Richmond inquires about Armo

[stinger]

According to Trade Radio, Richmond may offer up pick 11 for Armitage. That's overs IMO so will be very interesting if true...

unders you mean...ffs....flower the tigers..

[plugger66]

According to Trade Radio, Richmond may offer up pick 11 for Armitage. That's overs IMO so will be very interesting if true...

unders you mean...ffs....flower the tigers..

Well its certainly not unders and is pretty much well over.

[Bunk_Moreland]

According to Trade Radio, Richmond may offer up pick 11 for Armitage. That's overs IMO so will be very interesting if true...

unders you mean...ffs....flower the tigers..

Well its certainly not unders and is pretty much well over.

And not happening

[stinger]

3.12pm: Ameet Bains tells Trade Radio there's "nothing to discuss" on David Armitage. He is contracted and not going anywhere

thank god for that...phew....worried there for a moment....

[stinger]

According to Trade Radio, Richmond may offer up pick 11 for Armitage. That's overs IMO so will be very interesting if true...

unders you mean...ffs....flower the tigers..

Well its certainly not unders and is pretty much well over.

And not happening

plugga would not have a clue......top ten pick in the first place...a club leader and a future captain....tough as old boots...if pick 4 is not enough for dane beams...then pick 11 is certainly not enough for armo......

[Bunk_Moreland]

Bains - almost chose Membrey a couple of years back

Quite a few clubs discussed #1 - most clubs reasonable and respectful

Jaksch - hopeful, preference is Carlton, one thing club of choice not alway the place a player you get to

JOR - hopeful

Petracca? - Him and McCartin looked at closely

Jack Steven - ongoing discussions for 2 -3 months about contract extension.

Armo - required player him and Steven to be our midfield leaders. Not one club raised his name

Milera - discussions with Port and Adelaide - continuing discussions.

So Jack and Armo not on the table and never was

[stinger]

Bains - almost chose Membrey a couple of years back

Quite a few clubs discussed #1 - most clubs reasonable and respectful

Jaksch - hopeful, preference is Carlton, one thing club of choice not alway the place a player you get to

JOR - hopeful

Petracca? - Him and McCartin looked at closely

Jack Steven - ongoing discussions for 2 -3 months about contract extension.

Armo - required player him and Steven to be our midfield leaders. Not one club raised his name

Milera - discussions with Port and Adelaide - continuing discussions.

So Jack and Armo not on the table and never was

good to hear...

[Bunk_Moreland]

Bains - almost chose Membrey a couple of years back

Quite a few clubs discussed #1 - most clubs reasonable and respectful

Jaksch - hopeful, preference is Carlton, one thing club of choice not alway the place a player you get to

JOR - hopeful

Petracca? - Him and McCartin looked at closely

Jack Steven - ongoing discussions for 2 -3 months about contract extension.

Armo - required player him and Steven to be our midfield leaders. Not one club raised his name

Milera - discussions with Port and Adelaide - continuing discussions.

So Jack and Armo not on the table and never was

good to hear...

yes all pretty positive so far

[saintbrat]

https://soundcloud.com/#sen1116/ameet-b ... e-run-home

[remboy]

Armo - required player him and Steven to be our midfield leaders. Not one club raised his name

He also said that we never mentioned his name so I'm not sure where the pick 11 stuff came from. Probably the same as many other trade rumours that we'll hear over the next few days.

[Rosco]

Didn't meet with all clubs today

"St Kilda confirms it will meet with Fremantle, Gold Coast, GWS, West Coast, Adelaide, Port Adelaide, Melbourne and Carlton this afternoon."

[ace]

Just so everyone knows.
As a result of Melbourne getting pick No 3 as compensation for losing James Frawley as a free agent, Richmond now has pick No 12.
So it would be pick 12 for Armitage.

[matrix]

gee whizz youd have to seriously consider it

[saintbrat]

gee whizz youd have to seriously consider it

It is NOT beuing considered and NO club has even asked...

[st_Trav_ofWA]

Firstly I would completely doubt pick 11 for Armo. maybe its a player and their second pick. However if it is pick 11 it is way over so the simple thing is to trade him but again it isn't that simple. If we lose Lenny and Armo, Jack will be sat on as we have no other players worth even looking at tagging. Our midfield will be smashed and thus our forwards smashed and the side is then smashed. We were beaten in a lot of games this year byt big margins but they will look close games if we lose Armo. Can the club afford not win a game and be smashed every week. Can the young forwards afford to hardly get a kick and lose confidence. Can the club afford to lose even more members and maybe sponsors.

I don't have an answer but it isn't as simple as yes because of those reasons. Still doubt 11 is anywhere on the table so case closed.

look i think its pretty obvious its not happening but theres something in your post that has me thinking ... you say if we traded out Armo we would get killed each week and lose members/sponsors blah blah the sky is falling ...
What happens if Armo does and ACL in round one ?

i agree Armo is important but i think you may be over stating his importance just a tad ... he is a strong leader and a very good player but he is no Roo when it comes to the clubs marketability to both members and sponsors .. in the end we will prob only win 3 games tops next year thats with or without armo so if a club is going to be crazy to offer a first round pick for him we would take it every day of the week if it was a pick in the 20's then no deal as there is no point trading him for a fair trade but if we are getting over the top overs for him we would be mad not to take it ..

[plugger66]

Firstly I would completely doubt pick 11 for Armo. maybe its a player and their second pick. However if it is pick 11 it is way over so the simple thing is to trade him but again it isn't that simple. If we lose Lenny and Armo, Jack will be sat on as we have no other players worth even looking at tagging. Our midfield will be smashed and thus our forwards smashed and the side is then smashed. We were beaten in a lot of games this year byt big margins but they will look close games if we lose Armo. Can the club afford not win a game and be smashed every week. Can the young forwards afford to hardly get a kick and lose confidence. Can the club afford to lose even more members and maybe sponsors.

I don't have an answer but it isn't as simple as yes because of those reasons. Still doubt 11 is anywhere on the table so case closed.

look i think its pretty obvious its not happening but theres something in your post that has me thinking ... you say if we traded out Armo we would get killed each week and lose members/sponsors blah blah the sky is falling ...
What happens if Armo does and ACL in round one ?

i agree Armo is important but i think you may be over stating his importance just a tad ... he is a strong leader and a very good player but he is no Roo when it comes to the clubs marketability to both members and sponsors .. in the end we will prob only win 3 games tops next year thats with or without armo so if a club is going to be crazy to offer a first round pick for him we would take it every day of the week if it was a pick in the 20's then no deal as there is no point trading him for a fair trade but if we are getting over the top overs for him we would be mad not to take it ..

Anyone can get injured but not everyone is deliberately traded. And I was talking about losing members and sponsors not because we got rid of Armo, I was saying it because without both Lenny and Armo I would suggest we wouldn't win a game next season and the thrashings would make this years results look close. I didn't rule it out apart from the fact it isn't happening, I was just pointing out sometimes its not just about getting great picks.

[crippsy]

Interesting how other clubs and other clubs fans rate armo and saints supporters dont.

Richmond would be getting a steal No Deal. ..

[saintbrat]

Interesting how other clubs and other clubs fans rate armo and saints supporters dont.

Richmond would be getting a steal No Deal. ..

they are now aiming for a non injected bomber.. Winderlich

[lefty]

Armo is our grunt, and is a WAYYYY better kick than Jack Steven. I don't think I'd trade him out, we need guys like him, you need the grunt.

[SydneySainter]

If in the unlikely event that pick 11 was actually on offer for Armo, I'd say it would come down to two things -

If Armo wanted to go to Richmond and there was nothing the club could say to change his mind, pick 11 is more than fair compensation.

If Armo wants to stay, then it's no deal. He's a required player and our midfield needs at least one tough, hard nut who can win the footy.

[st_Trav_ofWA]

Firstly I would completely doubt pick 11 for Armo. maybe its a player and their second pick. However if it is pick 11 it is way over so the simple thing is to trade him but again it isn't that simple. If we lose Lenny and Armo, Jack will be sat on as we have no other players worth even looking at tagging. Our midfield will be smashed and thus our forwards smashed and the side is then smashed. We were beaten in a lot of games this year byt big margins but they will look close games if we lose Armo. Can the club afford not win a game and be smashed every week. Can the young forwards afford to hardly get a kick and lose confidence. Can the club afford to lose even more members and maybe sponsors.

I don't have an answer but it isn't as simple as yes because of those reasons. Still doubt 11 is anywhere on the table so case closed.

look i think its pretty obvious its not happening but theres something in your post that has me thinking ... you say if we traded out Armo we would get killed each week and lose members/sponsors blah blah the sky is falling ...
What happens if Armo does and ACL in round one ?

i agree Armo is important but i think you may be over stating his importance just a tad ... he is a strong leader and a very good player but he is no Roo when it comes to the clubs marketability to both members and sponsors .. in the end we will prob only win 3 games tops next year thats with or without armo so if a club is going to be crazy to offer a first round pick for him we would take it every day of the week if it was a pick in the 20's then no deal as there is no point trading him for a fair trade but if we are getting over the top overs for him we would be mad not to take it ..

Anyone can get injured but not everyone is deliberately traded. And I was talking about losing members and sponsors not because we got rid of Armo, I was saying it because without both Lenny and Armo I would suggest we wouldn't win a game next season and the thrashings would make this years results look close. I didn't rule it out apart from the fact it isn't happening, I was just pointing out sometimes its not just about getting great picks.

thats correct anyone can get injured and as it stands next year with or without armo we will struggle to win a game - with or without Armo we are going to have some ugly ugly losses - Armo is a good player no doubt but he is not the differance between a 100 loss and a 30 point loss against a red hot Hawthorn... if the deal is heavily in our favour then we gotta take it if its only a fair trade then no its worth more to us to keep him ..

[Johnny Member]

I'm already concerned about the amount of concussions that Dunstan had in his first year. I think he had 3 didn't he? Dangerous for a first year player in terms of his longevity.

So we need a guy like Armo to do the heavy lifting and grunt work inside to take the heat off a guy like Dunstan.


Having said that, pick 11 is some serious bait! I'd doubt it's true.

[Moods]

I reckon we have to draw a line at some point. Yes everyone's tradeable, but at the right price. For mine the right price would be Armo for Ollie Wines, or even Armo for Redden. Not Armo for a pick. Even a bloody good pick.

As many have mentioned - no point stockpiling a team full of promising youngsters if you have no-one to guide that ship. The best youngsters generally develop to their max potential if they have a competitive team around them with some good hard senior heads. I was concerned about Billings this year and the hit on his confidence some of the thumpings seemed to take. Melbourne are a classic example of a team who threw the baby out with the bath water and are still floundering 5 years on. Please don't let that be us.

[plugger66]

Firstly I would completely doubt pick 11 for Armo. maybe its a player and their second pick. However if it is pick 11 it is way over so the simple thing is to trade him but again it isn't that simple. If we lose Lenny and Armo, Jack will be sat on as we have no other players worth even looking at tagging. Our midfield will be smashed and thus our forwards smashed and the side is then smashed. We were beaten in a lot of games this year byt big margins but they will look close games if we lose Armo. Can the club afford not win a game and be smashed every week. Can the young forwards afford to hardly get a kick and lose confidence. Can the club afford to lose even more members and maybe sponsors.

I don't have an answer but it isn't as simple as yes because of those reasons. Still doubt 11 is anywhere on the table so case closed.

look i think its pretty obvious its not happening but theres something in your post that has me thinking ... you say if we traded out Armo we would get killed each week and lose members/sponsors blah blah the sky is falling ...
What happens if Armo does and ACL in round one ?

i agree Armo is important but i think you may be over stating his importance just a tad ... he is a strong leader and a very good player but he is no Roo when it comes to the clubs marketability to both members and sponsors .. in the end we will prob only win 3 games tops next year thats with or without armo so if a club is going to be crazy to offer a first round pick for him we would take it every day of the week if it was a pick in the 20's then no deal as there is no point trading him for a fair trade but if we are getting over the top overs for him we would be mad not to take it ..

Anyone can get injured but not everyone is deliberately traded. And I was talking about losing members and sponsors not because we got rid of Armo, I was saying it because without both Lenny and Armo I would suggest we wouldn't win a game next season and the thrashings would make this years results look close. I didn't rule it out apart from the fact it isn't happening, I was just pointing out sometimes its not just about getting great picks.

thats correct anyone can get injured and as it stands next year with or without armo we will struggle to win a game - with or without Armo we are going to have some ugly ugly losses - Armo is a good player no doubt but he is not the differance between a 100 loss and a 30 point loss against a red hot Hawthorn... if the deal is heavily in our favour then we gotta take it if its only a fair trade then no its worth more to us to keep him ..

Well if that's the case why not get rid of jack as well. Would probably get a top 8 pick.

[st_Trav_ofWA]

look Jack would be worth a first round pick in a fair trade and as i said when trading your best players you dont want fair you want overs so yeah if we got offered pick 2 for Jack then i would take it if it was pick 17 then no you wouldnt take it ..

this whole Trade/Draft period we are not looking at how its going to impact the results of 2015 we are bigger picture thinking.. this year has shown we are the worst team in the comp and its fair to say even if everything stayed the same we would still be the worst team in the comp so if we weaken our already weak side for next year for a potential gun for 2017/18 so be it ... we are at the very back it makes little difference if we come last by % or if we come last by a couple of games and % we still come last next year but entering season 2018 with a blue chip team of great players no one will give a second though to the 100 point losses of 2014 and 2015 ...