frawley for pick 9?
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seaby has just re-signed with WCE anyway i think...matty wrote:i say pick 9 brooks and a 3rd round pick for robertson, sylvia, lil spud and seaby??? cant remember his name atm. in a 3 way deal with melb and wce.
thats a fair deal since they are in the negative position. but probably unlikely, we should be mean spirited P...ks that everyone else has been to us, this is the time to pawn others.we need to stop the 100 yrs of BS disrespect, starting with this draft and continuing into the future.
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if we were to get a draft pick in the 20's and frawley i would be rapt...kp83 wrote:Brian Taylor on MMM just said that the Judd deal is done with the Dees and the saints will get Frawley in the deal, plus some draft picks in the top 20.
Obviously not confirmed, but when BT drops these bombs, he is very rarely wrong (eg Lloyd's HS, Dick Pratt as Carlton president etc).
theoretically it would be a major show of trade muscle knowing we have an interesting piece of the puzzle
and considering this draft is rated pretty average apart from the top 5, two second round picks and virtually a first (in frawley seeing as this is his second year in the system) is a major win
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BT...you better be right!!Saints Premiers 2006 wrote:if we were to get a draft pick in the 20's and frawley i would be rapt...kp83 wrote:Brian Taylor on MMM just said that the Judd deal is done with the Dees and the saints will get Frawley in the deal, plus some draft picks in the top 20.
Obviously not confirmed, but when BT drops these bombs, he is very rarely wrong (eg Lloyd's HS, Dick Pratt as Carlton president etc).
theoretically it would be a major show of trade muscle knowing we have an interesting piece of the puzzle
and considering this draft is rated pretty average apart from the top 5, two second round picks and virtually a first (in frawley seeing as this is his second year in the system) is a major win
10/10 for stkilda if this happens
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Because Sylvia has talent, but he's burned too many bridges at Melbourne and hasn't kicked on at all.QueenC wrote:Why? Just curious.evertonfc wrote: I'm keener on Sylvia than Frawley, and he'll be available much cheaper than what he should be.
Has talent, but I can't see him getting the best out of himself in the enviroment he's currently in.
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Yes if we gained Frawley and a pick in the 20s....for 9 that would be attractive.Saints Premiers 2006 wrote:if we were to get a draft pick in the 20's and frawley i would be rapt...kp83 wrote:Brian Taylor on MMM just said that the Judd deal is done with the Dees and the saints will get Frawley in the deal, plus some draft picks in the top 20.
Obviously not confirmed, but when BT drops these bombs, he is very rarely wrong (eg Lloyd's HS, Dick Pratt as Carlton president etc).
Though the post said plus some draft picks in the top 20 ...which woud not occur as that would be too good a deal for us..
So either the draft numbers are wrong....or another player is invovd.....or the deal of frawley to the saints is wrong...
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Incorrectskeptic wrote:i'm pretty sure that u can't be traded in the 1st year of ur new contractsaintsrus wrote:He can still be traded does not mattern1ck wrote:seaby has just re-signed with WCE anyway i think...
AFLPA looked at trying to get that rule brought in but decided against it as it would restrict opportunities.
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i am not sold on frawley...he looks a dud to me...and a very slow one at that.......now jack riewoldt for pick 9...i would be sold on that.....the tiges could on trade it to melbourne for frawley...they need a full back more than we do....saintsRrising wrote:Frawley as a straight swap for No 9 would seem to be tilted in the dees favour.
While Frawley was 12 in the "super draft" and is a year older...many believe that at 12 that the Dees took him early.
Still we do need another FB option.
But if the rumour is true...perhaps the offer is there in part as the Dees may think that the Frawley name will make him more attractive to us.
But romance does not uilda good list....hard-nosed selections do.
Personally I would like to see us get more than 9........which mau necessiate another player or two being involved and or other picks.
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im sure the tigers would love another frawley at their clubstinger wrote:i am not sold on frawley...he looks a dud to me...and a very slow one at that.......now jack riewoldt for pick 9...i would be sold on that.....the tiges could on trade it to melbourne for frawley...they need a full back more than we do....saintsRrising wrote:Frawley as a straight swap for No 9 would seem to be tilted in the dees favour.
While Frawley was 12 in the "super draft" and is a year older...many believe that at 12 that the Dees took him early.
Still we do need another FB option.
But if the rumour is true...perhaps the offer is there in part as the Dees may think that the Frawley name will make him more attractive to us.
But romance does not uilda good list....hard-nosed selections do.
Personally I would like to see us get more than 9........which mau necessiate another player or two being involved and or other picks.
If Frawley is slow Jack Riewoldt is standing still. He is slow and doesnt work hard enough. Frawley better but it is still a bad deal. Pick 9 for a HBF is not in our favour even if we do get another pick in the 20's. So we may end up with 2-3 picks in 20's and get players of Howards ability. No lets try and keep pick 9 unless we get a true KPP.stinger wrote:i am not sold on frawley...he looks a dud to me...and a very slow one at that.......now jack riewoldt for pick 9...i would be sold on that.....the tiges could on trade it to melbourne for frawley...they need a full back more than we do....saintsRrising wrote:Frawley as a straight swap for No 9 would seem to be tilted in the dees favour.
While Frawley was 12 in the "super draft" and is a year older...many believe that at 12 that the Dees took him early.
Still we do need another FB option.
But if the rumour is true...perhaps the offer is there in part as the Dees may think that the Frawley name will make him more attractive to us.
But romance does not uilda good list....hard-nosed selections do.
Personally I would like to see us get more than 9........which mau necessiate another player or two being involved and or other picks.
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For pick #9, I would want Frawley and a top 20 pick at least.
I would actually prefer Ricky Petterd (mentioned by Hutchy this morning as a possibility). He is a hard-running midfielder and would be a better fit for us than Frawley.
Despite Frawley being a first round selection, Melbourne don't have a great record with their drafting/trading and I would be wary.
St Kilda LOSE: pick #9
St Kilda GAIN: Ricky Petterd + pick #21
^^ That would be a good trade for us.
(BTW, someone said that GT said this wouldn't be done. WTF would he know? Lyon can do what he likes)
I would actually prefer Ricky Petterd (mentioned by Hutchy this morning as a possibility). He is a hard-running midfielder and would be a better fit for us than Frawley.
Despite Frawley being a first round selection, Melbourne don't have a great record with their drafting/trading and I would be wary.
St Kilda LOSE: pick #9
St Kilda GAIN: Ricky Petterd + pick #21
^^ That would be a good trade for us.
(BTW, someone said that GT said this wouldn't be done. WTF would he know? Lyon can do what he likes)
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I'd rather keep pick nine. There should be a better player than Frawley or Petterd available at pick 9.
Matt Kreuzer
Trent Cotchin
Chris Masten
Rhys Palmer
Cale Morton
Brad Ebert
Cyril Rioli
Ben McEvoy
Alex Rance
That's nine guys. At least one of them will be available at pick nine, and I'd rather have any one of them than Frawley or Petterd.
Matt Kreuzer
Trent Cotchin
Chris Masten
Rhys Palmer
Cale Morton
Brad Ebert
Cyril Rioli
Ben McEvoy
Alex Rance
That's nine guys. At least one of them will be available at pick nine, and I'd rather have any one of them than Frawley or Petterd.
vacuous space wrote:I'd rather keep pick nine. There should be a better player than Frawley or Petterd available at pick 9.
Matt Kreuzer
Trent Cotchin
Chris Masten
Rhys Palmer
Cale Morton
Brad Ebert
Cyril Rioli
Ben McEvoy
Alex Rance
That's nine guys. At least one of them will be available at pick nine, and I'd rather have any one of them than Frawley or Petterd.
this is exatcly what the club needs to be doing...making a calculated guess on what who will be available by pick 9 and then comparing them with whoever we plan to trade the pick for
fwiw it would be interesting to see a top 25 players, in no particular order - and then judging, would pick 9 be better than frawley/pettered/etc and on of these players around the 20 mark?
i think it could be better gaining frawley, or id prefer petterd and another one of those kids
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I'd rather have Rance or Collier than Frawley. Much more versatile players with better skills. Frawley will be a FB and should be a good one. Rance can play CHB and FB and run out of defence. Collier can play in the midfield. For me, it's an easy decision. Keep the pick.SaintBot wrote:i think it could be better gaining frawley, or id prefer petterd and another one of those kids
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thats boardering hilarious...ashjam wrote:I would only trade pick 9 for both Petterd and Frawley.
One of them is way too favourable for Melbourne.
Must play hard ball in regards to trades.
One was pick 12 one was pick 30 in last years draft.
Two of them equates to pick 9.
pettard is going to be a gun...frawley more than serviceable at the very least
it seems like chris judd is going to have noone to play with down at the dees...
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Matt Kreuzer
Trent Cotchin
Chris Masten
Rhys Palmer
Cale Morton
Brad Ebert
Cyril Rioli
Ben McEvoy
Alex Rance
Add to this list the following players who could also go in the first 9.
Lachie Henderson, 196cm key fwd.
Steve Gaetner, 196cm key fwd/ back.
Thomas Bellchambers, 204 cm ruck.
Scott Sellwood 184cm on-ball defender.
Tom Collier, 192cm CHB Ruck Rover.
It is going to be an interesting draft.
Trent Cotchin
Chris Masten
Rhys Palmer
Cale Morton
Brad Ebert
Cyril Rioli
Ben McEvoy
Alex Rance
Add to this list the following players who could also go in the first 9.
Lachie Henderson, 196cm key fwd.
Steve Gaetner, 196cm key fwd/ back.
Thomas Bellchambers, 204 cm ruck.
Scott Sellwood 184cm on-ball defender.
Tom Collier, 192cm CHB Ruck Rover.
It is going to be an interesting draft.