...as was St Mart (Big Mart?)

It is good to see him stringing some good games together.

It is also good to see him getting some games up forward..which is where I believe his early football was.

I was one who said he hasnt played forward for 5 years so he cannot in the seniors. He has this week and did great so hopefully in a higher comp, and he will obvouisly will this week, he will do a good job as he has tried so hard to come back from numerious injuries and he is a good guy but lets remember the seconds is called that for a reason.

[saintsRrising]

A question With Ferg's goals ....were they mainly set shots from marks.

Or did he geta few from on the run as well?

I ask because "running" goals would make him more likely to be suitable for playing HFF in the seniors.

[bobmurray]

Fergs goals were mainly set shots from marks,contested marks mostly .

The only Saints coach i saw today was Barker,the others might have been there but i didn't see them...

Barker is the forward line coach,i wonder what he thought of Ferguson today.

[Shaggy]

. So why bring up GT (previous administration). Its irrelevant.

The point is that we are developing our St Kilda players who play at Casey more....we now havea good working relationship.

Importanty we also see it as a valuable tool in developing our players.


Lyon has been a key in improving what was a sub-standard relationship with Casey.

IMO we in the past developed our young talent very poorly...including our use of Casey.

This has now been turned around and I see this as an enhancement.


http://www.starnewsgroup.com.au/story/43866

Back-biting over, say Scorpions

THE strained relationship between Victorian Football League and Australian Football League clubs is nearing crisis point, and the Casey Scorpions are not immune to the tension.


It is also common knowledge that Casey’s affiliation with St Kilda, which began in 2001, suffered under former Saints coach Grant Thomas.

Current St Kilda coach Ross Lyon refused to comment on the partnership when contacted by the News, after the tumultuous week his club has endured.

But Scorpions coach Peter Banfield defended the union, and believes the bond between the two teams has improved markedly this year.

“Grant had a different philosophy on how players should play in (the VFL) competition,â€

[saintsRrising]

Fergs goals were mainly set shots from marks,contested marks mostly .

.

Thanks.


So ....and this was only one game...but IMO he has shown similar tendencies and I have always thought of him as a player a bit like an earlier Saint in David Grant who is undersized and whose marking is key part of what he has to offer.

Ferg is 188 cm...so would be likely to struggle as a FF in the seniors...

He would seem to lack the running HFF skills.....so can he show enough to be our Scott Welsh (188) / Aaron Edwards (184) type of player??.

Hamill if you will was a bit like this too...though Hamill also had other strings to his bow with great offensive pressure and agression skills....and so did not have to rely on just his marking.




I think such a role represents his best chance of possibly making it in the seniors.

[WinnersOnly]

FERGUSSON may be our saviour! Or Greg HUTCHINSON for giving him the opportunity to show his wares up forward.

A goal kicking HFF who has great defensive pressure, can take a mark and is hard at it - is what we reallly lack. Charlie GARDINER has been good but hasn't really hurt the opposition on the score board. I would imagine he will take Riewoldt's lead up role while he is out.

Really FERGUSSON's can mark above his height and is fairly mobile and worthy at ground level. If he can step up into our forward line and put more pressure on GEHRIG etc it can only be good for the Saints.

[Shaggy]

Fergs goals were mainly set shots from marks,contested marks mostly .

.

Thanks.


So ....and this was only one game...but IMO he has shown similar tendencies and I have always thought of him as a player a bit like an earlier Saint in David Grant who is undersized and whose marking is key part of what he has to offer.

Ferg is 188 cm...so would be likely to struggle as a FF in the seniors...

Compared to Kosi Ferg is much closer to the ideal height of a FF.

But Ferg is no David Grant either. David Grant really was one of a kind.

[saintsRrising]

But Ferg is no David Grant either. David Grant really was one of a kind.

I am not saying he is the "new" David Grant...just that he is bit like him in terms of being a "type of player".

DG was a much better player.

[Dis Believer]

Ferg is also quite a capable running type.

Played on the ball in a Wizz Fizz cup match in Cairns or Darwin or somewhere a year or two back and racked up over 30 disposals in a game played in near monsoon conditions.

Given the conditions it was an acheivement not to get washed away but FErg did a good job and used the ball well.

NAB cup game I know, but still showed a lot of ability. I reckon he has exactly what we need in the role that CJ keeps getting a crack at (pressure forward).

[saintsRrising]

A goal kicking HFF who has great defensive pressure, .

Has Ferg shown to exert great defensive pressure when he is forward?

ie tackling and running down players.