That's what any normal club would do but they would probably want 7 and a playerJoffa Burns wrote:Yep, 8 + 43 + 57 for Gaff + 28 + 65bergsone wrote:Joffa Burns wrote:Yep, a second round pick will secure you a contracted 25 year old AA wingmanSaint 58 wrote: We should somehow get a mid to late second rounder& offer that - take it or leave it
Thought he was older than 25,pick 8 and maybe change later picks would be ok.Especially if at 25 should have 4-5 years left
The advantage for WCE is he is a unrestricted FA next year so maximize their return now.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)
My point being he's not worth pick 7 or 8 by a long shot and he's not in the top 30 midfielders in the AFLbergsone wrote:Joffa Burns wrote:Yep, a second round pick will secure you a contracted 25 year old AA wingmanSaint 58 wrote: We should somehow get a mid to late second rounder& offer that - take it or leave it
Thought he was older than 25,pick 8 and maybe change later picks would be ok.Especially if at 25 should have 4-5 years left
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)
The only mid on our list that is the equal of Gaff is Jack Steven and Gaff is easily in the best 30 mids in the league.Saint 58 wrote:My point being he's not worth pick 7 or 8 by a long shot and he's not in the top 30 midfielders in the AFLbergsone wrote:Joffa Burns wrote:Yep, a second round pick will secure you a contracted 25 year old AA wingmanSaint 58 wrote: We should somehow get a mid to late second rounder& offer that - take it or leave it
Thought he was older than 25,pick 8 and maybe change later picks would be ok.Especially if at 25 should have 4-5 years left
Do you think we could draft a player who (barring injury) will play the next 6 seasons at A grade level?
We might draft the next Dangerfield or the next Caden Bentham with #8, who knows.
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Saw the eagles game against us imo best for eagles along with mitchell .didnt waste the footy and 30 odd possesions outside run is a part of us which is missing
Worth pick ?,but deinately in our best 22
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)
Caden Bentham, was he any better than Caydn Beetham who played for St Kilda from 2000 until quitting at the end of 2002 probably as a result of Scheuermann's disease.Joffa Burns wrote:The only mid on our list that is the equal of Gaff is Jack Steven and Gaff is easily in the best 30 mids in the league.Saint 58 wrote:My point being he's not worth pick 7 or 8 by a long shot and he's not in the top 30 midfielders in the AFLbergsone wrote:Joffa Burns wrote:Yep, a second round pick will secure you a contracted 25 year old AA wingmanSaint 58 wrote: We should somehow get a mid to late second rounder& offer that - take it or leave it
Thought he was older than 25,pick 8 and maybe change later picks would be ok.Especially if at 25 should have 4-5 years left
Do you think we could draft a player who (barring injury) will play the next 6 seasons at A grade level?
We might draft the next Dangerfield or the next Caden Bentham with #8, who knows.
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With the addition of Henry Playfair to our coaching ranks should we be Turing our attention to the swans list. Often coaches or list managers can bring over talent from their old club based on close relationships/mentoring...?? Not to mention Mclin is with us also.
My feeling is that our big fish may be Luke Parker.
For some reason he had a shocking season. Has signed to 2021.
Sydney would feel they are in a semi rebuild. 7-8 for Parker and Sydneys pick 14.
Pick 14 our future first and Bruce for Tom Lynch
Just a pipe dream and no sources whatsoever but would make our team look very good..?
My feeling is that our big fish may be Luke Parker.
For some reason he had a shocking season. Has signed to 2021.
Sydney would feel they are in a semi rebuild. 7-8 for Parker and Sydneys pick 14.
Pick 14 our future first and Bruce for Tom Lynch
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)
I'm bit worried the saints might throw kitchen sinks to get gaff
Hes ok but I want more for one of my top ten picks
Consider the three clubs involved here west coast, vs stkilda, hawthorn all three at similar ladder position west coast will do their best to drive a hard deal. Which they should. At worst hawthorn just weakens us by driving the price up with chips they don't have (or I assume they don't have)
.rockcliffe would have been "cheaper" in that regard and he impacts the score board a lot more than gaff
Hes ok but I want more for one of my top ten picks
Consider the three clubs involved here west coast, vs stkilda, hawthorn all three at similar ladder position west coast will do their best to drive a hard deal. Which they should. At worst hawthorn just weakens us by driving the price up with chips they don't have (or I assume they don't have)
.rockcliffe would have been "cheaper" in that regard and he impacts the score board a lot more than gaff
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)
A longtime poster on the WCE page has called it
'Trade will be Gaff and pick 13 for picks 7 and 8.'
we would most likely use pick 13 for Haynes.
So Gaff and Haynes would be great additions. Good trading if this gets done
Also explains the quietness on Haynes...that deal doesn't get done till the gaff one does.
'Trade will be Gaff and pick 13 for picks 7 and 8.'
we would most likely use pick 13 for Haynes.
So Gaff and Haynes would be great additions. Good trading if this gets done
Also explains the quietness on Haynes...that deal doesn't get done till the gaff one does.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)
What a load of crap.
The Saints are required to have three picks in the draft.
The west coast supporter is f****** dreaming.
The Saints are required to have three picks in the draft.
The west coast supporter is f****** dreaming.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)
This doesn't sound unlikely thoughsaynta wrote:What a load of crap.
The Saints are required to have three picks in the draft.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)
And significant mental health issues that were simply not understood then. Went on to have a fine career in the Amos and the suburbs. Shame, he coulda been a contender.ace wrote:Caden Bentham, was he any better than Caydn Beetham who played for St Kilda from 2000 until quitting at the end of 2002 probably as a result of Scheuermann's disease.Joffa Burns wrote:The only mid on our list that is the equal of Gaff is Jack Steven and Gaff is easily in the best 30 mids in the league.Saint 58 wrote:My point being he's not worth pick 7 or 8 by a long shot and he's not in the top 30 midfielders in the AFLbergsone wrote:Joffa Burns wrote:Yep, a second round pick will secure you a contracted 25 year old AA wingmanSaint 58 wrote: We should somehow get a mid to late second rounder& offer that - take it or leave it
Thought he was older than 25,pick 8 and maybe change later picks would be ok.Especially if at 25 should have 4-5 years left
Do you think we could draft a player who (barring injury) will play the next 6 seasons at A grade level?
We might draft the next Dangerfield or the next Caden Bentham with #8, who knows.
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+ 1saynta wrote:What a load of crap.
The Saints are required to have three picks in the draft.
The west coast supporter is f****** dreaming.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)
Gaff!?!
Has he ever earnt a kick in his life???
I have nothing against 'outside running players', but every single player must also be able to win his own footy. That's a non-negotiable for me! If today's GF is tight, once again it will be proven that soft outside receivers go missing in high stakes, high pressure games.
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Good players , don't get me wrong. But I'm not sold. If we get these two guys that means we have to be hitting the window now, or in the next year or two... a window that stays open for a couple more years... say 2022-ish, yet if we go to the draft get some young guys, we hit our peak in two three years time and the window stays open for 5+ years. For me it's a question of a bit more short term pain for long term gain. No guarantees obviously, but it just makes more sense to me... thoughts?The Recruit wrote:A longtime poster on the WCE page has called it
'Trade will be Gaff and pick 13 for picks 7 and 8.'
we would most likely use pick 13 for Haynes.
So Gaff and Haynes would be great additions. Good trading if this gets done
Also explains the quietness on Haynes...that deal doesn't get done till the gaff one does.
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I'm a fan off Gaff and would love to get him but two top ten picks is way overs, even with 13 coming back.The Recruit wrote:A longtime poster on the WCE page has called it
'Trade will be Gaff and pick 13 for picks 7 and 8.'
we would most likely use pick 13 for Haynes.
So Gaff and Haynes would be great additions. Good trading if this gets done
Also explains the quietness on Haynes...that deal doesn't get done till the gaff one does.
Using 8 on its own is a big call but worthwhile. That's a Kelly sort of deal not Gaff.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)
AgreeJoffa Burns wrote:I'm a fan off Gaff and would love to get him but two top ten picks is way overs, even with 13 coming back.The Recruit wrote:A longtime poster on the WCE page has called it
'Trade will be Gaff and pick 13 for picks 7 and 8.'
we would most likely use pick 13 for Haynes.
So Gaff and Haynes would be great additions. Good trading if this gets done
Also explains the quietness on Haynes...that deal doesn't get done till the gaff one does.
Using 8 on its own is a big call but worthwhile. That's a Kelly sort of deal not Gaff.
If we give up more than pick 8, we're overpaying.
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Agree with you 100%Long Term Injury wrote:Good players , don't get me wrong. But I'm not sold. If we get these two guys that means we have to be hitting the window now, or in the next year or two... a window that stays open for a couple more years... say 2022-ish, yet if we go to the draft get some young guys, we hit our peak in two three years time and the window stays open for 5+ years. For me it's a question of a bit more short term pain for long term gain. No guarantees obviously, but it just makes more sense to me... thoughts?The Recruit wrote:A longtime poster on the WCE page has called it
'Trade will be Gaff and pick 13 for picks 7 and 8.'
we would most likely use pick 13 for Haynes.
So Gaff and Haynes would be great additions. Good trading if this gets done
Also explains the quietness on Haynes...that deal doesn't get done till the gaff one does.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)
Page of what? BigFooty?The Recruit wrote:A longtime poster on the WCE page has called it
'Trade will be Gaff and pick 13 for picks 7 and 8.'
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And why not actually post the posters forum name etc. or normally if you just reply with a quote on the other forum(but do not hit post) you can copy it and then pst that here.
I can see
though he has only been posting since Nov 2015. So if him, hardly longtime...boondy, post: 52749449, member: 149792 wrote:Trade will be Gaff and pick 13 for picks 7 and 8 .
Which I would still be excited about.
Darcy Fogarty and Clarke would be nice
Plus i would take that more as it is what he thinks the trade would be, rather than he KNOWS what it is.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)
If the club entertains that deal then the list managers should be sacked. Ridiculous. WCE fan needs to call Daryl Kerrigan.saintsRrising wrote:Page of what? BigFooty?The Recruit wrote:A longtime poster on the WCE page has called it
'Trade will be Gaff and pick 13 for picks 7 and 8.'
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And why not actually post the posters forum name etc. or normally if you just reply with a quote on the other forum(but do not hit post) you can copy it and then pst that here.
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GregPackhamsHeadband wrote:If the club entertains that deal then the list managers should be sacked. Ridiculous. WCE fan needs to call Daryl Kerrigan.saintsRrising wrote:Page of what? BigFooty?The Recruit wrote:A longtime poster on the WCE page has called it
'Trade will be Gaff and pick 13 for picks 7 and 8.'
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And why not actually post the posters forum name etc. or normally if you just reply with a quote on the other forum(but do not hit post) you can copy it and then pst that here.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)
So much guessing and rubbish speculation on here it is amazing.
Brace yourself that we will go to the draft with picks 7 & 8.
It is the correct strategy for long term success provided we draft wisely.
Brace yourself that we will go to the draft with picks 7 & 8.
It is the correct strategy for long term success provided we draft wisely.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)
Nick Haynes ?jaxons wrote:So much guessing and rubbish speculation on here it is amazing.
Brace yourself that we will go to the draft with picks 7 & 8.
It is the correct strategy for long term success provided we draft wisely.
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Hear hear.jaxons wrote:So much guessing and rubbish speculation on here it is amazing.
Brace yourself that we will go to the draft with picks 7 & 8.
It is the correct strategy for long term success provided we draft wisely.
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Re: Jaxons come on down (2017/18 thread)
I like this. We could get two very good players with these picks. Unless we're getting a Dusty or Kelly via trade, sounds good to me.jaxons wrote:So much guessing and rubbish speculation on here it is amazing.
Brace yourself that we will go to the draft with picks 7 & 8.
It is the correct strategy for long term success provided we draft wisely.
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It's a bit of a lottery though isn't it.jaxons wrote:So much guessing and rubbish speculation on here it is amazing.
Brace yourself that we will go to the draft with picks 7 & 8.
It is the correct strategy for long term success provided we draft wisely.
No guarantee at all, despite all due diligence, that a junior who looks the goods is going to step up into a quality player.
So the Haynes thing was a bit of a piss take in response to all the rubbish speculation? Wasn't sure but took it in good faith when you posted it.