Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this????
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
We Don't need Key Forwards, We need midfielders so the forwards we currently have can Develop at a faster Rate. We've got Key Forwards all in the Right age bracket coming through.
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
Firstly Boyd may never have wanted to come to the club and secondly maybe we looked at him and said he may not be what we require and thirdly we may still be in the running to get Boyd and finally maybe we realise the game is now run by mids and then if the mids don't work out you get more mids and if they stuff up you then go out and get even more mids. Our mids are no where near good enough at the moment to make Boyd to look any better than Liam Jones.
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3602
- Joined: Wed 14 May 2014 7:45pm
- Been thanked: 1 time
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
plugger66 wrote:Firstly Boyd may never have wanted to come to the club and secondly maybe we looked at him and said he may not be what we require and thirdly we may still be in the running to get Boyd and finally maybe we realise the game is now run by mids and then if the mids don't work out you get more mids and if they stuff up you then go out and get even more mids. Our mids are no where near good enough at the moment to make Boyd to look any better than Liam Jones.
For gods sake P66 will you stop bring facts into this?
4 mill for three years to a bloke who will catch cold in our forward line because we wont have the mids to get it to him.
Boyd is a terrific player, but the facts are.
1) GWS said no trade under any circumstances
2) way overs by a club who is desperate to look like they are not in crisis
3) Saints have other fish to fry
You are garbage - Enough said
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 12421
- Joined: Tue 24 Mar 2009 11:05pm
- Location: St Kilda
- Has thanked: 296 times
- Been thanked: 55 times
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
We have said we will negotiate a trade if GWS are interested including pick 1 being up for grabs according to Harf time on SEN. Bulldogs might need to offer Griffin and their first pick. Boyd was incredible at TAC level. I watched a game he played in and he is dominant. Great long straight kick and really big strong marking forward. Think a better Tippett mixed with a better Tom Hawkins. In a few years he should dominate. I would do Armo and pick 1 for him and a fringer from GWS.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4642
- Joined: Thu 22 Sep 2005 11:17am
- Has thanked: 3 times
- Been thanked: 4 times
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
St Chris wrote:How did we miss this opportunity???
We bent over backwards to get him (thru Pick 1) last year, how could we not be on the pulse??
Maybe he doesn't want to come to us. Maybe they offered much more money. Maybe they are prepared to get shafted on $$ and we aren't. Maybe we don't know sh1t?
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
gringo wrote:We have said we will negotiate a trade if GWS are interested including pick 1 being up for grabs according to Harf time on SEN. Bulldogs might need to offer Griffin and their first pick. Boyd was incredible at TAC level. I watched a game he played in and he is dominant. Great long straight kick and really big strong marking forward. Think a better Tippett mixed with a better Tom Hawkins. In a few years he should dominate. I would do Armo and pick 1 for him and a fringer from GWS.
I hope they take no notice of you.
- Con Gorozidis
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23532
- Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
- Has thanked: 100 times
- Been thanked: 78 times
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
Does anyone else find Peter Gordon's ramblings annoying?
He just talks utter s*** with endless cliches. Why is he even crapping on about trades anyway?
He just talks utter s*** with endless cliches. Why is he even crapping on about trades anyway?
- Dr Spaceman
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 14102
- Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2009 11:07pm
- Location: Newtown Institute of Saintology
- Has thanked: 104 times
- Been thanked: 62 times
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
Nice little piece from AkermanisCon Gorozidis wrote:Does anyone else find Peter Gordon's ramblings annoying?
He just talks utter s*** with endless cliches. Why is he even crapping on about trades anyway?
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
http://thenewdaily.com.au/sport/2014/10 ... -bulldogs/
- Dave McNamara
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5709
- Joined: Wed 21 Sep 2011 2:44pm
- Location: Slotting another one from 94.5m out. Opposition flood? Bring it on...! Keep the faith Saintas!
- Has thanked: 80 times
- Been thanked: 74 times
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
Stop talking sense.Legendary wrote:Don't mind this - Boyd hasn't yet proved himself - certainly, he's no Cameron, and he could be a Koschitzke.
We are not yet ready to be making big plays for these guys. 2016/2017 we can make a Buddy Franklin-type offer to the best forward in the comp. The Dogs are 2 years closer than we are with their list, so they are in the frame now.
More importantly, any trade involving Boyd would leave GWS with all their picks available, and even more likely to try and obtain pick #1.
So it's to our advantage.
Anyhow, I can't see GWS releasing Boyd from his contract, so I don't think anything will come from this.
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
It's Dave, man. Will you open up? I got the stuff with me! -------Who?
Dave, man. Open up ------------------------------------------ -----Dave???
Yeah, Dave. ---------------------------------------------------------Dave's not here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOiG1hAr ... detailpage
![Mr. Green :mrgreen:](./images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
Dave, man. Open up ------------------------------------------ -----Dave???
Yeah, Dave. ---------------------------------------------------------Dave's not here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOiG1hAr ... detailpage
![Mr. Green :mrgreen:](./images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 2622
- Joined: Thu 29 Sep 2011 9:45pm
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
It seems closer to the truth than not.Dr Spaceman wrote:Nice little piece from AkermanisCon Gorozidis wrote:Does anyone else find Peter Gordon's ramblings annoying?
He just talks utter s*** with endless cliches. Why is he even crapping on about trades anyway?![]()
http://thenewdaily.com.au/sport/2014/10 ... -bulldogs/
How about the Dogs completely whacking McCartney on the way out? Something along the lines of McCartney being a great development coach however not a coach to lead them going forward...ummmm....what?
Our club continues to make terrible decisions over a prolonged period however sheesh...what a bunch of pricks and a boys club made up for average players that carried themselves higher despite playing for a crappy club.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4661
- Joined: Thu 28 Dec 2006 8:34am
- Location: Jurassic Park
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
Personally all I can see a crackdown from the AFL to make players honour their contracts a bit more, seems a lot of players, and young players at that are spitting the dummy and wanting out just because of minor things. This will not be good for the game or teams like us.
Except for the sanity nothing much has been lost.
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3856
- Joined: Fri 16 Sep 2011 2:41pm
- Has thanked: 419 times
- Been thanked: 237 times
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
Someone must be ghost writing for him. That piece is actually comprehensible.Dr Spaceman wrote:Nice little piece from AkermanisCon Gorozidis wrote:Does anyone else find Peter Gordon's ramblings annoying?
He just talks utter s*** with endless cliches. Why is he even crapping on about trades anyway?![]()
http://thenewdaily.com.au/sport/2014/10 ... -bulldogs/
![Cool 8-)](./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif)
Always loyal
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
3rd generation saint wrote:Personally all I can see a crackdown from the AFL to make players honour their contracts a bit more, seems a lot of players, and young players at that are spitting the dummy and wanting out just because of minor things. This will not be good for the game or teams like us.
Its seems that most wanting to break contracts are actually going to the clubs lower on the ladder. I don't know how you can stop it anyway.
- Wayne42
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4911
- Joined: Mon 24 Jun 2013 10:27pm
- Has thanked: 619 times
- Been thanked: 558 times
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
GWS will end up worse than Melbourne if they keep losing their elite players, in fact, they could end up in a bidding war with North for all the old blokes.
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
Perhaps this is the strategy - drive up the Boyd price and then fleece GWS of that pick toogringo wrote:We have said we will negotiate a trade if GWS are interested including pick 1 being up for grabs according to Harf time on SEN. Bulldogs might need to offer Griffin and their first pick. Boyd was incredible at TAC level. I watched a game he played in and he is dominant. Great long straight kick and really big strong marking forward. Think a better Tippett mixed with a better Tom Hawkins. In a few years he should dominate. I would do Armo and pick 1 for him and a fringer from GWS.
Faithful Even Unto Death
- Con Gorozidis
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23532
- Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
- Has thanked: 100 times
- Been thanked: 78 times
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
Pick 6 plus Griffen to gws seems fair.
Then gws can send us pick pick 4 and 6 for pick 1.
Gws still end up with griff patful and petracca. Fair off season.
Then gws can send us pick pick 4 and 6 for pick 1.
Gws still end up with griff patful and petracca. Fair off season.
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3353
- Joined: Wed 12 Sep 2007 5:30pm
- Has thanked: 169 times
- Been thanked: 516 times
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
Lets be more aggressive if they really want Petrecca, wait until Carlton deal for Jascke done and go 1 and 20 for 4,6,7.Con Gorozidis wrote:Pick 6 plus Griffen to gws seems fair.
Then gws can send us pick pick 4 and 6 for pick 1.
Gws still end up with griff patful and petracca. Fair off season.
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
older saint wrote:Lets be more aggressive if they really want Petrecca, wait until Carlton deal for Jascke done and go 1 and 20 for 4,6,7.Con Gorozidis wrote:Pick 6 plus Griffen to gws seems fair.
Then gws can send us pick pick 4 and 6 for pick 1.
Gws still end up with griff patful and petracca. Fair off season.
We wont get 3 top 10 picks for pick one even if we through in 20.
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
Definately wishful thinking!plugger66 wrote:older saint wrote:Lets be more aggressive if they really want Petrecca, wait until Carlton deal for Jascke done and go 1 and 20 for 4,6,7.Con Gorozidis wrote:Pick 6 plus Griffen to gws seems fair.
Then gws can send us pick pick 4 and 6 for pick 1.
Gws still end up with griff patful and petracca. Fair off season.
We wont get 3 top 10 picks for pick one even if we through in 20.
- Con Gorozidis
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23532
- Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
- Has thanked: 100 times
- Been thanked: 78 times
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
Aker's head will explode if Scotty West get the Dogs coaching jobSemperFidelis wrote:Someone must be ghost writing for him. That piece is actually comprehensible.Dr Spaceman wrote:Nice little piece from AkermanisCon Gorozidis wrote:Does anyone else find Peter Gordon's ramblings annoying?
He just talks utter s*** with endless cliches. Why is he even crapping on about trades anyway?![]()
http://thenewdaily.com.au/sport/2014/10 ... -bulldogs/
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-pre ... 7086918153
- Austinnn
- Club Player
- Posts: 1533
- Joined: Wed 22 Jun 2011 6:02pm
- Location: France
- Has thanked: 2 times
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
I read that and his point that clubs who want to change their culture shouldn't employ past players lingered a little in my head. It certainly seems logical. Personally I'm always suspicious of any ex-player getting important jobs in club set up. Corporate strategy is very different from on field strategy. They may be able to do the job, but are they really the best for that actual position. I suppose it's a trade off for the increased loyalty and motivation.Dr Spaceman wrote:Nice little piece from Akermanis![]()
http://thenewdaily.com.au/sport/2014/10 ... -bulldogs/
Let's hope our past players take the club where it needs to go. So far it's about even I'd suggest. Perhaps a bit better.
Just My Opinion
------------------------------------------------
You'll Never Walk Alone
------------------------------------------------
You'll Never Walk Alone
- Con Gorozidis
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23532
- Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
- Has thanked: 100 times
- Been thanked: 78 times
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
We dont actually have that many in positions of power if you look at itAustinnn wrote:I read that and his point that clubs who want to change their culture shouldn't employ past players lingered a little in my head. It certainly seems logical. Personally I'm always suspicious of any ex-player getting important jobs in club set up. Corporate strategy is very different from on field strategy. They may be able to do the job, but are they really the best for that actual position. I suppose it's a trade off for the increased loyalty and motivation.Dr Spaceman wrote:Nice little piece from Akermanis![]()
http://thenewdaily.com.au/sport/2014/10 ... -bulldogs/
Let's hope our past players take the club where it needs to go. So far it's about even I'd suggest. Perhaps a bit better.
http://www.saints.com.au/the-club/people/board
Ok Burkey and Andrew Thompson clearly fit into the 'ex-player' category but thats about it.
Pelchen - No
AR - No
Finnis - No
Bains - No
Kingsley - No
Luke Beveridge - Kind of - but I wouldnt say he was really part of ex Saints player mates club.
- Austinnn
- Club Player
- Posts: 1533
- Joined: Wed 22 Jun 2011 6:02pm
- Location: France
- Has thanked: 2 times
Re: Boyd requests trade to Bulldogs - How did we miss this??
Burke and Thompson are whom I was referring to. They make up a third of the board if I'm not mistaken? Bevo has gone elsewhere and come back so hopefully he's a bit less insulated. I dunno, I'm probably being paranoid.
Just My Opinion
------------------------------------------------
You'll Never Walk Alone
------------------------------------------------
You'll Never Walk Alone