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No, he doesnt believe paddy had a poor game.BigMart wrote:What, you don't believe he only kicked 2?... seems to be the case?
Neither do I.
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Thanks to everyone with reports and comments.
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No 1 draft pick full forward kicks 2 goals in the VFL. Must have been best on ground then!kosifantutti wrote:I'm not sure who to believe here. I might stick with the people who watched the game.magnifisaint wrote:McCartin only 2 goals. Looks like he had a poor game
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Right now on form Meatball should be in the seniors instead of Billings and today's performance proved it. If Billings plays another another poor game tomorrow waiting for the ball to come to him, he should be dropped.
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http://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_page ... D=54494024SANDRINGHAM 11.12 (78) d ESSENDON 10.11 (71)
Telling facts: Darren Minchington (28 disposals) was the difference in the first half, kicking three of his four goals before half time to help the Zebras to a 34-point lead. The home team restricted Essendon to just one goal in the first half, before holding off a fast finishing Bombers’ side, as the visitors kicked seven of the last 11 goals in the game to fall short by seven points.
Leading goalkickers: Sandringham – Minchington 4, McCartin, Marshall, Wright 2 / Essendon – McKernan, J.Merrett 2
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I'm looking forward to your assessment of the rest of the team from the game you didn't see.magnifisaint wrote:No 1 draft pick full forward kicks 2 goals in the VFL. Must have been best on ground then!kosifantutti wrote:I'm not sure who to believe here. I might stick with the people who watched the game.magnifisaint wrote:McCartin only 2 goals. Looks like he had a poor game
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IMO Gresham is the proverbial ahead of "Meatball" and "Sincs" whose nicknames seem to attract a following
And I would trust that Billings and Freeman both leave them in their wake
Already ahead of them are Steven, Armitage, Ross, Dunstan, Acres, Steele, Montagna and Stevens
So that is 11 ahead of the VFL performers - and who do you drop to include them in the side?
Then we get a look at Long tomorrow and Lonie is still in the side, ahead of Wright
So they may be favourites and they may be AFL Stars in waiting in the opinion of some but the facts are that they are a long way down the list at St Kilda which is a good sign
Handy VFL footballers but they are at VFL level for a reason
Then we have a couple of First Round Draft Picks at season's end - and who we can attract to the Club
And I would trust that Billings and Freeman both leave them in their wake
Already ahead of them are Steven, Armitage, Ross, Dunstan, Acres, Steele, Montagna and Stevens
So that is 11 ahead of the VFL performers - and who do you drop to include them in the side?
Then we get a look at Long tomorrow and Lonie is still in the side, ahead of Wright
So they may be favourites and they may be AFL Stars in waiting in the opinion of some but the facts are that they are a long way down the list at St Kilda which is a good sign
Handy VFL footballers but they are at VFL level for a reason
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He was good. Certainly not poor but didn't dominate either. Took some very nice lead up marks outside the F50, but was triple teamed most times I50. He did bring the ball to ground a few times which helped the team. He crashed into a pack without looking and I thought he was going to hurt himself. He got up slowly and played the rest of the game unaffected.magnifisaint wrote:No 1 draft pick full forward kicks 2 goals in the VFL. Must have been best on ground then!kosifantutti wrote:I'm not sure who to believe here. I might stick with the people who watched the game.magnifisaint wrote:McCartin only 2 goals. Looks like he had a poor game
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My impressions
Paddy is almost too unselfish- saw him do it last week and again today- Rather than trust himself to kick the goal/ go long he will go for the pass.
Mckenzie seemed to be hit head high not once but twice
the 2 Irish lads did very well for their first serious hit out with Conollan coming of second best not once but twice from head high contact- they also have some synergy between themselves.
The Bombers played dirt- and got away with it- Billy in particular was rag dolled buy Mckernan repeatedly- elbows used regularly from many of their players.
Sandringham would benefit from the number of Bomber fans who turned out and the Players BBQ ran out midway during the last quarter.
Paddy is almost too unselfish- saw him do it last week and again today- Rather than trust himself to kick the goal/ go long he will go for the pass.
Mckenzie seemed to be hit head high not once but twice
the 2 Irish lads did very well for their first serious hit out with Conollan coming of second best not once but twice from head high contact- they also have some synergy between themselves.
The Bombers played dirt- and got away with it- Billy in particular was rag dolled buy Mckernan repeatedly- elbows used regularly from many of their players.
Sandringham would benefit from the number of Bomber fans who turned out and the Players BBQ ran out midway during the last quarter.
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saint-stu wrote:He was good. Certainly not poor but didn't dominate either. Took some very nice lead up marks outside the F50, but was triple teamed most times I50. He did bring the ball to ground a few times which helped the team. He crashed into a pack without looking and I thought he was going to hurt himself. He got up slowly and played the rest of the game unaffected.magnifisaint wrote:No 1 draft pick full forward kicks 2 goals in the VFL. Must have been best on ground then!kosifantutti wrote:I'm not sure who to believe here. I might stick with the people who watched the game.magnifisaint wrote:McCartin only 2 goals. Looks like he had a poor game
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Jade has performed a bit better than the other smaller... not by the proverbial, but a few effective touches a game.
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Pretty much agree with you bratty, although I think Paddy is trying too hard. He needs to be more relaxed and selfish.saintbrat wrote:My impressions
Paddy is almost too unselfish- saw him do it last week and again today- Rather than trust himself to kick the goal/ go long he will go for the pass.
Mckenzie seemed to be hit head high not once but twice
the 2 Irish lads did very well for their first serious hit out with Conollan coming of second best not once but twice from head high contact- they also have some synergy between themselves.
The Bombers played dirt- and got away with it- Billy in particular was rag dolled buy Mckernan repeatedly- elbows used regularly from many of their players.
Sandringham would benefit from the number of Bomber fans who turned out and the Players BBQ ran out midway during the last quarter.
Dmac had a concussion test in the first quarter and was hit again in the third.
The Irish boys are full on and do seem to look after each other. One was on his knees after a tackle when the other was coathangered. They both came off at the same time.
The rabble behind the northern goal were quite amusing. Glad they were paying customers.
Nobody really put their hand up for a game next week, except maybe Stevens.
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PaddyWhacka!!!!!BigMart wrote:What, you don't believe he only kicked 2?... seems to be the case?
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Just reporting, what I assumed were the facts? How many do you believe he kicked?
Honest truth,
On a beautiful day for forwards, I would have hoped our top draft pick (#1) from 3 years ago might tear a VFL backline a new arse?!
I watch a lot of VFL and generally when a quality kid, top end talent plays, the reality is, they take the piss
I've seen,
Ball, Dal, Joey, BJ, Armo, Jack, Tom L, Billings, Raph, Fisher, Milne all tear it up when they've lined up in what is to them, an inferior level
Even
Mini, Ferg, Geary, Minch, Lonie, Sincs, CJ
All consistently perform at a very high standard at the lower level
I hope Paddy does the same, as he should, he should really be head and shoulders above either young AFL or Average mature aged defenders.
Like it or not, he came with the tag... best 18yo player in the country in 2014
Honest truth,
On a beautiful day for forwards, I would have hoped our top draft pick (#1) from 3 years ago might tear a VFL backline a new arse?!
I watch a lot of VFL and generally when a quality kid, top end talent plays, the reality is, they take the piss
I've seen,
Ball, Dal, Joey, BJ, Armo, Jack, Tom L, Billings, Raph, Fisher, Milne all tear it up when they've lined up in what is to them, an inferior level
Even
Mini, Ferg, Geary, Minch, Lonie, Sincs, CJ
All consistently perform at a very high standard at the lower level
I hope Paddy does the same, as he should, he should really be head and shoulders above either young AFL or Average mature aged defenders.
Like it or not, he came with the tag... best 18yo player in the country in 2014
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Excellent!BigMart wrote:Just reporting, what I assumed were the facts? How many do you believe he kicked?
Honest truth,
On a beautiful day for forwards, I would have hoped our top draft pick (#1) from 3 years ago might tear a VFL backline a new arse?!
I watch a lot of VFL and generally when a quality kid, top end talent plays, the reality is, they take the piss
I've seen,
Ball, Dal, Joey, BJ, Armo, Jack, Tom L, Billings, Raph, Fisher, Milne all tear it up when they've lined up in what is to them, an inferior level
Even
Mini, Ferg, Geary, Minch, Lonie, Sincs, CJ
All consistently perform at a very high standard at the lower level
I hope Paddy does the same, as he should, he should really be head and shoulders above either young AFL or Average mature aged defenders.
Like it or not, he came with the tag... best 18yo player in the country in 2014
Another review of Paddy's performance from someone who didn't see the game.
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Assumed????? Exactly, watch a lot of VFL and still play footy as well as being an expert on St.Kilda, WOW, anything you carnt do?????
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Re: VFL Rd 1 Sandy vs Bombers
Your a joke to criticise a game you've never watched lolBigMart wrote:Just reporting, what I assumed were the facts? How many do you believe he kicked?
Honest truth,
On a beautiful day for forwards, I would have hoped our top draft pick (#1) from 3 years ago might tear a VFL backline a new arse?!
I watch a lot of VFL and generally when a quality kid, top end talent plays, the reality is, they take the piss
I've seen,
Ball, Dal, Joey, BJ, Armo, Jack, Tom L, Billings, Raph, Fisher, Milne all tear it up when they've lined up in what is to them, an inferior level
Even
Mini, Ferg, Geary, Minch, Lonie, Sincs, CJ
All consistently perform at a very high standard at the lower level
I hope Paddy does the same, as he should, he should really be head and shoulders above either young AFL or Average mature aged defenders.
Like it or not, he came with the tag... best 18yo player in the country in 2014
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It's You're a joke
That's okay, never resort to correcting people normally... I make errors, don't really proof?
Just didn't appreciate the comment
Please point out where I reviewed the game?
Just commented on the fact Paddy didn't have a big day in front of the sticks... 2 goals and read reviews of those who watched... sounds like he did ok? Doesn't sound like he dominated... like the players I alluded to did generally?
But, I was ACTUALLY referring to the numerous times I've seen Paddy play VFL
Anyways
That's okay, never resort to correcting people normally... I make errors, don't really proof?
Just didn't appreciate the comment
Please point out where I reviewed the game?
Just commented on the fact Paddy didn't have a big day in front of the sticks... 2 goals and read reviews of those who watched... sounds like he did ok? Doesn't sound like he dominated... like the players I alluded to did generally?
But, I was ACTUALLY referring to the numerous times I've seen Paddy play VFL
Anyways
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BigMart's right though, I was there, he really should be tearing it up, in those conditions, against a number of players playing their first competitive hit out, and especially so considering he was dropped. Good enough game/effort, but can't help but come away a little disappointed (as our number one pick) on this occasion. He looks massive now. Needs to throw his weight around more. Create fear.
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That's 16 saints listed players, not much chance of a game (number of places) if you are zebras listed player.millarsaint wrote:My wrap from second quarter to half way through last;
Paddy - not so hungry, took a couple of decent grabs, seemed to be double teamed, thought he busted his finger at one point
O'Kearney - noticeable, fluid footballer and brave, looks Monty like
Stevens - did some awesome things inside, so cluey and tough
Freeman - looks in good condition, didn't see his explosive pace, but moved well through dense traffic, got into good positions
Joyce and Connellan - combined brilliantly in one passage of play coming out of defence. Another; Connellan took great chest mark on wing and burst past an opponent to left foot kick to Wright for easy goal top of the square. If he's not a left footer it was a brilliant kick at top speed, because it was a good kick anyway.
Marshall - got involved a lot and used his height, just didn't hold as many as he should have
Wright - seemed ok
Minchington - brilliant footballer, good game
Longer - serviceable
Battle - after a good mark missed a sitter, a little quiet
Phillips - if I'm getting him right I thought he was solid. Reminded me of Seb, impressed, and looks good size too
White - did one passage of play out of defence that was brilliant, looks sensational on the gallop and in the air
Sinclair - seemed to be in among it a lot of the time, some strong tackling
McKenzie - did some nice things, worked hard
Rice - thought he was great to watch, looks the real deal, composed and thick set, assured type of player, closes in nicely
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Geez I wonder if he played midfield. Must have considering he didn't get too close to the goal posts.kosifantutti wrote:I'm looking forward to your assessment of the rest of the team from the game you didn't see.magnifisaint wrote:No 1 draft pick full forward kicks 2 goals in the VFL. Must have been best on ground then!kosifantutti wrote:I'm not sure who to believe here. I might stick with the people who watched the game.magnifisaint wrote:McCartin only 2 goals. Looks like he had a poor game
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