Thomas to take Saints to court - The Age 30/1

[plugger66]

Attending the court case. You really make me laugh. If GT said boo to you , you would break the 100 metre world record.

But Mr Thomas wants us to believe that he is so meek and mild that he was co-erced by stand over man Butterss to sign a stat dec.

So which one is it plugger? The timid employee intimidated into signing a stat dec or the big tough he man Alpha male who, you would have us believe, physically attack barks4eva?

I actually only said he would say boo not attack the guy.

[plugger66]

Attending the court case. You really make me laugh. If GT said boo to you, you would break the 100 metre world record.

Goes to show how much you know, which is BTW, SFA, IMHO, FWIW, NN

Would happily tell Thomas what I thought of him to his face and would not hesitate to do so

and that's FAIR DINKUM

You are one tough man then arnt you. Luckily for me i havent run into you because you sound very scary.

[Saints Premiers 2008]

Attending the court case. You really make me laugh. If GT said boo to you, you would break the 100 metre world record.

Goes to show how much you know, which is BTW, SFA, IMHO, FWIW, NN

Would happily tell Thomas what I thought of him to his face and would not hesitate to do so

and that's FAIR DINKUM

You are one tough man then arnt you. Luckily for me i havent run into you because you sound very scary.

so can barks speak english???

imo,lols.esc.crtl.****.....what????

[stinger]

What's his member name? I'll send him a PM to ask about my contract!!

grant thomas.... ...where you been?????

[JeffDunne]

There's nothing quite like a GT thread to stir SS from it's slumber.

Some of you really spend too much time thinking and posting about a bloke and issue that will have zero impact on our chances for a successful and profitable season.

[TimeToShineFellas]

Attending the court case. You really make me laugh. If GT said boo to you, you would break the 100 metre world record.

Goes to show how much you know, which is BTW, SFA, IMHO, FWIW, NN

Would happily tell Thomas what I thought of him to his face and would not hesitate to do so

and that's FAIR DINKUM

last time you did..it ended in tears...for you......

by the way mods...thomas is a member of this forum.....i thought calling forum members was against the rules....do something about it.....

How about Grant Thomas logs in under his member's name and puts forward his case to us.........

Now that would be showing some form of putting your balls on the line and being a man wouldn't it!

I severely doubt he would though. I think he seriously lacks intestinal fortitude.

Not sure how (or why) you keep defending the indefensible, but that's people's right to do so....

Just wish the whole thing would be resolved.

[TimeToShineFellas]

Attending the court case. You really make me laugh. If GT said boo to you, you would break the 100 metre world record.

Goes to show how much you know, which is BTW, SFA, IMHO, FWIW, NN

Would happily tell Thomas what I thought of him to his face and would not hesitate to do so

and that's FAIR DINKUM

You are one tough man then arnt you. Luckily for me i havent run into you because you sound very scary.

plugger66 get some help, your stalking of barks is getting boring.......

It will get better for you if you admit it!

[Saints Premiers 2008]

Attending the court case. You really make me laugh. If GT said boo to you, you would break the 100 metre world record.

Goes to show how much you know, which is BTW, SFA, IMHO, FWIW, NN

Would happily tell Thomas what I thought of him to his face and would not hesitate to do so

and that's FAIR DINKUM

You are one tough man then arnt you. Luckily for me i havent run into you because you sound very scary.

plugger66 get some help, your stalking of barks is getting boring.......

It will get better for you if you admit it!

is that not a it extreme to accuse plugger of stalking just because he vehmently disagree's with b4e??? i think not

its not plugger's fault b4e posts crap that was old news this time last year

[evertonfc]

Question to stinger or any others in the legal fraternity..

Has a stat dec ever been found in court to be null and void cos it was "signed under pressure"??

I thought the whole point of getting them witnessed by a JP or similar (which is a joke really cso 1/2 the time the JP or pharmacist or whoever doesnt know you from a piece of soap) is to maek them watertight.

It's not quite the same, and it's not a stat dec, but...

In 2006, Jon Obi Mikel claimed he was 'pressured' into signing a contract with Man Utd, when he insisted he really wanted to play for Chelsea.

Chelsea appealed, there was an invesitgation, and it was pretty much proven that he was indeed forced to sign.

They paid Man Utd a certain fee as part of the deal, and Mikel became a Chelsea player.

It's a different set of circumstances (and a different country), but there may well be something a little grey when a party is 'pressured' to sign something, particuarly if there's an agreement (said to be proceeding the signature) which isn't followed through. That may well be what's happened here, I don't know.

[TimeToShineFellas]

is that not a it extreme to accuse plugger of stalking just because he vehmently disagree's with b4e??? i think not

its not plugger's fault b4e posts crap that was old news this time last year

It's a very common occurrance with him, SP2008

[barks4eva]

last time you did..it ended in tears...for you......

hardly, I wasn't intimidate in the slightest and besides you were not even there so you have no idea

but then you have SFA of an idea about most things, so that's not surprising

by the way mods...thomas is a member of this forum.....i thought calling forum members was against the rules....do something about it.....

I havn't called Thomas because I don't have his number and anyhow last time I checked calling another forum member wasn't against the rules?

and fwiw, if the slimy snake in the grass and machiavelian maestro wants to reveal himself, out from behind his usual cloak and dagger routine, then I'm more than happy to tell him what I think of him on here or face to face

still can't believe how many numbnuts are still conned by this svengali snake oil salesman, even when the evidence is as damning as it gets

AND that's as if you can't read Thomas like a book to begin with

and I do mean FAIR DINKUM

[Teflon]

If his original contract was not precise...why not???? Remember that GT was the one who sad he was expert in this area. It makes one shudder now for the contracts drawn up by GT for the players under his watch.

If his own contract was poorly worded and he had "expert' Knowledge in this area surely he should bare some of the responsibility for it's shortcomings. Or is this just now the "expert" at working seeking to exploit known by him "shortcomings"?

Name one contract that Thomas drew up?

What a stupid, stupid post.

Even for you.

Im just glad that you've seen the light and changed your derogative posting ways and all out attacks on other posters for having a view..... and that we now have SS mods armed with a fist full of rules to stamp out this type of posting....

Yest interesting times indeed.....

[Teflon]

Teflon is his own man

I believe it is still up for debate as to whether or not Teflon is infact a man at all.

Either way Im tipping you wouldnt be man enough to find out.....

[Teflon]

Melbourne County Court May 14 the article said... 250 William st... byo popcorn.

be there and outside the square

I can just picture it.

B4Eva and Rod Butterss sitting side by side holding hands in nervous, but excited anticipation. Ruck stats and loan contracts in their spare hands.

With Teflon, B4Eva's trusty and pathetic sidekick in the row behind them, hanging on every movement his heroes make. Watching B4Eva's every facial expression intensely. Just waiting to jump in and agree with him - whatever that may be that he agrees with. Doesn't matter - as long as he has a friend.

I gotta see this.

And let us all guess Dodg...your gonna be the man with the smoking gun who bangs down the door just before the verdict screaming...."I know someone at the club ........but I cant tell you who it is or what they said...........ah...carry on your worship...."

Might be worth a visit to see that.

[To the top]

The reference to the Stat. Dec. is interesting.

I was witness for a claimant in an action against a major bank, in Sydney, because I knew of the progress of the Application for Advance at the bank, had appended comment and was deemed an "expert witness". I had been head hunted by another bank, so had no alliegance to the defendant bank and had no position to protect. The ultimate approval by the bank was at variance with my appendages to the submission. The bank subsequently withdrew the approval after funds had been advanced and obligations contracted, leaving the client exposed and the bank then selling the project at auction - to a party associated with the bank!

The matter ran for 10 days and the facts presented by the claimant were accepted, as acknowledged by the presiding judge.

I was not subjected to cross examination despite spending a day and a half in "the box".

However, the decision rested absolutely and entirely on the fact that a release had been signed by the claimant at an earlier time.

Costs were awarded against the claimant, who then declared bankrupt.

The claim to the Court that the release had been signed under duress was not accepted because the document had been signed and signed without reservation.

The Courts will normally favour the weaker against the stronger, which is why banks instruct that any security documentation is taken away for execution in the presence of a legal practitioner who acknowledges that they have explained the full import of the documentation prior to the execution.

This "over-kill" by banks is because of the recognition that the Courts will favour the weaker against the stronger, and the bank's security must therefore be water-tight.

The witnessing of the Stat. Dec. (by who, when and where) will be of interest, but, from my experience, I would not like to be in Thomas's shoes regardless.

As stated, if the amount awarded to Thomas is less than the offer, Thomas is liable for the costs of St Kilda FC.

No doubt St Kilda FC have accepted legal advice in this matter over the full course - and have acted in accordance with that legal advice, including by making the (succesive) offers they have.

I would hope that Butters has a mortgage over Thomas's house to secure the monies he lent (plus interest and charges thereon) - or, at least, has lodged a caveat over the property detailing his interest.

A title search at the LTO would be of interest.

It may be Thomas has nothing to lose!

The decision of the Court will, in the normal course, be reserved and handed down at a later date.

It may well be that the matter is mediated at the door of the Court (ie in the ante rooms whilst the County Court is in session) and Consent Orders are handed to the judge for assent.

These Consent Orders may be deemed privilaged, so don't hold your breath until the presentation of St Kilda FC's subsequent Annual Statements - and maybe not even then.

The size of the claim is why it is listed at the County Court.

[Teflon]

I laugh at those who defended their god "GT" to the hilt as a Saints man through and through...now hiding like gutless squibs behind the "oh who really cares lets all move on...nothing to see here folks" lame @ssed excuses....

I guess when you didnt see the train coming when many saw it years ago what else do you say other than your a d!ck. But we know who they are don't we???

As for Grant - as I and many have said for years - a treacherous, lechereous, used car salesman...who aint done dining out on the St Kilda FC yet.....

(some tw!ts on here even were suggesting in recent times as to what "roles" we could get him back into at the club to help the club out!!!)Some people scare me......

[JeffDunne]

But we know who they are don't we???

[Enrico_Misso]

I laugh at those who defended their god "GT" to the hilt as a Saints man through and through...now hiding like gutless squibs behind the "oh who really cares lets all move on...nothing to see here folks" lame @ssed excuses....

I still maintain he did a good job for us up to 2004.
Then dropped away after that.

And yes I always felt he was a loyal saints man.
But I concede that his behaviour since Sep 2006 has been disgraceful.
Not sure how much is ego and how much is greed.

And it is particularly poor form to reject the peace offer from the new board.
Since he is hell bent on taking it to court, I hope the court upholds the validity of his stat dec renouncing any monetery claims, and therefore give him nothing except a big fat legal bill.

I won't be defending him any more !

[Teflon]

But we know who they are don't we???

How bout you Jeffery -you "moved on"?

[mischa]

Attending the court case. You really make me laugh. If GT said boo to you, you would break the 100 metre world record.

Goes to show how much you know, which is BTW, SFA, IMHO, FWIW, NN

Would happily tell Thomas what I thought of him to his face and would not hesitate to do so

and that's FAIR DINKUM

last time you did..it ended in tears...for you......

by the way mods...thomas is a member of this forum.....i thought calling forum members was against the rules....do something about it.....

Thank God for you and plugger. Some halfwit in 'The rage' continues their vendetta against GT (Is this even news?) and the more-boring-than-they'll-ever-know, baying for blood crew decide to stick the knife in again Good luck GT-from at least one Saints member wouldn't trust Butterss as far as I could throw a navy destroyer!

[Little Dozer]

He was a lousy coach and this is just pathetic from someone who supposedly "loves" the club. Go away already!

[The Fireman]

There's nothing quite like a GT thread to stir SS from it's slumber.

Some of you really spend too much time thinking and posting about a bloke and issue that will have zero impact on our chances for a successful and profitable season.

Thought the same thing and it's amazing how the subject can cause members to attack each other.
Don't sweat it guys as this is a fart in a thunderstorm and the only impact will be that B4E will get his rocks off.
Will not affect the club full stop.

[rodgerfox]

How about Grant Thomas logs in under his member's name and puts forward his case to us.........

Now that would be showing some form of putting your balls on the line and being a man wouldn't it!

I severely doubt he would though. I think he seriously lacks intestinal fortitude.

We have a new contender for worst post of the year.

Infact, I'd like to nominate this for the big one - The Worst Post of all Time.

[TimeToShineFellas]

How about Grant Thomas logs in under his member's name and puts forward his case to us.........

Now that would be showing some form of putting your balls on the line and being a man wouldn't it!

I severely doubt he would though. I think he seriously lacks intestinal fortitude.

We have a new contender for worst post of the year.

Infact, I'd like to nominate this for the big one - The Worst Post of all Time.

I can quite honestly and confidently say that I don't care.

Not one iota.

Not a skerrick.

Not an ounce.

Couldn't give a shiit.


And, I'm surprised that others do.

Sorry but for someone who doesn't give a stuff, you're not doing a very good job of being convincing are you?

Carry on.......

[rodgerfox]

How about Grant Thomas logs in under his member's name and puts forward his case to us.........

Now that would be showing some form of putting your balls on the line and being a man wouldn't it!

I severely doubt he would though. I think he seriously lacks intestinal fortitude.

We have a new contender for worst post of the year.

Infact, I'd like to nominate this for the big one - The Worst Post of all Time.

I can quite honestly and confidently say that I don't care.

Not one iota.

Not a skerrick.

Not an ounce.

Couldn't give a shiit.


And, I'm surprised that others do.

Sorry but for someone who doesn't give a stuff, you're not doing a very good job of being convincing are you?

Carry on.......

I don't give a rat's arse. And I am perplexed as to why others do.

Your post was simply ridiculous whether you agree with Grant Thomas, disagree with Grant Thomas, or don't give a shiit either way.