You must be confusing me with someone else, that is pure fiction, I never wrote anything of the sort!st_Trav_ofWA wrote:ummm barks hinesite is a great thing but i do remember at the time of that draft asking the forum do they believe if Jack was available at pick 9 should we take him ... overwhelming responce from even you was that we shouldnt draft Jack because it was only his last name that people were getting worked up about and we should be focused on the best midfeilder for that first pick ... considering at the time we had a cupboard full of tall forwards yet were running low on mids ....barks4eva wrote:Yes because we all know KOSI is the answer!SainterK wrote:I think it's hugely significant.
Keeping in mind the forward line is missing Kosi and Schnieder.
The thing that's significant is we overlooked Jack Riewoldt and drafted Armitage instead
Which buffoon was responsible for that premiership costing decision?
Westaway must go!
Such a great thing happened tonight, massive improvement!
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Re: Such a great thing happened tonight, massive improvement
They weren't last night, though. They were very ordinary, and we had them on toast.st_Trav_ofWA wrote:they still have 12 guys with two premiership medals in the side ... yes they were weaker then the geelong of old hence why Scott went defensive against us instead of the normal geelong run and gun approch ...Con Gorozidis wrote:love ur positivity.SainterK wrote:Inside 50's
We had 52 of them, 52
Let that sink in, even with McEvoy/Blake in the ruck.
52 inside 50's, as opposed to multiple 30 somethings in the finals series last year.
One of our major problems last year was inside 50's and midfielders pushing forward and having shots on goal.
10 midfielders had shots on goals, we went inside 50+ times.
Roo of course had no chance to make the most of the entries, but that is a seperate issue and one that will need to be rectified.
This is so significant, especially against a good side against Geelong.
except geelong aint good anymore. ablett, chappy, selwood ling out. they are mediocre now at best. and the amount of 3 on 1's in our fwd line was just appalling. undermines the inside 50 stats. made them meaningless.
dont discount Geelong are still a very strong side ...
YOU GET WHAT YOU SETTLE FOR.
Apology accepted.barks4eva wrote:Ok I apologize for any perceived rudeness, I didn't mean for you to take it personally, but surely you cannot be serious?SainterK wrote:The word that came to mind is rude, people offer a perspective and get personal and attacking replies.
We play like that for the rest of the year, we won't make top four and it will be yet again another wasted year regardless of how many inside 50's we rack up!
I'm allowed to disagree though.
Match was lost at the selection table.
Roo, Blake, Milne and Gamble was never going to cut it.
Thought Gamble was supposed to be as well as two talls / two smalls, not in place of a tall.
Personally I hope the forward line structure is addressed, and not too much is changed about giving them more opportunity.
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thanksSainterK wrote:Apology accepted.barks4eva wrote:Ok I apologize for any perceived rudeness, I didn't mean for you to take it personally, but surely you cannot be serious?SainterK wrote:The word that came to mind is rude, people offer a perspective and get personal and attacking replies.
We play like that for the rest of the year, we won't make top four and it will be yet again another wasted year regardless of how many inside 50's we rack up!
I'm allowed to disagree though.
Match was lost at the selection table.
Roo, Blake, Milne and Gamble was never going to cut it.
Thought Gamble was supposed to be as well as two talls / two smalls, not in place of a tall.
Personally I hope the forward line structure is addressed, and not too much is changed about giving them more opportunity.
IMO we really need to play some kids and quicken the team up
Steven should be an automatic replacement for McQualter
Ledger, Cripps, Crocker, Lynch, Winmar, Stanley, etc... whoever puts their hand up play them, not all at once but give them an opportunity and see who takes it
we need to introduce some pace and new young talent quick smart and not leave it until round 20
Re: Such a great thing happened tonight, massive improvement
Well, signs of our new GP were there again this weekSainterK wrote:Inside 50's
We had 52 of them, 52
Let that sink in, even with McEvoy/Blake in the ruck.
52 inside 50's, as opposed to multiple 30 somethings in the finals series last year.
One of our major problems last year was inside 50's and midfielders pushing forward and having shots on goal.
10 midfielders had shots on goals, we went inside 50+ times.
Roo of course had no chance to make the most of the entries, but that is a seperate issue and one that will need to be rectified.
This is so significant, especially against a good side against Geelong.
Heaps of entries, the delivery actually improved, given we had 30 scoring shots.
I say we persist at it, the football world hasn't exactly noticed that the gameplan has changed, but we are progressing.
I really feel last year we had the forward structure almost right, they were just starved of opportunity.
Hopefully this week we see the return of Kosi and Schneider, with one of Gamble/Lynch as a third option, and we see how they go with this kind of entry.
Oh, and 8 non traditional forwards made efforts to contribute to the scoreboard again. If they persist, with all of 5 forwards also having their fair share, we are well on track to be less one dimensional.
Re: Such a great thing happened tonight, massive improvement
Can I indulge in a bump?SainterK wrote:Well, signs of our new GP were there again this weekSainterK wrote:Inside 50's
We had 52 of them, 52
Let that sink in, even with McEvoy/Blake in the ruck.
52 inside 50's, as opposed to multiple 30 somethings in the finals series last year.
One of our major problems last year was inside 50's and midfielders pushing forward and having shots on goal.
10 midfielders had shots on goals, we went inside 50+ times.
Roo of course had no chance to make the most of the entries, but that is a seperate issue and one that will need to be rectified.
This is so significant, especially against a good side against Geelong.
Heaps of entries, the delivery actually improved, given we had 30 scoring shots.
I say we persist at it, the football world hasn't exactly noticed that the gameplan has changed, but we are progressing.
I really feel last year we had the forward structure almost right, they were just starved of opportunity.
Hopefully this week we see the return of Kosi and Schneider, with one of Gamble/Lynch as a third option, and we see how they go with this kind of entry.
Oh, and 8 non traditional forwards made efforts to contribute to the scoreboard again. If they persist, with all of 5 forwards also having their fair share, we are well on track to be less one dimensional.
We have been witnessing transition footy, nothing surer.
Credit to them for persisting at it, and not giving up.
More inside 50's, more contributors to the scoreboard, and a willingness to play on makes for a very different style...
All this while combining a healthy defensive nature.
Can I say there is signs we may of finally got the balance right between attack and defence?
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Re: Such a great thing happened tonight, massive improvement
It was a super effort today, admittedly against a soft opponent.
Quick movement of the ball and hard at every contest. Very encouraging.
Pity the season started so badly because we could really do some damage if we were to make the finals. The injuries are a worry though
Quick movement of the ball and hard at every contest. Very encouraging.
Pity the season started so badly because we could really do some damage if we were to make the finals. The injuries are a worry though
Bump!
So what do people think about the balance now?
I think the defence is as solid as it can be, and there has certainly been more of an attempt to play on and score more, with more a varied spread of goal kickers.
I would love to know after the half way point in the season, where St Kilda rank for goals for and against, anyone have access to that?
So what do people think about the balance now?
I think the defence is as solid as it can be, and there has certainly been more of an attempt to play on and score more, with more a varied spread of goal kickers.
I would love to know after the half way point in the season, where St Kilda rank for goals for and against, anyone have access to that?
We came 6th.SainterK wrote:Bump!
So what do people think about the balance now?
I think the defence is as solid as it can be, and there has certainly been more of an attempt to play on and score more, with more a varied spread of goal kickers.
I would love to know after the half way point in the season, where St Kilda rank for goals for and against, anyone have access to that?
This means we have next to no chance of winning the flag.
Lance or James??
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There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
Really?joffaboy wrote:We came 6th.SainterK wrote:Bump!
So what do people think about the balance now?
I think the defence is as solid as it can be, and there has certainly been more of an attempt to play on and score more, with more a varied spread of goal kickers.
I would love to know after the half way point in the season, where St Kilda rank for goals for and against, anyone have access to that?
This means we have next to no chance of winning the flag.
I thought it would be better than that, especially for defence, so we're ranked 6th for goals for and against for the last half of the season?
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Solid bump there, K!
Well picked out in the FIRST ROUND for crying out loud.
That makes you two from two with your prediction about Dempster stepping up into the core group (I actually think he has become our most important rebounding defender this year, with the absence of Gwilt and drop off in form of Gilbert)
Well picked out in the FIRST ROUND for crying out loud.
That makes you two from two with your prediction about Dempster stepping up into the core group (I actually think he has become our most important rebounding defender this year, with the absence of Gwilt and drop off in form of Gilbert)
I dont care about meaningless stats, we came sixth on the H&A ladder meaning no double chance and no chance of winning a flag.SainterK wrote:joffaboy wrote:We came 6th.SainterK wrote:Bump!
So what do people think about the balance now?
I think the defence is as solid as it can be, and there has certainly been more of an attempt to play on and score more, with more a varied spread of goal kickers.
I would love to know after the half way point in the season, where St Kilda rank for goals for and against, anyone have access to that?
This means we have next to no chance of winning the flag.
Really?
I thought it would be better than that, especially for defence, so we're ranked 6th for goals for and against for the last half of the season?
Lance or James??
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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That's a very simplistic way of looking at it. Are your lotto numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 by any chance?joffaboy wrote:I dont care about meaningless stats, we came sixth on the H&A ladder meaning no double chance and no chance of winning a flag.SainterK wrote:joffaboy wrote:We came 6th.SainterK wrote:Bump!
So what do people think about the balance now?
I think the defence is as solid as it can be, and there has certainly been more of an attempt to play on and score more, with more a varied spread of goal kickers.
I would love to know after the half way point in the season, where St Kilda rank for goals for and against, anyone have access to that?
This means we have next to no chance of winning the flag.
Really?
I thought it would be better than that, especially for defence, so we're ranked 6th for goals for and against for the last half of the season?
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No your not I've always been a big fan of kicking long from the middle of the ground up forward.SainterK wrote:I'm obviously alone in my sentiments, I get that now...PJ wrote:Seriously SK I didn't see a lot to give me any confidence that we were trying anything different. Worst performance in the season proper for some time. Poor skill. poor descision making. I'm struggling to find a positive.But how else do you improve on an area without trying?
10 shots on goal from mids to me is completely different to what I'm personally used to. Kicking the ball long inside 50 is also different.
It's cool, I'll keep my musings to myself PJ
IMO more inside 50s more opportunity to goal. You don't have to hit a player on the chest to score goals.
Many other things can happen and do. Ball comes off a pack of players and we score, defenders infringe and give away free kicks, the ball goes out of bounds for a throw in 20 meters out from goal etc.
Even when it does turn over we can tackle them for a ball up 30 Meters out or they may kick it out of our 50 and turn it over as well.
At the end of the day even when we do turn it over deep inside our 50 they have the full length of the ground to achieve without turning it over themselves. There is always a lot more pressure on the defence.
Since when did holding the play up at HF waiting for the perfect lead to hit someone on the chest after giving enough time to allow everyone to flood back and fill the holes work. It used to just come back out most of the time anyway.
The more inside 50s the more goals IMO.
Put it this way from 20 meters out of our goals we have more chance of kicking goals than they do being 130 from theirs.