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Richter wrote:One more thing, whilst I understand that in law priors are inadmissible in court, in fields such as forensic psychiatry, the single biggest predictor in determining whether an individual is likely to reoffend violently is whether or not they have previously committed an act of violence.

So, whilst the law clearly protects the right of the individual to have a 'fair' trial, by the very fact of this omission it cuts off an extremely valuable tool that is commonly used in clinical risk assessment, to give you but one example.

The law is not a science, and IMO for sexual crimes it is far too weighted against the victim and in favor of the accused.
Yes you make many valid points Richter but that is our system of law and, while it is constantly being upgraded and hopefully improved, it is based on the presumption of innocence so you are right that it is weighted in favour of the accused and consequenly will be 'against' the victim - it doesnt mean to that's just the system.

The law of sexual assault has changed drastically in the last 20 years -when I went to Law School - rape was 'the feloniousl f***..g of a female through fear or force - now it involves all types of penetration (that why Lovett was also charged with digital assualt), it is gender neutral so now includes males and transgender folk, and now also includes lack of consent via fraud (what the prosecution in the Lovett case was trying to prove).

Also much has been done with the investigation aspects of the crime with police and prosecutors having training in improving empathy towards the victim. In prosecution stage the rules of evidence for sexual assault cases has been changed compared to other serious crimes to favour the victim so that the old cross examination of a victim's past which often went on for days with the defence trawing through a victim's sexual past in the finest and often embarassing detail, is restricted.

Sure it is still a very difficult crime to investigate, prosecute and sentence, but things are changing. Maybe not at the rate you would like, understanding your own personal experiences with sexual assault victims, but nevertheless changing. And remember, the Legal System has always been the most conservative of all our structures, so change will be slow.

I empathise with any victim of sexual assault - it is the most under reported crime, it is the most common crime for police not to charge, it is the least prosecuted crime and on top of all those barriers, it has the lowest guilty rate.

In the end Richter, the only way is through education at school that teaches our young basic moral values and respect for all people (even dare I say other team's supporters)

Sorry for the long discourses of technical aspects of the law

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Richter wrote:
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Richter wrote:Now, each to their own, but having sex with another person within a few hours at most after having sex with and having been accused of rape by someone else in front of your workmates.... hmmm... makes you wonder what sort of a person does that..... one who views women as objects for his own gratification and not a lot else?....
People have sex in times of great stress and grief too... and I think it was probably as irrelevant as it was open to be misinterpreted.
we expect a jury to deliberate a difficult case like this one, but they aren't able to appropriate reasonable weight as to interpret the accused's state of mind afterwards by the actions that he undertook?

Neither did the jury hear about his priors.

They didn't even get to hear him be questioned, put through the wringer, unlike his victim , who got to relive her trauma in the witness box for zero tangible result.

Yeah, terrific system of justice this one. It's based on the British system.... as mentioned, there are other ways.... This system fails victims of sexual assaults. Another victim is tainted today.... and twelve jurists have to look themselves in the mirror tonight. I wonder how many distrust their decision now they can read ALL the facts....
You are jumping to your own conclusions.

Either the jury was not satisfied beyond reasonable doubt (near impossible given an absence of corroboration I would have thought) OR they did not accept the alleged victim as a truthful witness (more than likely based on the reports I've read).

Maybe, just maybe, the alleged victim was a drunk drama queen who made a regrettable error of judgement and in hindsight wanted some kind of moral redress.

As far as I can tell it's the most likely scenario regardless of what I think of the horribly cretinous nature of the alleged perpetrator.

For mine Lovett's statement at least read like a truthful post-fact account of events.

Just because Gatto was Gatto doesn't mean everything he did was wrong.


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saints66 wrote:
stinger wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:
stinger wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:
stinger wrote:P



FOOTBALLER Andrew Lovett's ex-girlfriend claims she feared she would die as he held her hostage and bashed her.


Ms Watson told the Herald Sun Lovett bombarded her with 180 text messages for two months after their tumultuous breakup on February 4 last year.

In one, he allegedly said he was a "special person" who "could probably get away with murder".


pretty true...what he said....

:roll: :roll: :evil:
Awww Stinger, that's low even for you.

You are reporting hearsay on what he allegedly said and implying that he did in fact "get away with murder" in regard to this case.

The verdict was "Not Guilty"; accept it and move on, and don't muddy the waters with your churlish bias.
and you know where you can go creep.....not guilty has never meant innocent ....and i will never regard f****** a drunk girl as okay....the guys an animal....
If there is any problems with the Australian Justice System, it is because creeps like you inhabit it.

Accept the verdict. We have got past vigilante's stringing up the nearest black man in this country.

Well, some of us have..... :roll:
don't bring race into it lowlife ....f****** a drunk girl is a low act...whether you are black white or poka- dotted, clown....you have been defending this creep right from the start ..but we know your history don't we... :roll: :roll: :roll:

accept the verdict.????..not on your nellie...and i hope the dpp don't either....that's what appeal courts are for...or are you going to insult them and call them racist also...moron.... :roll: :roll: :roll:
The prosecution has no right of appeal against a not guilty verdict, in Victoria. They only have the right to appeal against the sentence in a guilty result. It is called the principle of double jeopardy.

correct...nor in any other common law jurisdiction....well, that's what every one thought....couple of recent cases are interesting though.....there was a murder trial in canberra...jury convicted the guy.....court of appeal acquitted him...dpp appealed to the high court...high court ordered a new trial...guy was retried by judge alone...who acquitted him....one of the reasons i suspect that the act is now legislating to abolish trials by judge alone.....the jury got it right the first time...imho....

second case involves an american guy convicted of manslaughter in this country,...american state is going to retry him for murder....but you are right re lovett....


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Richter wrote:
markp wrote:
Richter wrote:Now, each to their own, but having sex with another person within a few hours at most after having sex with and having been accused of rape by someone else in front of your workmates.... hmmm... makes you wonder what sort of a person does that..... one who views women as objects for his own gratification and not a lot else?....
People have sex in times of great stress and grief too... and I think it was probably as irrelevant as it was open to be misinterpreted.
we expect a jury to deliberate a difficult case like this one, but they aren't able to appropriate reasonable weight as to interpret the accused's state of mind afterwards by the actions that he undertook?

Neither did the jury hear about his priors.

They didn't even get to hear him be questioned, put through the wringer, unlike his victim , who got to relive her trauma in the witness box for zero tangible result.

Yeah, terrific system of justice this one. It's based on the British system.... as mentioned, there are other ways.... This system fails victims of sexual assaults. Another victim is tainted today.... and twelve jurists have to look themselves in the mirror tonight. I wonder how many distrust their decision now they can read ALL the facts....
I see your points entirely... fairly high chance the guy is a cretin, that doesn't mean what he had done before or after was relevant to his guilt here, and maybe as someone said it all swung on "I thought it was you"... and yes, just maybe she got caught up and swept along with everything that followed from there. Maybe she even started to believe that's what happened.... or maybe it actually did. Too many maybe's, he walks.

It must be very hard to decide what happened when it comes down to the word and version of 2 intoxicated people in a room... but as I often say, the lesson is it's still a jungle out there and you need to keep your wits about you, especially if you're a chick, cos charged and found guilty or not, it doesn't undo what happened.


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I said earlier that "i thought it was you" could become important, but I got nailed for saying that…
I honestly thought though that anybody sleeping with someone that intoxicated could amount to 'rape' by law.


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stinger wrote:
saints66 wrote:
stinger wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:
stinger wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:
stinger wrote:P



FOOTBALLER Andrew Lovett's ex-girlfriend claims she feared she would die as he held her hostage and bashed her.


Ms Watson told the Herald Sun Lovett bombarded her with 180 text messages for two months after their tumultuous breakup on February 4 last year.

In one, he allegedly said he was a "special person" who "could probably get away with murder".


pretty true...what he said....

:roll: :roll: :evil:
Awww Stinger, that's low even for you.

You are reporting hearsay on what he allegedly said and implying that he did in fact "get away with murder" in regard to this case.

The verdict was "Not Guilty"; accept it and move on, and don't muddy the waters with your churlish bias.
and you know where you can go creep.....not guilty has never meant innocent ....and i will never regard f****** a drunk girl as okay....the guys an animal....
If there is any problems with the Australian Justice System, it is because creeps like you inhabit it.

Accept the verdict. We have got past vigilante's stringing up the nearest black man in this country.

Well, some of us have..... :roll:
don't bring race into it lowlife ....f****** a drunk girl is a low act...whether you are black white or poka- dotted, clown....you have been defending this creep right from the start ..but we know your history don't we... :roll: :roll: :roll:

accept the verdict.????..not on your nellie...and i hope the dpp don't either....that's what appeal courts are for...or are you going to insult them and call them racist also...moron.... :roll: :roll: :roll:
The prosecution has no right of appeal against a not guilty verdict, in Victoria. They only have the right to appeal against the sentence in a guilty result. It is called the principle of double jeopardy.

correct...nor in any other common law jurisdiction....well, that's what every one thought....couple of recent cases are interesting though.....there was a murder trial in canberra...jury convicted the guy.....court of appeal acquitted him...dpp appealed to the high court...high court ordered a new trial...guy was retried by judge alone...who acquitted him....one of the reasons i suspect that the act is now legislating to abolish trials by judge alone.....the jury got it right the first time...imho....

second case involves an american guy convicted of manslaughter in this country,...american state is going to retry him for murder....but you are right re lovett....
Didn't need all the gobbledy-gook Stinger.

It's quite simple to say "I, Stinger, was wrong."

Lawyer..... Pfft.


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joffaboy wrote:
stinger wrote:
joffaboy wrote:
Please dont respnd to me again, I dont want to converse with lying cowards.
don't want me to respond to you??then stfu creep....everything i did was correct...that c*** threatened my family...edited the posts i sent to him, then slunk off into the night like the piece of trash he was...and you are not much better...a wanna be cross dressing internet warrier...ffs...get a life...or a proper job...book keeper. pffttt :roll: :roll: :roll: your the f****** liar....
lol - they weren't edited. You have been found out and everyone on here knows that all your aggressiveness is nothing more than pathetic bluster.

I read the PM's the abuse and insults you threw at milton, and he gave you his phone number but your bluff was called.

HILARIOUS :D :D
of course they were edited...that prick threatened my family...told me i didn't know who i was dealing with...said he had mafia connections...yeah..i believed him.. :roll: :roll: gave me a telephone number.....of course i didn;t ring him and went to the police, idiot...so would you...the guy was a low life scum and you are defending him......no wonder the people on here that i know who have met you all say your are a smarmie creep, and that you make pple feel like washing their hands after shaking yours.... :roll: :roll: :roll:

call my bluff??..this is a f****** internet forum....hardly think anybody on here would frighten anybody else..... :roll: :roll: :roll:


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Post: # 1111392Post stinger »

GrumpyOne wrote:
stinger wrote:
saints66 wrote:
stinger wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:
stinger wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:
stinger wrote:P



FOOTBALLER Andrew Lovett's ex-girlfriend claims she feared she would die as he held her hostage and bashed her.


Ms Watson told the Herald Sun Lovett bombarded her with 180 text messages for two months after their tumultuous breakup on February 4 last year.

In one, he allegedly said he was a "special person" who "could probably get away with murder".


pretty true...what he said....

:roll: :roll: :evil:
Awww Stinger, that's low even for you.

You are reporting hearsay on what he allegedly said and implying that he did in fact "get away with murder" in regard to this case.

The verdict was "Not Guilty"; accept it and move on, and don't muddy the waters with your churlish bias.
and you know where you can go creep.....not guilty has never meant innocent ....and i will never regard f****** a drunk girl as okay....the guys an animal....
If there is any problems with the Australian Justice System, it is because creeps like you inhabit it.

Accept the verdict. We have got past vigilante's stringing up the nearest black man in this country.

Well, some of us have..... :roll:
don't bring race into it lowlife ....f****** a drunk girl is a low act...whether you are black white or poka- dotted, clown....you have been defending this creep right from the start ..but we know your history don't we... :roll: :roll: :roll:

accept the verdict.????..not on your nellie...and i hope the dpp don't either....that's what appeal courts are for...or are you going to insult them and call them racist also...moron.... :roll: :roll: :roll:
The prosecution has no right of appeal against a not guilty verdict, in Victoria. They only have the right to appeal against the sentence in a guilty result. It is called the principle of double jeopardy.

correct...nor in any other common law jurisdiction....well, that's what every one thought....couple of recent cases are interesting though.....there was a murder trial in canberra...jury convicted the guy.....court of appeal acquitted him...dpp appealed to the high court...high court ordered a new trial...guy was retried by judge alone...who acquitted him....one of the reasons i suspect that the act is now legislating to abolish trials by judge alone.....the jury got it right the first time...imho....

second case involves an american guy convicted of manslaughter in this country,...american state is going to retry him for murder....but you are right re lovett....
Didn't need all the gobbledy-gook Stinger.

It's quite simple to say "I, Stinger, was wrong."

Lawyer..... Pfft.
it's a basic concept, idiot..even ignorant cleaners know that you can't be tried twice for the same offence......i intentionally posted that.... i had my reasons...and my reasons will remain my reasons...but.i achieved what i was looking for... :twisted: :wink:


ps..re your photo..
your picture was passed around for a laugh for a few days but it put us all off our cornflakes so we had to burn it.

who wears hawaiian shirts these days ffs.... :twisted: 8-)
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stinger wrote:

of course they were edited...that prick threatened my family...told me i didn't know who i was dealing with...said he had mafia connections...yeah..i believed him.. :roll: :roll: gave me a telephone number.....of course i didn;t ring him and went to the police, idiot...so would you...the guy was a low life scum and you are defending him......no wonder the people on here that i know who have met you all say your are a smarmie creep, and that you make pple feel like washing their hands after shaking yours.... :roll: :roll: :roll:

call my bluff??..this is a f****** internet forum....hardly think anybody on here would frighten anybody else..... :roll: :roll: :roll:
Liar liar pants on fire.

Backpeddling at a million miles an hour.

Hilarious. FFS you must think everyone here is a fool.

Your bluff well and truly called matey. As for meeting people on this forum, we all have a good laugh at you when we get together, because we know you haven't the balls to show up

Just like when milton called your bluff :D :D

lol @ stinger.

Now dont reply to me again _ i dont like conversing with liars.


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There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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joffaboy wrote:
stinger wrote:

of course they were edited...that prick threatened my family...told me i didn't know who i was dealing with...said he had mafia connections...yeah..i believed him.. :roll: :roll: gave me a telephone number.....of course i didn;t ring him and went to the police, idiot...so would you...the guy was a low life scum and you are defending him......no wonder the people on here that i know who have met you all say your are a smarmie creep, and that you make pple feel like washing their hands after shaking yours.... :roll: :roll: :roll:

call my bluff??..this is a f****** internet forum....hardly think anybody on here would frighten anybody else..... :roll: :roll: :roll:
Liar liar pants on fire.

Backpeddling at a million miles an hour.

Hilarious. FFS you must think everyone here is a fool.

Your bluff well and truly called matey. As for meeting people on this forum, we all have a good laugh at you when we get together, because we know you haven't the balls to show up

Just like when milton called your bluff :D :D

lol @ stinger.

Now dont reply to me again _ i dont like conversing with liars.
still cross dressing these days clown..????..i was no more frightened of that piece of scum than i'm frightened by a would be bully like you....who rings arseholes anyway.???....i certainly don't...i don't want to have anything to do with clowns like you either...you turn my stomach....but.we all know you need the last word so i guess this will continue until locked.... :roll: :twisted: :evil:


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dragit wrote:I said earlier that "i thought it was you" could become important, but I got nailed for saying that…
I honestly thought though that anybody sleeping with someone that intoxicated could amount to 'rape' by law.
juries suck...


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stinger wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:
stinger wrote:
saints66 wrote:
stinger wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:
stinger wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:
stinger wrote:P



FOOTBALLER Andrew Lovett's ex-girlfriend claims she feared she would die as he held her hostage and bashed her.


Ms Watson told the Herald Sun Lovett bombarded her with 180 text messages for two months after their tumultuous breakup on February 4 last year.

In one, he allegedly said he was a "special person" who "could probably get away with murder".


pretty true...what he said....

:roll: :roll: :evil:
Awww Stinger, that's low even for you.

You are reporting hearsay on what he allegedly said and implying that he did in fact "get away with murder" in regard to this case.

The verdict was "Not Guilty"; accept it and move on, and don't muddy the waters with your churlish bias.
and you know where you can go creep.....not guilty has never meant innocent ....and i will never regard f****** a drunk girl as okay....the guys an animal....
If there is any problems with the Australian Justice System, it is because creeps like you inhabit it.

Accept the verdict. We have got past vigilante's stringing up the nearest black man in this country.

Well, some of us have..... :roll:
don't bring race into it lowlife ....f****** a drunk girl is a low act...whether you are black white or poka- dotted, clown....you have been defending this creep right from the start ..but we know your history don't we... :roll: :roll: :roll:

accept the verdict.????..not on your nellie...and i hope the dpp don't either....that's what appeal courts are for...or are you going to insult them and call them racist also...moron.... :roll: :roll: :roll:
The prosecution has no right of appeal against a not guilty verdict, in Victoria. They only have the right to appeal against the sentence in a guilty result. It is called the principle of double jeopardy.

correct...nor in any other common law jurisdiction....well, that's what every one thought....couple of recent cases are interesting though.....there was a murder trial in canberra...jury convicted the guy.....court of appeal acquitted him...dpp appealed to the high court...high court ordered a new trial...guy was retried by judge alone...who acquitted him....one of the reasons i suspect that the act is now legislating to abolish trials by judge alone.....the jury got it right the first time...imho....

second case involves an american guy convicted of manslaughter in this country,...american state is going to retry him for murder....but you are right re lovett....
Didn't need all the gobbledy-gook Stinger.

It's quite simple to say "I, Stinger, was wrong."

Lawyer..... Pfft.
it's a basic concept, idiot..even ignorant cleaners know that you can't be tried twice for the same offence......i intentionally posted that.... i had my reasons...and my reasons will remain my reasons...but.i achieved what i was looking for... :twisted: :wink:


ps..re your photo..
your picture was passed around for a laugh for a few days but it put us all off our cornflakes so we had to burn it.

who wears hawaiian shirts these days ffs.... :twisted: 8-)
That could be your biggest lie and you have made plenty. Like I said see you Saturday night at your place in Broadbeach, the liars club. The more I read the more I worry for your health. Lying can be very bad for it. Now go back to your cleaning job old fella.


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i intentionally posted that.... i had my reasons...and my reasons will remain my reasons...but.i achieved what i was looking for...
Wow.

That's called jumping the shark....

Ironical or what.


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No misplaced ego in this thread or nuthin'...

Excuse me. I have farting to do.


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stinger wrote:

ps..re your photo..
your picture was passed around for a laugh for a few days but it put us all off our cornflakes so we had to burn it.

who wears hawaiian shirts these days ffs.... :twisted: 8-)
Pity about the photo.... I would have autographed it for you.

And the answer to your question?

Hawaiians.


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markp wrote:
i intentionally posted that.... i had my reasons...and my reasons will remain my reasons...but.i achieved what i was looking for...
Wow.

That's called jumping the shark....

Ironical or what.
Its called being a laughing stock and being caught out once again.

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joffaboy wrote:
markp wrote:
i intentionally posted that.... i had my reasons...and my reasons will remain my reasons...but.i achieved what i was looking for...
Wow.

That's called jumping the shark....

Ironical or what.
Its called being a laughing stock and being caught out once again.

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scaredy pants!!!!!! :D :D

lol - hilarious.
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Please don't lock this thread !!!!!! Grown men talking Mafia and keyboard threats is GOLD !!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Hawaiian Shirts :lol: :lol: FFS this is GOLD..... Liar Liar pants on fire .... :lol: Did to Did not Did to Did not .... :lol: More please..!!!! :wink:


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Middo wrote:Please don't lock this thread !!!!!! Grown men talking Mafia and keyboard threats is GOLD !!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Hawaiian Shirts :lol: :lol: FFS this is GOLD..... Liar Liar pants on fire .... :lol: Did to Did not Did to Did not .... :lol: More please..!!!! :wink:
Joking aren't you? :shock:


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joffaboy wrote:
markp wrote:
i intentionally posted that.... i had my reasons...and my reasons will remain my reasons...but.i achieved what i was looking for...
Wow.

That's called jumping the shark....

Ironical or what.
Its called being a laughing stock and being caught out once again.

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scaredy pants!!!!!! :D :D

lol - hilarious.
That is not a genuine 'jump the shark' graphic until Homer wears a black leather jacket.


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Middo wrote:Please don't lock this thread !!!!!! Grown men talking Mafia and keyboard threats is GOLD !!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Hawaiian Shirts :lol: :lol: FFS this is GOLD..... Liar Liar pants on fire .... :lol: Did to Did not Did to Did not .... :lol: More please..!!!! :wink:
I know all time classic :wink:

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Lance or James??

There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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Middo wrote:Please don't lock this thread !!!!!! Grown men talking Mafia and keyboard threats is GOLD !!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Hawaiian Shirts :lol: :lol: FFS this is GOLD..... Liar Liar pants on fire .... :lol: Did to Did not Did to Did not .... :lol: More please..!!!! :wink:
...milton was a really nasty piece of work....started sending me threatening pm's....in the end i responded by telling him to flower off with a few choice expletives....why not...anyway he did threaten me..made out he was italian and had mafia connections and that i was putting my wife and kids at risk,...gave me a phone number which i gave to the police....could have been the number of the daily planet for all i know.....anyway the creep got banned....he still has some mates on here , which kinda says something to me.....anyway one of them keeps bringing up his twisted version of events anytime i post something he doesn't agree with...i usually try to ignore him and his mates as they are not worth getting banned for....you can have your laugh..but to me it's pathetic, not funny... :roll: each to their own i suppose...


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