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Re: Team vs Brisbane

Post: # 1958879Post saintbob »

meher baba wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 9:52am I can’t recall a player more overrated by fans in my time than is Cooper Sharman.

Armitage came close at times. I’m sure there are others I’m struggling to recall.
Lonie was far away the most overrated player!!!


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How much of a problem will Daniher be ?


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The Fireman wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 7:47pm How much of a problem will Daniher be ?
Can be a very good player, hopefully will still be getting fitness back.

Who is our sub tonight?


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Re: Team vs Brisbane

Post: # 1958924Post WellardSaint »

The Fireman wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 7:47pm How much of a problem will Daniher be ?
I predict that Daniher will be well-held by Wilkie, with Battle leaving his own man to help out.
It's the Corey Enright influence, who appears to have our backline working together with an almost military discipline.
He might get 2-3 lucky goals courtesy of Matt Stevic, who is the male version of Eleni Glouftsis (i.e. they're both clueless and prone to stupid calls)

Hoping we keep Hill away from the backline.
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WellardSaint wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 8:32pm
The Fireman wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 7:47pm How much of a problem will Daniher be ?
I predict that Daniher will be well-held by Wilkie, with Battle leaving his own man to help out.
It's the Corey Enright influence, who appears to have our backline working together with an almost military discipline.
He might get 2-3 lucky goals courtesy of Matt Srevic, who is the male version of Eleni Glouftsis (i.e. they're both clueless and prone to stupid calls)

Hoping we keep Hill away from the backline.
Yep I’m hoping this as well

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Re: Team vs Brisbane

Post: # 1958941Post samoht »

... In the final analysis, I'm sure the Brions will have Fort well, but the Saints will have all the Answerths :wink: .


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The 3 small forwards never worked well for us last year so obviously if Butler & Higgins play Ben needs to go somewhere else but IMO he has been better option than Butler up forward so far this year


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Re: Team vs Brisbane

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meher baba wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 9:52am I can’t recall a player more overrated by fans in my time than is Cooper Sharman.

Armitage came close at times. I’m sure there are others I’m struggling to recall.
He’s had 5 games or so
Kicked goals in most of those
Can’t get a good run at it

Butlers had 1 good year
Had 1 good year before Tigers let him go too

I know whose perhaps overrated and who just hasn’t had a shot at it yet.


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Fagan says he dropped their 2nd ruck, Darcy Fort, to promote Daniher.
They reckon they did well last yr with one ruck, winning 10 and losing one game that way.

We need to play the way we did vs Cats, but better.
Cameron only got one goal, I think he got 6 touches maybe.
I'm confident Wilkie can contain Daniher, helped by Battle and Howard, as well as pressure on Lions' forward entries to affect their passes.

Gonna be very intetesting game.
Win or lose, the way we play against a genuine contender, will show the brains trust at the club where we need to improve.
A combination of tactics and personnel.
Do we trade out certain players who may not go next level?
Get Amon into the club, for example?

Do we persist with the core players and change the way we play?


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bigcarl wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 1:12am
Yorkeys wrote: Thu 09 Jun 2022 8:15pm Disappointed that Clark has not come back/ can't get in before Butler. Have to wonder what the long term holds for him now.
Must be match conditioning and fitness you’d think. He’s had two matches back interrupted by the bye and a bout of Covid. If he’s ready to go he’s a walk-up start imo.

On the plus side, he and Billings out of the side certainly puts pressure to perform on the incumbents,
Not that it really means much because we ultimately win or lose by the effort of the 22 on the field but the Club must be travelling pretty well to have what is ultimately the classiest / strongest four emergencies in this era of emergencies.

NWM, Clark, Billings & Lienert


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With Steele out, it would have been handy to have Hannebery available. But, oh well...


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Was really hanging for this game but will miss it ….will record will get to see it at about 1 o’clock in the morning will be able to race through Brisbane goals :)

Usually pessimistic but optimistic about this one for some reason

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Re: Team vs Brisbane

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Teflon wrote: Sat 11 Jun 2022 12:16am
meher baba wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 9:52am I can’t recall a player more overrated by fans in my time than is Cooper Sharman.

Armitage came close at times. I’m sure there are others I’m struggling to recall.
He’s had 5 games or so
Kicked goals in most of those
Can’t get a good run at it

Butlers had 1 good year
Had 1 good year before Tigers let him go too

I know whose perhaps overrated and who just hasn’t had a shot at it yet.
Well, over the seven afl games he’s played, he averages about 2 shots a game. And, I’ll give him this, he nails most of them.

But he’s clearly struggling to get near the ball at AFL level. And to some extent at VFL level too. How much of a go should he get, given the competition we have for spots at the moment? Billings had two games and then got unceremoniously dropped.

We’re in a premiership-chasing phase, no longer a player development phase.


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Re: Team vs Brisbane

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Saints are $3.40 i.e. no hope according to the bookies.


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meher baba wrote: Sat 11 Jun 2022 11:52am
Teflon wrote: Sat 11 Jun 2022 12:16am
meher baba wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 9:52am I can’t recall a player more overrated by fans in my time than is Cooper Sharman.

Armitage came close at times. I’m sure there are others I’m struggling to recall.
He’s had 5 games or so
Kicked goals in most of those
Can’t get a good run at it

Butlers had 1 good year
Had 1 good year before Tigers let him go too

I know whose perhaps overrated and who just hasn’t had a shot at it yet.
Well, over the seven afl games he’s played, he averages about 2 shots a game. And, I’ll give him this, he nails most of them.

But he’s clearly struggling to get near the ball at AFL level. And to some extent at VFL level too. How much of a go should he get, given the competition we have for spots at the moment? Billings had two games and then got unceremoniously dropped.

We’re in a premiership-chasing phase, no longer a player development phase.
Nonsense IMHO

King regularly get six touches for a game.

Key marking forward can succeed with single digit possession numbers.

I think Sharman produces - or can produce headaches for oppo coaches.

The way you say, ‘how long can we give him? ‘ which for a player with less than ten games, is very strange. He on a hiding to nothing.


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Re: Team vs Brisbane

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Like to see bookies algorithm on the form line: Saints 50+ points over North, 21 points over Adelaide in Adelaide; Bne 14 points over coachless GWS, lost by 14 to Freo at home, a fixture Saints won; but we are not considered a serious chance. Perhaps Clive has plonked on the Lions and we are too poor to squander on gambling so its the weight of money not the quality of the team. Possibly a Butler discount in the calculations. If so hope it blows up on them. Then again bookies probably want us to win because of live final 4 multis.


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shanegrambeau wrote: Sat 11 Jun 2022 12:34pm
meher baba wrote: Sat 11 Jun 2022 11:52am
Teflon wrote: Sat 11 Jun 2022 12:16am
meher baba wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 9:52am I can’t recall a player more overrated by fans in my time than is Cooper Sharman.

Armitage came close at times. I’m sure there are others I’m struggling to recall.
He’s had 5 games or so
Kicked goals in most of those
Can’t get a good run at it

Butlers had 1 good year
Had 1 good year before Tigers let him go too

I know whose perhaps overrated and who just hasn’t had a shot at it yet.
Well, over the seven afl games he’s played, he averages about 2 shots a game. And, I’ll give him this, he nails most of them.

But he’s clearly struggling to get near the ball at AFL level. And to some extent at VFL level too. How much of a go should he get, given the competition we have for spots at the moment? Billings had two games and then got unceremoniously dropped.

We’re in a premiership-chasing phase, no longer a player development phase.
Nonsense IMHO

King regularly get six touches for a game.

Key marking forward can succeed with single digit possession numbers.

I think Sharman produces - or can produce headaches for oppo coaches.

The way you say, ‘how long can we give him? ‘ which for a player with less than ten games, is very strange. He on a hiding to nothing.

King is a completely different kettle of fish.

Bloke gets the number one defender and regularly double teamed. Sharman gets anywhere from the 2nd to 4th and often has his opponent peal off of him.


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Post: # 1959010Post SunnyErnie »

saintbob wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 5:29pm
meher baba wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 9:52am I can’t recall a player more overrated by fans in my time than is Cooper Sharman.

Armitage came close at times. I’m sure there are others I’m struggling to recall.
Lonie was far away the most overrated player!!!
He playes some reasonable games for us


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loop
nostalgicsaint wrote: Sat 11 Jun 2022 1:41pm
shanegrambeau wrote: Sat 11 Jun 2022 12:34pm
meher baba wrote: Sat 11 Jun 2022 11:52am
Teflon wrote: Sat 11 Jun 2022 12:16am
meher baba wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 9:52am I can’t recall a player more overrated by fans in my time than is Cooper Sharman.

Armitage came close at times. I’m sure there are others I’m struggling to recall.
He’s had 5 games or so
Kicked goals in most of those
Can’t get a good run at it

Butlers had 1 good year
Had 1 good year before Tigers let him go too

I know whose perhaps overrated and who just hasn’t had a shot at it yet.
Well, over the seven afl games he’s played, he averages about 2 shots a game. And, I’ll give him this, he nails most of them.

But he’s clearly struggling to get near the ball at AFL level. And to some extent at VFL level too. How much of a go should he get, given the competition we have for spots at the moment? Billings had two games and then got unceremoniously dropped.

We’re in a premiership-chasing phase, no longer a player development phase.
Nonsense IMHO

King regularly get six touches for a game.

Key marking forward can succeed with single digit possession numbers.

I think Sharman produces - or can produce headaches for oppo coaches.

The way you say, ‘how long can we give him? ‘ which for a player with less than ten games, is very strange. He on a hiding to nothing.

King is a completely different kettle of fish.

Bloke gets the number one defender and regularly double teamed. Sharman gets anywhere from the 2nd to 4th and often has his opponent peal off of him.
Yes
And oppo players stream away from King contests all the time.

I think if Sharman get five posies and kicks 3.1 he’s earned his keep.


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Post: # 1959022Post The Fireman »

yep there is something about Coops I like..the same sort of X factor I saw in Long.
Diff sort of players I know....
Long is starting to show what he can do....I'm tipping Coops will too.


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meher baba wrote: Sat 11 Jun 2022 11:52am
Teflon wrote: Sat 11 Jun 2022 12:16am
meher baba wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 9:52am I can’t recall a player more overrated by fans in my time than is Cooper Sharman.

Armitage came close at times. I’m sure there are others I’m struggling to recall.
He’s had 5 games or so
Kicked goals in most of those
Can’t get a good run at it

Butlers had 1 good year
Had 1 good year before Tigers let him go too

I know whose perhaps overrated and who just hasn’t had a shot at it yet.
Well, over the seven afl games he’s played, he averages about 2 shots a game. And, I’ll give him this, he nails most of them.

But he’s clearly struggling to get near the ball at AFL level. And to some extent at VFL level too. How much of a go should he get, given the competition we have for spots at the moment? Billings had two games and then got unceremoniously dropped.

We’re in a premiership-chasing phase, no longer a player development phase.
6.5 games, 13 goals. He does more than get 2 shots a game.

Also 1 Brownlow vote and 8 coaches votes.

It took Max King 9 games to get 13 goals and 20 games to get a Brownlow vote.


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perfectionist wrote: Sat 11 Jun 2022 12:08pm Saints are $3.40 i.e. no hope according to the bookies.
Ridiculous odds.


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saintbob wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 5:29pm
meher baba wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 9:52am I can’t recall a player more overrated by fans in my time than is Cooper Sharman.

Armitage came close at times. I’m sure there are others I’m struggling to recall.
Lonie was far away the most overrated player!!!
He was crap!


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SunnyErnie wrote: Sat 11 Jun 2022 1:43pm
saintbob wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 5:29pm
meher baba wrote: Fri 10 Jun 2022 9:52am I can’t recall a player more overrated by fans in my time than is Cooper Sharman.

Armitage came close at times. I’m sure there are others I’m struggling to recall.
Lonie was far away the most overrated player!!!
He playes some reasonable games for us
Correct.

While he clearly wasn’t good enough to remain on the list, by definition a delisted player cannot be overrated.

Classic non sequitur!
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