Cooper was BOG. Cowboy was only amazing! Barry Breen snatched it, and Bob Murray saved it. Every act counts.Toy Saint wrote:Ian Cooper was about 6'1" and about 70kgs, Marshall looks about 6'7" and appears to be around 90kg'ssaynta wrote:That we did. And he was BOG in the 1966 grand final.spert wrote:We had another skinny Saint in the 1960s- Ian CooperJacks Back wrote:I think Marshall is too skinny for senior footy just yet.saynta wrote:According to the Saints coaches,Marshall is a boy in a man's body.
That would put him a long way off senior selection.
And I thought Cowboy was BOG in the Grand Final.
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The one thing the club really tried to develop this year with their trading and drafting was a replacement foe each player and position ( whether through injury or management ) Think we've achieved that so really any changes shouldn't make much difference to the way we play. There is one player/position that we haven't got a ready made replacement. Let's hope he's durable.
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I have heard a few names thrown about as BOG recently as well as over the years, including Stewie, the Doc and the Cowboy.satchmo wrote:Cooper was BOG. Cowboy was only amazing! Barry Breen snatched it, and Bob Murray saved it. Every act counts.Toy Saint wrote:Ian Cooper was about 6'1" and about 70kgs, Marshall looks about 6'7" and appears to be around 90kg'ssaynta wrote:That we did. And he was BOG in the 1966 grand final.spert wrote:We had another skinny Saint in the 1960s- Ian CooperJacks Back wrote:I think Marshall is too skinny for senior footy just yet.saynta wrote:According to the Saints coaches,Marshall is a boy in a man's body.
That would put him a long way off senior selection.
And I thought Cowboy was BOG in the Grand Final.
Make no mistake, Ian Cooper was clearly BOG.
Get yourself a copy of the game and see for yourself.
For the record, Ian is listed at 188cm and 76 kg and Marshall at 201cm and 98 kgs.
Rowan's not anywhere near as slight as Ian was, but his coaches don't think he is ready to step up just yet.
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Let the guessing games begin. I say Jack Steven, a midfielder who can break away from packs. I'm not sure we have a replacement who can do it to the same degree.tony74 wrote:The one thing the club really tried to develop this year with their trading and drafting was a replacement foe each player and position ( whether through injury or management ) Think we've achieved that so really any changes shouldn't make much difference to the way we play. There is one player/position that we haven't got a ready made replacement. Let's hope he's durable.
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Big Jakey Carlisle looks close to the hardest to replace, for mine...bigcarl wrote:Let the guessing games begin. I say Jack Steven, a midfielder who can break away from packs. I'm not sure we have a replacement who can do it to the same degree.tony74 wrote:The one thing the club really tried to develop this year with their trading and drafting was a replacement foe each player and position ( whether through injury or management ) Think we've achieved that so really any changes shouldn't make much difference to the way we play. There is one player/position that we haven't got a ready made replacement. Let's hope he's durable.
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Josh Bruce can play chb and a Paddy can play ff.SuperDuper wrote:Big Jakey Carlisle looks close to the hardest to replace, for mine...bigcarl wrote:Let the guessing games begin. I say Jack Steven, a midfielder who can break away from packs. I'm not sure we have a replacement who can do it to the same degree.tony74 wrote:The one thing the club really tried to develop this year with their trading and drafting was a replacement foe each player and position ( whether through injury or management ) Think we've achieved that so really any changes shouldn't make much difference to the way we play. There is one player/position that we haven't got a ready made replacement. Let's hope he's durable.
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12bigcarl wrote:Josh Bruce can play chb and a Paddy can play ff.SuperDuper wrote:Big Jakey Carlisle looks close to the hardest to replace, for mine...bigcarl wrote:Let the guessing games begin. I say Jack Steven, a midfielder who can break away from packs. I'm not sure we have a replacement who can do it to the same degree.tony74 wrote:The one thing the club really tried to develop this year with their trading and drafting was a replacement foe each player and position ( whether through injury or management ) Think we've achieved that so really any changes shouldn't make much difference to the way we play. There is one player/position that we haven't got a ready made replacement. Let's hope he's durable.
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Yes, I thought about that, too. We did win well against a benchmark side without a massive contribution from him on Saturday. But yes, he's a once in a generation player and thus is hard to adequately cover.satchmo wrote:12bigcarl wrote:Josh Bruce can play chb and a Paddy can play ff.SuperDuper wrote:Big Jakey Carlisle looks close to the hardest to replace, for mine...bigcarl wrote:Let the guessing games begin. I say Jack Steven, a midfielder who can break away from packs. I'm not sure we have a replacement who can do it to the same degree.tony74 wrote:The one thing the club really tried to develop this year with their trading and drafting was a replacement foe each player and position ( whether through injury or management ) Think we've achieved that so really any changes shouldn't make much difference to the way we play. There is one player/position that we haven't got a ready made replacement. Let's hope he's durable.
I can't think of any other position we cannot cover adequately so long as the designated replacement isn't injured or otherwise unavailable.
Membrey to a degree could play wing and go forward and kick goals. He doesn't have Rooey's tank, though, Acres maybe as well.
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Re: Changes for the Blues
That's what I said on another thread yesterday. No tall back coverage apart from Goddard who is not currently fit enough or fast enough to be a ready replacement.dragit wrote:I don't think we have a replacement for either Carlisle or Brown right now...
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dragit wrote:I don't think we have a replacement for either Carlisle or Brown right now...
Well one could play Roo or Bruce back and Paddy as a forward.
Goddard has only played 2 or 3 games (He was in the Development Squad first? So he probably needs another month or two of playing VFL first.
Plus Coghlan is also just back from injury.
Another possibility was that Marshall did play CHB at North Ballarat last season. But he would obviously be raw and I suspect only suited to playing on the really tall forwards.
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i think tony meant we have no player that could cover that position to near the same standard as the player. i would guess carlisle, could be brown. although, even though we have an obvious replacement, i reckon with the way he's playing we'd miss roberton a lot.
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Thissaynta wrote:Straight swap.
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Re: Changes for the Blues
Ian Cooper was seriously tall for his era and skinny.saynta wrote:I have heard a few names thrown about as BOG recently as well as over the years, including Stewie, the Doc and the Cowboy.satchmo wrote:Cooper was BOG. Cowboy was only amazing! Barry Breen snatched it, and Bob Murray saved it. Every act counts.Toy Saint wrote:Ian Cooper was about 6'1" and about 70kgs, Marshall looks about 6'7" and appears to be around 90kg'ssaynta wrote:That we did. And he was BOG in the 1966 grand final.spert wrote:We had another skinny Saint in the 1960s- Ian CooperJacks Back wrote:I think Marshall is too skinny for senior footy just yet.saynta wrote:According to the Saints coaches,Marshall is a boy in a man's body.
That would put him a long way off senior selection.
And I thought Cowboy was BOG in the Grand Final.
Make no mistake, Ian Cooper was clearly BOG.
Get yourself a copy of the game and see for yourself.
For the record, Ian is listed at 188cm and 76 kg and Marshall at 201cm and 98 kgs.
Rowan's not anywhere near as slight as Ian was, but his coaches don't think he is ready to step up just yet.
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yep, indeed he could.. but I would rate that the worst like for like exchange on our listbigcarl wrote:Josh Bruce can play chb and a Paddy can play ff.SuperDuper wrote:Big Jakey Carlisle looks close to the hardest to replace, for mine...bigcarl wrote:Let the guessing games begin. I say Jack Steven, a midfielder who can break away from packs. I'm not sure we have a replacement who can do it to the same degree.tony74 wrote:The one thing the club really tried to develop this year with their trading and drafting was a replacement foe each player and position ( whether through injury or management ) Think we've achieved that so really any changes shouldn't make much difference to the way we play. There is one player/position that we haven't got a ready made replacement. Let's hope he's durable.
I can't think of any other position we cannot cover adequately so long as the designated replacement isn't injured or otherwise unavailable.
Which is why my answer to Tony74 remains Jakey C.
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+1SuperDuper wrote:Big Jakey Carlisle looks close to the hardest to replace, for mine...bigcarl wrote:Let the guessing games begin. I say Jack Steven, a midfielder who can break away from packs. I'm not sure we have a replacement who can do it to the same degree.tony74 wrote:The one thing the club really tried to develop this year with their trading and drafting was a replacement foe each player and position ( whether through injury or management ) Think we've achieved that so really any changes shouldn't make much difference to the way we play. There is one player/position that we haven't got a ready made replacement. Let's hope he's durable.
I can't think of any other position we cannot cover adequately so long as the designated replacement isn't injured or otherwise unavailable.
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Who incidently didn't train todaySuperDuper wrote:yep, indeed he could.. but I would rate that the worst like for like exchange on our listbigcarl wrote:Josh Bruce can play chb and a Paddy can play ff.SuperDuper wrote:Big Jakey Carlisle looks close to the hardest to replace, for mine...bigcarl wrote:Let the guessing games begin. I say Jack Steven, a midfielder who can break away from packs. I'm not sure we have a replacement who can do it to the same degree.tony74 wrote:The one thing the club really tried to develop this year with their trading and drafting was a replacement foe each player and position ( whether through injury or management ) Think we've achieved that so really any changes shouldn't make much difference to the way we play. There is one player/position that we haven't got a ready made replacement. Let's hope he's durable.
I can't think of any other position we cannot cover adequately so long as the designated replacement isn't injured or otherwise unavailable.
Which is why my answer to Tony74 remains Jakey C.
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Hoping it's just part of their recovery. Maybe doing laps at a local pool or somethingtony74 wrote:Who incidently didn't train todaySuperDuper wrote:yep, indeed he could.. but I would rate that the worst like for like exchange on our listbigcarl wrote:Josh Bruce can play chb and a Paddy can play ff.SuperDuper wrote:Big Jakey Carlisle looks close to the hardest to replace, for mine...bigcarl wrote:Let the guessing games begin. I say Jack Steven, a midfielder who can break away from packs. I'm not sure we have a replacement who can do it to the same degree.tony74 wrote:The one thing the club really tried to develop this year with their trading and drafting was a replacement foe each player and position ( whether through injury or management ) Think we've achieved that so really any changes shouldn't make much difference to the way we play. There is one player/position that we haven't got a ready made replacement. Let's hope he's durable.
I can't think of any other position we cannot cover adequately so long as the designated replacement isn't injured or otherwise unavailable.
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Rooey and Jake to rest this week?????
So maybe three changes then!!!!!
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You don't rate Bruce? I think he can do that role, not in the same way that Carlisle does, but he can do it adequately.SuperDuper wrote:yep, indeed he could.. but I would rate that the worst like for like exchange on our listbigcarl wrote:Josh Bruce can play chb and a Paddy can play ff.SuperDuper wrote:Big Jakey Carlisle looks close to the hardest to replace, for mine...
Which is why my answer to Tony74 remains Jakey C.
Pretty certain Riewoldt can do it too, probably as good or better even at 34.
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Re: Changes for the Blues
Looking at our list we appear vulnerable if either Jake or Nathan Brown were to miss.
With Fisher and Dempsey retired we don't have another key defender on the list.
With Fisher and Dempsey retired we don't have another key defender on the list.
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