2014 List Management - Draft & Trade Discussion

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Re: 2014 List Management - Draft & Trade Discussion

Post: # 1501890Post Con Gorozidis »

dragit wrote:I've heard Brisbane are interested, Gold Coast probably don't need him.
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They wont give us pick 4.
So that leaves 24 which there is no we would accept. Cant see how we can trade with Brisbane really.


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Post: # 1501893Post Con Gorozidis »

Zed wrote:Went to the Sanfl grand final today. Ports John Butcher is the worst kick I have ever seen at senior level. Was clearly beaten today by a Sanfl level CHB. Belongs in the Ammos.
What about this Panos bloke?


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Con Gorozidis wrote:It has become an annual tradition to say we are trading Armo to a QLD side. So ill go along with it. What picks do GC have out of interest?
GC have a nice little bunch of picks:

https://www.draftguru.com.au/years/2014 ... raft-order

But if as drag it says they're not interested then I can't see how Brissie could get it done. Wrong picks and they'll spend their whole time arguing with Essendon about Ryder.


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Post: # 1501920Post Saint wagga »

Con Gorozidis wrote:
Saint wagga wrote:
dragit wrote:
True Believer wrote:
Zed wrote:Which senior player has decent trade value - yet is easiest to replace ??

Joey.
That would be the guy that everyone has been saying for most of the year "is playing like he is leaving at the end of the year".......
Hasn't that been happening for 3 years now?

Could also say "is playing with a fractured leg"

Armo has a lot more value than Joey, I reckon they will be seriously thinking about him.
I think it has to be Armo if we are looking at trading out a player with currency! But this is a tough call because Richo praised him big time on multiple times throughout the year...to offload him would be a real shock...but it might just have to happen. Armo's what, 26 I think, another couple of years and his currency would diminish and hopefully he'd be getting squeezed out anyway. The jury is still out on his absolute potential, could become A grade, or could be another Big Boy, solid B grader, no more...personally I don't know which way he'll go. But if we're serious about stocking up on draft talent, he'd be my pick for being shopped around if I were a betting man.
It has become an annual tradition to say we are trading Armo to a QLD side. So ill go along with it. What picks do GC have out of interest?
I certainly don't limit Armo's trade currency to Qld based sides - He will have decent currency across the board. As has been mentioned on here previously, whatever trade scenarios are discussed, we must play hardball and not flinch!


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
dragit wrote:I've heard Brisbane are interested, Gold Coast probably don't need him.
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They wont give us pick 4.
So that leaves 24 which there is no we would accept. Cant see how we can trade with Brisbane really.

What if it was Armo and our pick (is it pick 21?) for their pick 4 ??


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Post: # 1501997Post borderbarry »

Armo can kick. I would rather lose Jack.


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Post: # 1502000Post gringo »

borderbarry wrote:Armo can kick. I would rather lose Jack.

I don't think Jack will go anywhere. He's really in line to become a marquee player and is really popular with the kids. Some guys profile is worth as much as their on field out put. Jack isn't that bad a kick just works in tight under pressure any way. I would be keen to keep both unless the offer was so in our favour you couldn't say no.


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borderbarry wrote:Armo can kick. I would rather lose Jack.

Jack who? I hope you don't mean Steven. He will be our best player clearly next year baring injury. I will put that out there.


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Post: # 1502009Post remboy »

Surely we're not thinking about trading Armitage or Steven? Might as well trade everyone and see what we end up with. Or we can get 38 picks in the draft.


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Re: 2014 List Management - Draft & Trade Discussion

Post: # 1502021Post Saints94 »

plugger66 wrote:
borderbarry wrote:Armo can kick. I would rather lose Jack.

Jack who? I hope you don't mean Steven. He will be our best player clearly next year baring injury. I will put that out there.
+1, Can't wait to see him have a full pre season without hiccups leading into round 1. His 2013 form would be nice..


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Post: # 1502126Post Dave McNamara »

Saints94 wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
borderbarry wrote:Armo can kick. I would rather lose Jack.
Jack who? I hope you don't mean Steven. He will be our best player clearly next year baring injury. I will put that out there.
+1, Can't wait to see him have a full pre season without hiccups leading into round 1. His 2013 form would be nice..
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Post: # 1502130Post plugger66 »

Dave McNamara wrote:
Saints94 wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
borderbarry wrote:Armo can kick. I would rather lose Jack.
Jack who? I hope you don't mean Steven. He will be our best player clearly next year baring injury. I will put that out there.
+1, Can't wait to see him have a full pre season without hiccups leading into round 1. His 2013 form would be nice..
Plus two!

(Been too long since I've had a chance to agree with something that Pluggs has written. :wink: )
And seeing some of your ideas I can only thank god and don't believe in him at all.


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Re: 2014 List Management - Draft & Trade Discussion

Post: # 1502707Post fugazi »

Just by the sounds of it....he is likely to trade pick #1


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Post: # 1502711Post FQF »

Nothing new there. He said the pick is very much on the table if it would provide the most benefit to the club, but no offers have been made.


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Re: 2014 List Management - Draft & Trade Discussion

Post: # 1502718Post remboy »

There's been many clubs previously said a pick is on the table when they've got no intention of trading it. I'd be very surprised if we off loaded it. And only then it would have to invokve a deal which allowed to still get a top five pick.
Pelchan mentioned last year that we hadn't had access to top end talent for a decade. You don't solve that by giving away the first pick.


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Post: # 1502720Post Con Gorozidis »

fugazi wrote:Just by the sounds of it....he is likely to trade pick #1

I suspect he is just flying the Kite. Putting it out there in the media - to see what offers we get.
If we get a good offer hell look at it then. If no genuine offers - we probably go for the Pet.


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Post: # 1502723Post saintbrat »

Con Gorozidis wrote:
fugazi wrote:Just by the sounds of it....he is likely to trade pick #1

I suspect he is just flying the Kite. Putting it out there in the media - to see what offers we get.
If we get a good offer hell look at it then. If no genuine offers - we probably go for the Pet.
they have had it out there for a few weeks
Also up front about wanting 3 in first round, or near ala last year
But I'm guessing if they could get a quality 2nd year player and pick inside 20 for pick 1 they may take that


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Dayne Beams has requested a trade to Qld...Wow.


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Post: # 1502900Post noob »

If he goes to the gold coast I doubt we'll have another pick in the top 20.


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noob wrote:If he goes to the gold coast I doubt we'll have another pick in the top 20.

Why would it matter?


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Post: # 1502905Post dragit »

Old Mate wrote:Dayne Beams has requested a trade to Qld...Wow.
Guy feel says pick 30 is about right.

Hope they get a pittance.


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Post: # 1502910Post plugger66 »

dragit wrote:
Old Mate wrote:Dayne Beams has requested a trade to Qld...Wow.
Guy feel says pick 30 is about right.

Hope they get a pittance.

Pick 30? I would say pick 5. Doesn't he have a contract?


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Pelican may try his hardest to get 2 in the top 20 - incl a top 5 pick as one of the two but it may not happen at the end of the day, resulting in the arrival of a player most likely to successfully transition to afl. If Petra emulates Rooey or Banger for that matter the Pelican will be toasted enthusiastically for bringing him to our club. Of coarse any recruiter who agreed with the majority concensus of who the best available young player is would look smart if that player indeed repaid the confidence shown in him and excel in the big league.

Petracca may emerge as one of the 3 best centremen picked in the last 3 Nat. Drafts!
Pelchin and the brains trust would surely be considering this possibility and finding it close to impossible to trade out that Nb.1 pick. :)

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Gerard Whatley just said on 360 he had heard that it was in the bank that GWS will end up with pick 1 (Petracca). Will involve a swap of picks and players but will happen!


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