Top disposal talles past 5 years.

[Vortex]

You don’t have 3 players in the midfield either

You have 5 + 1 (hhf)

Ad two more VFL players and I think Teffers would agree.

[skeptic]

I’ll think about that Vortex. To be clear, on talent, Jones in pbly top 10. Love the kid. He just never seems to have a consistent patch of playing at the standard he wows us at… does 2-3 games and then breaks down.

[B.M]

Jones wasn’t in the right headspace last season.

His best is excellent around the footy

His worst is poor

Big gap

[D.B.Cooper]

Starting midfield 5 this season imo

Steele
Crouch
Windhager
Ross (ic)
Jones (ic)

Wings
McKenzie
Hill
Wood (ic)

Able to go into the midfield from other spots

Billings from HF to Wing
Sinclair from HB to Mid/Wing
Clark from HB to Mid/Wing
Gresham from Small Forward to Mid

Depth
Owens
Phillipou
Bytel
Byrnes

This highlights we really lack quality midfield depth.

Jones would not be a top 5 mid in any other club in the competition.

I think Owens might be a starting 22 forward/ mid in 2023 and I’d expect NWM to play similar games to 2022 (15-20?)

Yep Jones better step up or his borderline not making the side if some of these kids step up..
Ross has already been pushed out of the midfield under Ratten on numerous occasions
Look for Sinclair to come in as Joey M flagged - best round the ball it’s his next evolution to greatness
Jones could play HB
I also think Owens will get a run not far behind Windhager
Ross will go out
That midfield Martin has put up is treacle slow/1 paced lacks class that Sincs will bring

Jones will take Hills spot off the half back.

Can’t see it, too much of a butcher for half back, most coaches looking for elite foot skills at half back IMO.

I could see him as a pressure forward.

Sinclair, Billings, Clark off half back for mine.

Yeah he's not the best use of the ball by foot, but he's been more of a defender/mid and can extract and carry off HB quite well.

Billings is too much of a receiver to be risked in the backline I reckon.

Same could have been said about Sinclair 3 seasons ago. He was a Nice player, but was not physical in his play at all.

To his and the coaches credit he has turned himself into a hard at it win your own contest gun AFL player.

It’s been a remarkable turnaround and hats off to the lad.

Probably the reason I’m keen to see Billings play half back, but also he’s decent and quite courageous in marking contests and one of our better field kicks.

Jones as small pressure forward as he could win more ball than Butler and Billings to half back along with Sinclair and Clark is what I’m hoping for.

[Vortex]

Probably the reason I’m keen to see Billings play half back, but also he’s decent and quite courageous in marking contests and one of our better field kicks.

Don't get me wrong, as St Kilda supporters we love sticking it up em and being the underdog who proves em wrong (it's been while on that score but you get my drift), so if Jack is swept up in the magical aura of RL and finally becomes "that" player then we will all be stoked, it would be like we've bought in a new gun recruit for free and would be a massive list boost.

I'm just not sure Jack has it in him...another jucy sub-plot for 23.

[B.M]

Jack Billings has proved in the past - fully fit - he is a quality AFL player.

His body has not been durable and that’s led to inconsistency

Ability is not the problem, courage is not the problem

He also plays the hardest position in the AFL as a medium HF


Every player we’ve played as a medium HF in the last decade has struggled

[Teflon]

Ross will wand them into shape fear not
Jones butchers the ball too much for my liking
Seb was good on occasion last year but pushed out of midfield at times for reason - he doesn’t offer anything different to a Steele/Crouch who are better players
Sincs has been training mids pre season …Rosco knows …
Wand time!

[B.M]

I think Nick Walsh does the fitness not really the domain of the senior coach

He doesn’t want to get ‘caught in the weeds’ remember

This is not 1985 where the coach does everything

Seb was good on occasion was he?
He played as a starting mid most games and was never pushed out. Finished 5th in the B&F

[Teflon]

I think Nick Walsh does the fitness not really the domain of the senior coach

He doesn’t want to get ‘caught in the weeds’ remember

This is not 1985 where the coach does everything

Seb was good on occasion was he?
He played as a starting mid most games and was never pushed out. Finished 5th in the B&F

I think David Misson gave the update after training on how pleased they were with player fitness levels…
Who insisted on employing him again????
Ratts?

[B.M]

Lyon is a quality coach

He will improve us in a few areas, probably equate to a win or two? Injuries will decide?

But your faith in him turning us into a top side with unproven player is funny.



What are you going to say if we have a 6-10 win season?

[Teflon]

Lyon is a quality coach

He will improve us in a few areas, probably equate to a win or two? Injuries will decide?

But your faith in him turning us into a top side with unproven player is funny.



What are you going to say if we have a 6-10 win season?

Lyon is quality and gets the best…as quality managers do…hence Misson - do you think he’s better than Brett ? Or they all the same at AFL level?? No real difference in how they manage a team?

I’ll say we are on 4 year journey which is why Bassat and co gave him the tenure
What are you going to say if we make finals after last year’s debacle?
Let me guess ….it was all better injury luck??

[B.M]

Last year we won 11 games

Hardly a debacle

Hopefully we win more than 11 this season

What will you say if we don’t?

Because if we don’t - it’s full rebuild

Lyon has never proven he can build a team from the draft

[B.M]

I think we have the list to win between 10-13 wins

Injury depending

King will have a massive impact

[The Fireman]

IN ROSS WE TRUST

[B.M]

Why?

[The Fireman]

Why?

got any better ideas ?

[Teflon]

Why?

got any better ideas ?

And……..crickets…

[B.M]

I think Ross can coach footy - proven it in the past

I also think he makes mistake - proven by the past

The whole - everything the club does is right, I trust the decision makers, I put my faith in the club and/or coaches

Is whimsical

It’s blind faith - hope

Me
Cynical by nature, will always question and challenge if I think poor decisions are made

Ross left the club fkd - he didn’t develop and the list was a mess when he bailed

[Teflon]

I think Ross can coach footy - proven it in the past

I also think he makes mistake - proven by the past

The whole - everything the club does is right, I trust the decision makers, I put my faith in the club and/or coaches

Is whimsical

It’s blind faith - hope

Me
Cynical by nature, will always question and challenge if I think poor decisions are made

Ross left the club fkd - he didn’t develop and the list was a mess when he bailed

What an inspiring, insightful poster you are
“I think Ross does good things…..I think Ross makes mistakes”
Who the **** (except you?? ….Siposs rings a bell..) doesn’t make mistakes Nostradamus???
You get that pearl of wisdom from watching late night re-runs of F-Troop cause you remind me of them…
Comedy gold.
What a silly post.
Oh…..and AGAIN you didn’t answer Firey’s question …
Who was a better option and available than Lyon?????
….might be wise to answer another one from your imagination instead as normal

[saynta]

I think Ross can coach footy - proven it in the past

I also think he makes mistake - proven by the past

The whole - everything the club does is right, I trust the decision makers, I put my faith in the club and/or coaches

Is whimsical

It’s blind faith - hope

Me
Cynical by nature, will always question and challenge if I think poor decisions are made

Ross left the club fkd - he didn’t develop and the list was a mess when he bailed

What an inspiring, insightful poster you are
“I think Ross does good things…..I think Ross makes mistakes”
Who the **** (except you?? ….Siposs rings a bell..) doesn’t make mistakes Nostradamus???
You get that pearl of wisdom from watching late night re-runs of F-Troop cause you remind me of them…
Comedy gold.
What a silly post.
Oh…..and AGAIN you didn’t answer Firey’s question …
Who was a better option and available than Lyon?????
….might be wise to answer another one from your imagination instead as normal

Once more this poster sidetracks a post with abuse when someone voices an opinion he/she/they don't/doesn't agree with.

Getting pretty tiresome.

[Teflon]

I think Ross can coach footy - proven it in the past

I also think he makes mistake - proven by the past

The whole - everything the club does is right, I trust the decision makers, I put my faith in the club and/or coaches

Is whimsical

It’s blind faith - hope

Me
Cynical by nature, will always question and challenge if I think poor decisions are made

Ross left the club fkd - he didn’t develop and the list was a mess when he bailed

What an inspiring, insightful poster you are
“I think Ross does good things…..I think Ross makes mistakes”
Who the **** (except you?? ….Siposs rings a bell..) doesn’t make mistakes Nostradamus???
You get that pearl of wisdom from watching late night re-runs of F-Troop cause you remind me of them…
Comedy gold.
What a silly post.
Oh…..and AGAIN you didn’t answer Firey’s question …
Who was a better option and available than Lyon?????
….might be wise to answer another one from your imagination instead as normal

Once more this poster sidetracks a post with abuse when someone voices an opinion he/she/they don't/doesn't agree with.

Getting pretty tiresome.

You’ll have to run to mods again…perhaps print it out?? - as long as I can too for the pathetic attempt in other thread you tried to derail ???

[Teflon]

I think Ross can coach footy - proven it in the past

I also think he makes mistake - proven by the past

The whole - everything the club does is right, I trust the decision makers, I put my faith in the club and/or coaches

Is whimsical

It’s blind faith - hope

Me
Cynical by nature, will always question and challenge if I think poor decisions are made

Ross left the club fkd - he didn’t develop and the list was a mess when he bailed

What an inspiring, insightful poster you are
“I think Ross does good things…..I think Ross makes mistakes”
Who the **** (except you?? ….Siposs rings a bell..) doesn’t make mistakes Nostradamus???
You get that pearl of wisdom from watching late night re-runs of F-Troop cause you remind me of them…
Comedy gold.
What a silly post.
Oh…..and AGAIN you didn’t answer Firey’s question …
Who was a better option and available than Lyon?????
….might be wise to answer another one from your imagination instead as normal

Once more this poster sidetracks a post with abuse when someone voices an opinion he/she/they don't/doesn't agree with.

Getting pretty tiresome.

You’ll have to run to mods again…perhaps print it out?? - as long as I can too for the pathetic attempt in other thread you tried to derail ???
And for the record - this whole site is sick of your passive/aggressive “rolly eye emojis” cr@p and have been for years ….tiring? Yep.

[saynta]

I think Ross can coach footy - proven it in the past

I also think he makes mistake - proven by the past

The whole - everything the club does is right, I trust the decision makers, I put my faith in the club and/or coaches

Is whimsical

It’s blind faith - hope

Me
Cynical by nature, will always question and challenge if I think poor decisions are made

Ross left the club fkd - he didn’t develop and the list was a mess when he bailed

What an inspiring, insightful poster you are
“I think Ross does good things…..I think Ross makes mistakes”
Who the **** (except you?? ….Siposs rings a bell..) doesn’t make mistakes Nostradamus???
You get that pearl of wisdom from watching late night re-runs of F-Troop cause you remind me of them…
Comedy gold.
What a silly post.
Oh…..and AGAIN you didn’t answer Firey’s question …
Who was a better option and available than Lyon?????
….might be wise to answer another one from your imagination instead as normal

Once more this poster sidetracks a post with abuse when someone voices an opinion he/she/they don't/doesn't agree with.

Getting pretty tiresome.

You’ll have to run to mods again…perhaps print it out?? - as long as I can too for the pathetic attempt in other thread you tried to derail ???
And for the record - this whole site is sick of your passive/aggressive “rolly eye emojis” cr@p and have been for years ….tiring? Yep.

[Teflon]

There he is Mr passive aggressive
I hope you didn’t include emojis on legal docs??

[saynta]

There he is Mr passive aggressive
I hope you didn’t include emojis on legal docs??