Current Forward Set Ups across the AFL

[Devilhead]

You obviously haven't watched all his 7 games

Took a classic pack grab v Adelaide (3.40min to go in the 1st quarter) and am guessing there are others .... unfortunately I ain't a video wiz to edit and post specifically selective highlights

I do believe you are fairly intelligent but it's hard to make case for this questionable fact when you keep spouting crap

[Vortex]

You obviously haven't watched all his 7 games

Took a classic pack grab v North and am guessing there are others .... unfortunately I ain't a video wiz to edit and post specifically selective highlights

I do believe you are fairly intelligent but it's hard to make case for this questionable fact when you keep spouting crap

Are you sure?

Go to the 2min 25sec mark.

Is that that the goal you are calling a classic pack mark?



No contact at all in the marking contest, I suppose there was a "pack" of players around him but not sure it's considered an actual "pack" mark let alone a classic pack mark.

He played a stinker that game.

[Devilhead]

He took the classic pack mark between half forward and the wing

Obviously you don't watch matches only highlights ..... that much is clear

[Vortex]

He took the classic pack mark between half forward and the wing

Obviously you don't watch matches only highlights ..... that much is clear

Oh come on man give it up.

It must of been a "classic" , so much so it wasn't captured on camera and as such couldn't even make it on a highlights reel.

[Teflon]

You obviously haven't watched all his 7 games

Took a classic pack grab v North and am guessing there are others .... unfortunately I ain't a video wiz to edit and post specifically selective highlights

I do believe you are fairly intelligent but it's hard to make case for this questionable fact when you keep spouting crap

Never battle wits with an unarmed man…

Sharman can take a grab that’s for certain infact it was why Brereton rated him as one of the AFLs up and coming top 5 forwards to watch - he cited the fact he moves well and gets to smart positions on field (he can read play well)
He averages more contested marks in 22 than Higgins (Higgins ofcourse kicks more goals and has disposal numbers but has also played 10 games to Sharman 4)

[Teflon]

Problem with Sharman is that he just isn't that good. His VFL form is meh.
I think he gets overated mainly due to his game against Geelong, where they paid him no respect and let him run around without an opponent.
He's a nice kick and can take a mark, but if he can't dominate consistently at VFL level, how is he going going to be the answer at AFL level?

I'm not convinced that Sharman's performance in the VFL, notably his low level of the magical disposals stats is necessarily indicative of his quality. Any player who contributed 3 goals in the VFL is worthy of consideration, in Sharman's case he will be playing the role set for him by the coaches and for all we know they judge him favourably on how he performs in that role.

The essence of this thread is that St Kilda has failed to include a 3rd tall forward since Jack Hayes was injured which is an indictment of the match committee, and Sharman has demonstrated his ability to play in that position, so I believe it has been a mistake to leave him out.

The lack of a 3rd tall forward was most definitely a major factor in the loss against Essendon, and probably the previous week against the Lions as well. All the more so since Higgins has been in very poor form since returning after the bye, as well as Marshall being out of sorts at the moment.

Great post
Those telling Sharman isn’t the answer after 7 games is astounding- crystal ball (or meth!) clearly in supply
He needs a block of games to see if he can cut it longer term and we as a team need it to work as our midget forward brigade forward line is already proven to fall apart when the heat comes on.

[Devilhead]

Oh come on man give it up.

It must of been a "classic" , so much so it wasn't captured on camera and as such couldn't even make it on a highlights reel.

My bad it was against Adelaide with 3.40 to go In the first quarter

Check it out and slink back into your disbelieving Vortex ...... and apology accepted

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[Teflon]

Oh come on man give it up.

It must of been a "classic" , so much so it wasn't captured on camera and as such couldn't even make it on a highlights reel.

My bad it was against Adelaide with 3.40 to go In the first quarter

Check it out and slink back into your disbelieving Vortex ...... and apology accepted

[media]]

what a grab!

[Devilhead]

Stats also say that he has taken 9 contested grabs out of the 29 marks he has taken so far in his AFL career so that's 1 in 3

So much for not being able to take a contested grab

Do we agree that Vortex has vortexed himself in this case?

[Teflon]

Stats also say that he has taken 9 contested grabs out of the 29 marks he has taken so far in his AFL career so that's 1 in 3

So much for not being able to take an uncontested grab

Do we agree that Vortex has vortexed himself in this case?

Lol think the Vort has disappeared up his own Vortex !

[Vortex]

Oh come on man give it up.

It must of been a "classic" , so much so it wasn't captured on camera and as such couldn't even make it on a highlights reel.

My bad it was against Adelaide with 3.40 to go In the first quarter

Check it out and slink back into your disbelieving Vortex ...... and apology accepted

[media]]

I thought you said you watched footy, clearly you don't but lucky they have highlight reels huh. Maybe your definition what a contested grab is doesn't sit well with Ratts because he played a shocker against the Crows and he played even worse against North, but he'll yeah he's the answer to our issues in the forward line. I hope he gets picked this week, I want to see more contested grabs like that classic against the Crows.

[Devilhead]

It's ok to admit defeat .... you made a call and it got smashed for 6 out of the park ...... yes it stings ... but ts OK .... don't be too hard on yourself

[Vortex]

It's ok to admit defeat .... you made a call and it got smashed for 6 out of the park ...... yes it stings ... but ts OK .... don't be too hard on yourself

Ok I admit defeat. It's got me stuffed why 7 touches in a VFL game isnt getting him selected. I've got nothing...

[Scollop]

I've got nothing...

That's not true

You've got plenty to say about structure Vortex. You stated many times that we needed a third permanent tall

viewtopic.php?p=1911505#p1911505

You said the Saints could go after Mason Cox and you mentioned him several times in various threads ..hmmmmm

viewtopic.php?p=1911411#p1911411

viewtopic.php?p=1912710#p1912710

And I had a little chuckle at this one below. You use the phrase 'clutch goals' for one of our forwards

Did you want me to add the below to the thread you started regarding 'Clutch Goals'?

viewtopic.php?p=1873298#p1873298

[Vortex]

I've got nothing...

That's not true

You've got plenty to say about structure Vortex. You stated many times that we needed a third permanent tall

viewtopic.php?p=1911505#p1911505

You said the Saints could go after Mason Cox and you mentioned him several times in various threads ..hmmmmm

viewtopic.php?p=1911411#p1911411

viewtopic.php?p=1912710#p1912710

And I had a little chuckle at this one below. You use the phrase 'clutch goals' for one of our forwards

Did you want me to add the below to the thread you started regarding 'Clutch Goals'?

viewtopic.php?p=1873298#p1873298

Have you gone back to turning the sound down again Scollo, you've probably heard this a bit in your life but are your ears painted on?

Yes I think we need an extra tall, I just don't think a player getting 7 touches at VFL level gets a game but well see. So structure is one thing but picking players who can play at the elite level is more important.

[Scollop]

I've got nothing...

That's not true

You've got plenty to say about structure Vortex. You stated many times that we needed a third permanent tall

viewtopic.php?p=1911505#p1911505

You said the Saints could go after Mason Cox and you mentioned him several times in various threads ..hmmmmm

viewtopic.php?p=1911411#p1911411

viewtopic.php?p=1912710#p1912710

And I had a little chuckle at this one below. You use the phrase 'clutch goals' for one of our forwards

Did you want me to add the below to the thread you started regarding 'Clutch Goals'?

viewtopic.php?p=1873298#p1873298

Have you gone back to turning the sound down again Scollo, you've probably heard this a bit in your life but are your ears painted on?

Yes I think we need an extra tall, I just don't think a player getting 7 touches at VFL level gets a game but well see. So structure is one thing but picking players who can play at the elite level is more important.

How the fk would you (or anyone) be able to predict who is going to be elite or not after a dozen games of AFL

Anyway, you've proven Cairnsman many a time that your footy knowledge is not elite.

[Devilhead]

I've got nothing...

That's not true

You've got plenty to say about structure Vortex. You stated many times that we needed a third permanent tall

viewtopic.php?p=1911505#p1911505

You said the Saints could go after Mason Cox and you mentioned him several times in various threads ..hmmmmm

viewtopic.php?p=1911411#p1911411

viewtopic.php?p=1912710#p1912710

And I had a little chuckle at this one below. You use the phrase 'clutch goals' for one of our forwards

Did you want me to add the below to the thread you started regarding 'Clutch Goals'?

viewtopic.php?p=1873298#p1873298

Have you gone back to turning the sound down again Scollo, you've probably heard this a bit in your life but are your ears painted on?

Yes I think we need an extra tall, I just don't think a player getting 7 touches at VFL level gets a game but well see. So structure is one thing but picking players who can play at the elite level is more important.

How the fk would you (or anyone) be able to predict who is going to be elite or not after a dozen games of AFL

Anyway, you've proven Cairnsman many a time that your footy knowledge is not elite.

Ouch

[Devilhead]

I've got nothing...

That's not true

You've got plenty to say about structure Vortex. You stated many times that we needed a third permanent tall

viewtopic.php?p=1911505#p1911505

You said the Saints could go after Mason Cox and you mentioned him several times in various threads ..hmmmmm

viewtopic.php?p=1911411#p1911411

viewtopic.php?p=1912710#p1912710

And I had a little chuckle at this one below. You use the phrase 'clutch goals' for one of our forwards

Did you want me to add the below to the thread you started regarding 'Clutch Goals'?

viewtopic.php?p=1873298#p1873298

Have you gone back to turning the sound down again Scollo, you've probably heard this a bit in your life but are your ears painted on?

Yes I think we need an extra tall, I just don't think a player getting 7 touches at VFL level gets a game but well see. So structure is one thing but picking players who can play at the elite level is more important.

Plugger averaged 7 possessions in his his first 7 games and kicked 10.6

Going by your system Plugger should have been discarded early days ...... absolute complete hack

[Vortex]

I've got nothing...

That's not true

You've got plenty to say about structure Vortex. You stated many times that we needed a third permanent tall

viewtopic.php?p=1911505#p1911505

You said the Saints could go after Mason Cox and you mentioned him several times in various threads ..hmmmmm

viewtopic.php?p=1911411#p1911411

viewtopic.php?p=1912710#p1912710

And I had a little chuckle at this one below. You use the phrase 'clutch goals' for one of our forwards

Did you want me to add the below to the thread you started regarding 'Clutch Goals'?

viewtopic.php?p=1873298#p1873298

Have you gone back to turning the sound down again Scollo, you've probably heard this a bit in your life but are your ears painted on?

Yes I think we need an extra tall, I just don't think a player getting 7 touches at VFL level gets a game but well see. So structure is one thing but picking players who can play at the elite level is more important.

How the fk would you (or anyone) be able to predict who is going to be elite or not after a dozen games of AFL

Anyway, you've proven Cairnsman many a time that your footy knowledge is not elite.

Stop it Scolllo, you'll hurt my feelings and then I'll need a hug and you don't strike me as the hugging type.

[Teflon]

I've got nothing...

That's not true

You've got plenty to say about structure Vortex. You stated many times that we needed a third permanent tall

viewtopic.php?p=1911505#p1911505

You said the Saints could go after Mason Cox and you mentioned him several times in various threads ..hmmmmm

viewtopic.php?p=1911411#p1911411

viewtopic.php?p=1912710#p1912710

And I had a little chuckle at this one below. You use the phrase 'clutch goals' for one of our forwards

Did you want me to add the below to the thread you started regarding 'Clutch Goals'?

viewtopic.php?p=1873298#p1873298

Have you gone back to turning the sound down again Scollo, you've probably heard this a bit in your life but are your ears painted on?

Yes I think we need an extra tall, I just don't think a player getting 7 touches at VFL level gets a game but well see. So structure is one thing but picking players who can play at the elite level is more important.

How the fk would you (or anyone) be able to predict who is going to be elite or not after a dozen games of AFL

Anyway, you've proven Cairnsman many a time that your footy knowledge is not elite.

Stop it Scolllo, you'll hurt my feelings and then I'll need a hug and you don't strike me as the hugging type.

You’ve been owned Vort
Best quit while the goings moderately bad..

[Vortex]

I've got nothing...

That's not true

You've got plenty to say about structure Vortex. You stated many times that we needed a third permanent tall

viewtopic.php?p=1911505#p1911505

You said the Saints could go after Mason Cox and you mentioned him several times in various threads ..hmmmmm

viewtopic.php?p=1911411#p1911411

viewtopic.php?p=1912710#p1912710

And I had a little chuckle at this one below. You use the phrase 'clutch goals' for one of our forwards

Did you want me to add the below to the thread you started regarding 'Clutch Goals'?

viewtopic.php?p=1873298#p1873298

Have you gone back to turning the sound down again Scollo, you've probably heard this a bit in your life but are your ears painted on?

Yes I think we need an extra tall, I just don't think a player getting 7 touches at VFL level gets a game but well see. So structure is one thing but picking players who can play at the elite level is more important.

How the fk would you (or anyone) be able to predict who is going to be elite or not after a dozen games of AFL

Anyway, you've proven Cairnsman many a time that your footy knowledge is not elite.

Stop it Scolllo, you'll hurt my feelings and then I'll need a hug and you don't strike me as the hugging type.

You’ve been owned Vort
Best quit while the goings moderately bad..

Yep and looking forward to seeing Sharman take on Sydney's backline this week especially taking on Paddy.

[Yorkeys]

Cooper might just be a proxy discussion point.
Is it fair to suggest we can reasonably expect to kick 8 goals a game. 2 from Max, 1 from Gresh, 1 from Billings, 1 from Tim, 1 from mids, 1 from half fwds, 1 other.
Means defence can only allow 1 goal against every 15 minutes on average. Seems too much to ask against skillful sides.
Whatever the set up it seems to me it needs to be much more attacking. But unless Owens and or Windhager become prolific goal scorers I can't see we have the personnel.