Who the HELL????
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Blake is giving us the Duthie treatment. Making a buck at our expense.
On the flipside - if CJ didnt set him alight then no issue. Not real bright CJ.
On the flipside - if CJ didnt set him alight then no issue. Not real bright CJ.
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No doubt as this controversy continues to feature in the media the rest of the team will keep reminding Clint:
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Re: Who the HELL????
markinUSA wrote:That would be really bad.
Because repeatedly targetting of the victim sounds an awful like what happens in....
A HATE CRIME!
I dont get your position anymore. it obviously wasnt a hate crime because nearly everyone was targetted. Can you explain it after what it seems we all now know.
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A hate crime lmao your taking the pyss right?markinUSA wrote:That would be really bad.
Because repeatedly targetting of the victim sounds an awful like what happens in....
A HATE CRIME!
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The voice of reason. I totally agree. Hard not to unless you're setting bait.BigMart wrote:No,
I just found the whole thing reprehensible, that's all.... Staggered people in this day and age didn't
Left a bad taste in my mouth as a stk supporter.... Again
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Anyone who thinks that Clint Jones was perpetrating a hate crime or acting like a bully needs to remember some of his courageous acts on the field.
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CJ made a poor decision off the field. That does not make him hate criminal. Nor does it make him a bully.
It makes his drunken behaviour idiotic.
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CJ made a poor decision off the field. That does not make him hate criminal. Nor does it make him a bully.
It makes his drunken behaviour idiotic.
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It belongs in the 'jackass hijinks gone wrong' category.
Certainly not a hate crime. MarkinUSA - aren't you concerned you are trivialising real hate crimes?
Certainly not a hate crime. MarkinUSA - aren't you concerned you are trivialising real hate crimes?
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plugger66 wrote:markinUSA wrote:That would be really bad.
Because repeatedly targetting of the victim sounds an awful like what happens in....
A HATE CRIME!
I dont get your position anymore. it obviously wasnt a hate crime because nearly everyone was targetted. Can you explain it after what it seems we all now know.
Dont think he can P66.
Seems to be just shouting HATE CRIME, HATE CRIME, HATE CRIME when any reasonable person can see it was no such thing.
I think he is a bit excited and thinks shouting wins for his PoV.
Getting a little sad actually.
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There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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yes getting to that stageCon Gorozidis wrote:It belongs in the 'jackass hijinks gone wrong' category.
Certainly not a hate crime. MarkinUSA - aren't you concerned you are trivialising real hate crimes?
making a bit of a dill of himself I'm afraid
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There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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It got a little sad at this point...joffaboy wrote:Seems to be just shouting HATE CRIME, HATE CRIME, HATE CRIME when any reasonable person can see it was no such thing.
I think he is a bit excited and thinks shouting wins for his PoV.
Getting a little sad actually.
Now it is borderline SPAM.markinUSA wrote:I've dedicated my life to stopping the abuse of disabled people.
I wrote a book about hate crimes against people with disabilities.
This sort of stuff is appalling and unfortunately very common.
I don't care how long I've followed St. Kilda, I hope someone goes to jail for this.
There is NO EXCUSE for abusing vulnerable people... and someone who is a little person will always be seen as physically vulnerable by football players who are always so much bigger.
I am disgusted, and seriously considering whether I should cancel my membership next year. This is a big deal to me. Huge.
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Look Mark, I can see you're upset. I won't try to ridicule you as others have.
However, are you certain that Blake J was targeted solely because he's a dwarf? My understanding is the players were fooling about, setting each others clothes on fire and whatnot, and someone either said "Hey CJ, see if you can get Mr Big" or CLINT thought it would be funny all by himself. If it was a clown, he would have tried to get the clown, if it was David Hasselhoff, he... might have thought twice, that guy probably has a kickass Hollywood lawyer, but you get my drift right? I think Mr Big was targeted because he was the entertainer. If he'd been a member of the board for example, I doubt there would have been any issue.
Secondly, please remember that as the good Dr pointed out earlier, Blake has invited ridicule of his stature by the nature of his chosen profession. His performing name is Mr Big. He wrestles other dwarves for the entertainment of paying customers. That doesn't permit fools to set him alight, and he clearly deserves the respect that anyone deserves, but equally, he puts himself in the situation of inviting ridicule over his stature. I accept that a line has clearly been crossed though.
Still, this comes nowhere near a hate crime and I think your expertise in this instance is actually hindering your ability to seeing the issue for what it is.
Good luck with your fight in general though, I think its great that people are getting involved with the handicapped community and supporting them.
However, are you certain that Blake J was targeted solely because he's a dwarf? My understanding is the players were fooling about, setting each others clothes on fire and whatnot, and someone either said "Hey CJ, see if you can get Mr Big" or CLINT thought it would be funny all by himself. If it was a clown, he would have tried to get the clown, if it was David Hasselhoff, he... might have thought twice, that guy probably has a kickass Hollywood lawyer, but you get my drift right? I think Mr Big was targeted because he was the entertainer. If he'd been a member of the board for example, I doubt there would have been any issue.
Secondly, please remember that as the good Dr pointed out earlier, Blake has invited ridicule of his stature by the nature of his chosen profession. His performing name is Mr Big. He wrestles other dwarves for the entertainment of paying customers. That doesn't permit fools to set him alight, and he clearly deserves the respect that anyone deserves, but equally, he puts himself in the situation of inviting ridicule over his stature. I accept that a line has clearly been crossed though.
Still, this comes nowhere near a hate crime and I think your expertise in this instance is actually hindering your ability to seeing the issue for what it is.
Good luck with your fight in general though, I think its great that people are getting involved with the handicapped community and supporting them.
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By the way, I reserve the right to write this particular player's name in capitals, especially on this occasion since he has clearly been a STUPID CLINT.
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In Mark's own words the lighting of Mr Johnston constitutes a hate crime because he was the only one targetted who wasn't a friend of CJ's - all the other players who were ignited were friends therefore that is OKplugger66 wrote:markinUSA wrote:That would be really bad.
Because repeatedly targetting of the victim sounds an awful like what happens in....
A HATE CRIME!
I dont get your position anymore. it obviously wasnt a hate crime because nearly everyone was targetted. Can you explain it after what it seems we all now know.
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STUPID FLICKING CLINTAustinnn wrote:By the way, I reserve the right to write this particular player's name in capitals, especially on this occasion since he has clearly been a STUPID CLINT.
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ACA about to set a new low and I normally stick up for the media and are happy to have a go at the club when they stuff up. Having said that a player may have stuffed up with some texts.
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I don't usually quote myself, but after reading the backpages of this thread, and reading the very good "stripper" arguement, I thought that I'd better emphasise the point I made, just so I don't accidentally advocate the physical/emotional abuse of strippers.Austinnn wrote:I accept that a line has clearly been crossed though.
After reading Plugger's description of the event and the inside goss about the entertainment providers, I'd be keen for this to be investigated properly and for the full truth to be publicised, one way or the other. Either Mr Big and his agents are playing Media Coverage games at the Saints' expense or CLINT and his buddies need a bit of a re-introduction into the real world that exists outside the Boys Club okker bubble. Or both.
I've got a feeling that critics of St Kilda are due to owe the club a humble apology, but it didn't happen after the Duthie scandal, so I don't s'pose we can ever expect justice.
... EDITED... Oh god, what texts?
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If stuck at work, livestream the drivel here ....
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What a stitch up. People have a go at the HS but that was the worst beat up in history.
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the little person is now milking it for all it's worth....current affairs ffs.....dollar signs are now blinding him...
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Hahahahaha!!!
Oh man. That was ACA magic!
I still don't know what actually happened either!
Oh man. That was ACA magic!
I still don't know what actually happened either!
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That was it???? Oh god I thought that ACA. Couldn't get worse.....
Thats Mr. Smartarse to you