NO SH*T!!!!!homework wrote:Look I don't know much about the draft.mad saint guy wrote:I wholeheartedly agree.SaintBot wrote:
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homework wrote:Why didn't we select David Gourdis with any of our National draft picks (70)
homework wrote:So we could have selected Gourdis or Joseph?
homework wrote:Why couldn't we select them?
homework wrote:Have a sook geez why would I read anything that idiot has to say
ltn16 dont botherLTN16 wrote:Well here's some good positive comments from homework
homework wrote:Why didn't we select David Gourdis with any of our National draft picks (70)homework wrote:So we could have selected Gourdis or Joseph?homework wrote:Why couldn't we select them?homework wrote:Have a sook geez why would I read anything that idiot has to say![]()
I agree with VS here.Oh When the Saints wrote:How do you suppose we acquire them then?vacuous space wrote: I'm not a fan of drafting pockets and wingmen.
The Pies small forward options look quite good....and I personally think that Schneider will work very well for us.....mad saint guy wrote:[
The crumbing small forward is just about gone from the game. .
Is the Japanese kid treated the same as other rookies, ie. can he be elevated at any time??saintsRrising wrote:Agree but there are 7..not 6..saintspremiers wrote:
If so, if don't have much risk given we have 6 rookies on our list.
1. Attard, Jayden
2. Eddy, Robert
3. Haretuku, Khan
4. van Rheenen, Luke
5. Glenn Chivers
6. Luke Miles
7. Andrew McQualter
he came from across the tasman last time i checkedsaintspremiers wrote:Is the Japanese kid treated the same as other rookies, ie. can he be elevated at any time??saintsRrising wrote:Agree but there are 7..not 6..saintspremiers wrote:
If so, if don't have much risk given we have 6 rookies on our list.
1. Attard, Jayden
2. Eddy, Robert
3. Haretuku, Khan
4. van Rheenen, Luke
5. Glenn Chivers
6. Luke Miles
7. Andrew McQualter
Isn't he just a token rookie to keep the AFL happy and make them look like they are fair dinkum in NSW school system or something similar, enabling us an extra rookie (who will most likely never play a senior game - no offence to the dude, just the way the scolorship system may pan out).
Japanese/Kiwi - same thing!! - nah, just thought the name sounded kinda Japanese, that's all, I assume he's a Maori then? Hopefully a decent size bloke!SaintBot wrote:he came from across the tasman last time i checkedsaintspremiers wrote:Is the Japanese kid treated the same as other rookies, ie. can he be elevated at any time??saintsRrising wrote:Agree but there are 7..not 6..saintspremiers wrote:
If so, if don't have much risk given we have 6 rookies on our list.
1. Attard, Jayden
2. Eddy, Robert
3. Haretuku, Khan
4. van Rheenen, Luke
5. Glenn Chivers
6. Luke Miles
7. Andrew McQualter
Isn't he just a token rookie to keep the AFL happy and make them look like they are fair dinkum in NSW school system or something similar, enabling us an extra rookie (who will most likely never play a senior game - no offence to the dude, just the way the scolorship system may pan out).
yep i agreemad saint guy wrote:I agree with VS here.Oh When the Saints wrote:How do you suppose we acquire them then?vacuous space wrote: I'm not a fan of drafting pockets and wingmen.
Unless a player is a freakish goalkicker (eg: Addam Maric) or a wingman with awsome skills (Cale Morton) I would like us to stay away from speciallist wingmen or forward pockets.
The crumbing small forward is just about gone from the game. These days you want strong-marking medium forwards who can play in the midfield and are also good at ground level (Paul Chapman, Ryan O'Keefe, Steve Johnson). The taller guys of this sort will probably be a key forward in the juniors and slip in the draft because they aren't tall enough to play the same role in the AFL. The shorter players will probably be play as goalkicking midfielders in the juniors.
Wingmen who play a very outside game in the juniors probably just don't have the size or toughness to make it in the AFL. If there is a quick, skilled wingman who likes to break tackles and run down opponents then they should be fine, but in a lot of junior competitions wingmen just don't like to get their hands dirty.
The short version:
To acquire small/medium forwards, I think we should target undersized KPPs who are good at ground level or midfielders with a good goal sense.
To get quick wingmen, just choose fast midfielders who play in the middle.
from my understanding they will only have to pay mcqualter the same amount that he was supposed to get for 2008. Not get paid for this 2nd year of his contract and the rookie payment.Ghost Like wrote:I may have this completely wrong but I'm thinking McQualter has just received a pay rise as I still believe he'll be holding the money that the Saints have paid him for being delisted with a year to run PLUS now we'll be paying him the going rate of a rookie listed player.saintly wrote:well if noone had picked mcqualter up, the saints would have had to pay him out for 2008. this way he has a chanceGhost Like wrote:Our only backward move this post/pre season. Still as other posters have said, a big wake up call and our footy department know alot more than us armchair experts.saintsRrising wrote:Mini back with pick 39!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe he has the character to make a go of this, let's hope his ability matches his character.
Unless of course the club has had a word with him and offered the lifeline providing he doesn't cash his rookie pay cheque. I don't know how that would look on the books though, are rookies included in our salary cap or are they separate?
I also think that Schneider is a good recruit. He can be a good crumber at times, but he has also stated that he wants to build his fitness and play in the midfield. He is good overhead for a midget and has a strong body so can be of use around the clearances.saintsRrising wrote:I personally think that Schneider will work very well for us.....mad saint guy wrote:[
The crumbing small forward is just about gone from the game. .
Chapman is a small forward...not a mid....
I think that you are judging Eljay harshly.....he may not make it.....but he hasa broader set of attributes than that.mad saint guy wrote:
I'm just not a fan of recruiting Phil Raymond/Eljay Connors types who rely on just pace and skill. .
if 3 out of 4 picks play consistant senior footy into the future surely that is a pass markTeflon wrote:Mcqualter was a wasted pick IMO - to small, slow and cant lay a tackle nor kick further than 30.....much of that aint gonna change even as back up material.
Eljay makes me wonder whether we bought the whole "must buys speed" theory......very slight, Phil Raymondesque....time will tell.
Other than that quite a good period.......on paper.....
Mini is one of the best tacklers at the club and I don't hink his pace is a problem. It certainly isn't a strength, but he's no slower than Dal Santo or Hayes. A 21 year old kid who wins lots of the footy, tackles like crazy and has safe (although not hugely damaging) disposal is definitely worth a spot on the rookie list.Teflon wrote:Mcqualter was a wasted pick IMO - to small, slow and cant lay a tackle nor kick further than 30.....much of that aint gonna change even as back up material