Not sure all of that lot would gel together to help us get our 2nd flag, a few of them would help the cause though.SaintSimmo wrote:Summary of players we've been linked to for people not up to date:
Bruce (GWS)
Delaney (NM)
T.Adams (GWS)
Viv Michie (FRE)
J.White (SYD)
B.Griffiths (RICH)
Batchelor (RICH)
Savage (HAW)
Hallahan (HAW)
Frawley (MLB)
D.Martin (RICH)
Patton (GWS)
Might have missed a few
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Also: Sam Mayes (BL)SaintSimmo wrote:Summary of players we've been linked to for people not up to date:
Bruce (GWS)
Delaney (NM)
T.Adams (GWS) Inside mid, yes
Viv Michie (FRE)
J.White (SYD) No chance if they lose Mumford
B.Griffiths (RICH)
Batchelor (RICH)
Savage (HAW)
Hallahan (HAW)
Frawley (MLB)
D.Martin (RICH) Sounds like Watters doesn't want him around
Patton (GWS)
Might have missed a few
Hardingham (Ess) already have enough HBF
Dale Thomas (Coll) supposedly did a medical for the Saints - surely he goes to Carlton if anywhere
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MCG-Unit wrote:Edit: Should have been Myers (Ess) not Mayes (BL) Damn edit functionSaintSimmo wrote:Summary of players we've been linked to for people not up to date:
Bruce (GWS)
Delaney (NM)
T.Adams (GWS) Inside mid, yes
Viv Michie (FRE)
J.White (SYD) No chance if they lose Mumford
B.Griffiths (RICH)
Batchelor (RICH)
Savage (HAW)
Hallahan (HAW)
Frawley (MLB)
D.Martin (RICH) Sounds like Watters doesn't want him around
Patton (GWS)
Might have missed a few
Also: Myers (Ess)
Hardingham (Ess) already have enough HBF
Dale Thomas (Coll) supposedly did a medical for the Saints - surely he goes to Carlton if anywhere
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Crock 'r *$&#noob wrote:We had a chance to get Viv Michie but we got Sam Crocker instead.
Put him on the list :
Brad Howard, Nick Winmar, Cripps , Crocker
Armitage ahead of Riewoldt and Frawley.
Lynch ahead of all sorts of good players.
No wonder Lyon was so keen to trade, Polo was like a superstar compared to some of our choices.
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I realistically think our trades could like this, as I said realistically.
We will get Bruce & 35 from GWS for Fisher.
Delaney from North for a third rounder or they will package Delaney with 26 for Dal
I think Ledger will want to go home, whether that's for Michie or 3rd, 4th rounder don't know.
We will probably look at 1 or 2 other fringe mids.
We will get Bruce & 35 from GWS for Fisher.
Delaney from North for a third rounder or they will package Delaney with 26 for Dal
I think Ledger will want to go home, whether that's for Michie or 3rd, 4th rounder don't know.
We will probably look at 1 or 2 other fringe mids.
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Fair points. No wonder Lyon didnt trust our recruiters.Kickit wrote:Crock 'r *$&#noob wrote:We had a chance to get Viv Michie but we got Sam Crocker instead.
Put him on the list :
Brad Howard, Nick Winmar, Cripps , Crocker
Armitage ahead of Riewoldt and Frawley.
Lynch ahead of all sorts of good players.
No wonder Lyon was so keen to trade, Polo was like a superstar compared to some of our choices.
Because they were effing terrible.
I think some of our fans feel the same way and thats why they dont trust youth and want to desperately hang on to the past 'almost is better than nothing' .
But we have no choice but to embrace the future and trust Elshaugh. So far hes got some rippers.
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I think we picked Raph Clarke ahead of Reiwoldt? Which is just as bad! Armitage and Frawley were a different draft?
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That could affectively give us Bruce and Delaney for Fisher ( pretty good outcome IMO ).sax wrote:I realistically think our trades could like this, as I said realistically.
We will get Bruce & 35 from GWS for Fisher.
Delaney from North for a third rounder or they will package Delaney with 26 for Dal
I think Ledger will want to go home, whether that's for Michie or 3rd, 4th rounder don't know.
We will probably look at 1 or 2 other fringe mids.
Your other alternative we end up with picks 3, 20( ish ) , 26, 35, 37. I guess that depends how good the 3rd round of the draft will be.
But we'd need to delist a couple more players to get them.
I'd prefer it if we could get Bruce and 18 for Fisher and 35.
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Just to rub it in.... Picks following ours
2006
Armitage
N.Brown
A.Everitt
J.Frawley
J.Riewoldt
2007
McEvoy
Dangerfield
Veszpremi
Rioli
Ebert
Grimes
2006
Armitage
N.Brown
A.Everitt
J.Frawley
J.Riewoldt
2007
McEvoy
Dangerfield
Veszpremi
Rioli
Ebert
Grimes
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2007 we needed a future ruckman and took the 2nd ruck in the draft - Kruezer was 1 and I think an argument can be made as to who got the better deal there.BigMart wrote:Just to rub it in.... Picks following ours
2006
Armitage
N.Brown
A.Everitt
J.Frawley
J.Riewoldt
2007
McEvoy
Dangerfield
Veszpremi
Rioli
Ebert
Grimes
2006 - I would argue this is still a moving target as Armiateg is still improving and J Riewoldt - who we didn't need that type of player - is the main challenger.
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Drafting a type of player with a first round pick, is dangerous, in fact madness... Because you overlook players
Simple philosophy which every recruiter agrees
Best available player....
How would the 2 Riewoldts have looked in the same fwd line 2009/2010
How would have Patrick Dangerfield or Cyril have looked in the same teams
While we're at it.... Jackson Trengove in 2008 instead of Lynch.... Fyfe in 2009 instead of Lovett
Simple philosophy which every recruiter agrees
Best available player....
How would the 2 Riewoldts have looked in the same fwd line 2009/2010
How would have Patrick Dangerfield or Cyril have looked in the same teams
While we're at it.... Jackson Trengove in 2008 instead of Lynch.... Fyfe in 2009 instead of Lovett
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I don't think it is. Just drafting Ruckman with your first round is madness.BigMart wrote:Drafting a type of player with a first round pick, is dangerous, in fact madness... Because you overlook players
Simple philosophy which every recruiter agrees
Best available player....
How would the 2 Riewoldts have looked in the same fwd line 2009/2010
How would have Patrick Dangerfield or Cyril have looked in the same teams
While we're at it.... Jackson Trengove in 2008 instead of Lynch.... Fyfe in 2009 instead of Lovett
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Raph and the cousin were in different drafts.R. Harvey 3 votes! wrote:I think we picked Raph Clarke ahead of Reiwoldt? Which is just as bad! Armitage and Frawley were a different draft?
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You mean to say we could have had Everitt and Veszpremi running around for us and we missed out? Hindsight is useless when talking about drafting BMBigMart wrote:Just to rub it in.... Picks following ours
2006
Armitage
N.Brown
A.Everitt
J.Frawley
J.Riewoldt
2007
McEvoy
Dangerfield
Veszpremi
Rioli
Ebert
Grimes
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Thought we were talking about 2013
Can we ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever move on from past selections and hindsight assisted blunders???????
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No.Dr Spaceman wrote:Thought we were talking about 2013![]()
Can we ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever move on from past selections and hindsight assisted blunders???????
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BM forgets you get players that you need, not just the next best player... no point having 5 ruckman etc, or 15 defenders. All to easy to look back at the past, heck, you could do it at any club.
If Lovett had actually worked out, we'd have a flag in 10, but the flog lost his ways. It was he that we needed, then and there, we didn't need a 18yo waiting a few years for him to develop, we got what we needed, but he went and stuffed it up.
Armo and Benny are good players imo.
If Lovett had actually worked out, we'd have a flag in 10, but the flog lost his ways. It was he that we needed, then and there, we didn't need a 18yo waiting a few years for him to develop, we got what we needed, but he went and stuffed it up.
Armo and Benny are good players imo.
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What a Barry Crocker that turned out to benoob wrote:We had a chance to get Viv Michie but we got Sam Crocker instead.
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BigMart wrote:Just to rub it in.... Picks following ours
2006
Armitage
N.Brown - is average like his brother
A.Everitt - the definition of ordinary
J.Frawley - plenty of injuries, has had one good year
J.Riewoldt - biggest frontrunner and whinger in the comp
2007
McEvoy
Dangerfield - yes we missed out here
Veszpremi - who??
Rioli - Hamstring King of the AFL - can hardly string 3 games together
Ebert - sooky la la who went home
Grimes - on the full time injury list
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I take it you're a glass half empty kind of guy? Some of those are v good players.Devilhead wrote:BigMart wrote:Just to rub it in.... Picks following ours
2006
Armitage
N.Brown - is average like his brother
A.Everitt - the definition of ordinary
J.Frawley - plenty of injuries, has had one good year
J.Riewoldt - biggest frontrunner and whinger in the comp
2007
McEvoy
Dangerfield - yes we missed out here
Veszpremi - who??
Rioli - Hamstring King of the AFL - can hardly string 3 games together
Ebert - sooky la la who went home
Grimes - on the full time injury list
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I agree but they are not without their problems - some bigger than otherssuss wrote: Some of those are v good players.
I like to see it from both sides
Not forgetting that Armo and Mc Evoy can be very good players as well
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Posted this in the Dusty thread, but Niall suggests here GWS are interested in him now and could use their No1 pick
This would shift the goal posts a bit !
Boyd to Dees? Scharenberg then a possibility or trade pick 3 to them with or without Fisher for a package ?
Posted this in the Dusty thread, but Niall suggests here GWS are interested in him now and could use their No1 pick
This would shift the goal posts a bit !
Boyd to Dees? Scharenberg then a possibility or trade pick 3 to them with or without Fisher for a package ?
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It's common knowledge
You draft for talent,
and trade (Rookie, Pre Season Draft, Free Agency) for needs... Such as Ruck, FB etc...
It's what successful clubs, Hawthorn, Coll, Sydney, Geel have done....
Immediate concerns are never addressed by 18yo player anyways..... Ridiculous suggest, especially with ruckmen... Who are extremely hard to gauge at 17/18....
I agree DH
Armo and Ben are not flops.... But were not the best players available (in hindsight) ATT they were certainly in the mix.... However I think us and a couple of other clubs missed the boat on Frawley and Jack.... We had inside knowledge
If Ben was drafted because he is a Ruckman, well that's a mistake.... If he was drafted because he was rated higher than Danger... So be it?!
You draft for talent,
and trade (Rookie, Pre Season Draft, Free Agency) for needs... Such as Ruck, FB etc...
It's what successful clubs, Hawthorn, Coll, Sydney, Geel have done....
Immediate concerns are never addressed by 18yo player anyways..... Ridiculous suggest, especially with ruckmen... Who are extremely hard to gauge at 17/18....
I agree DH
Armo and Ben are not flops.... But were not the best players available (in hindsight) ATT they were certainly in the mix.... However I think us and a couple of other clubs missed the boat on Frawley and Jack.... We had inside knowledge
If Ben was drafted because he is a Ruckman, well that's a mistake.... If he was drafted because he was rated higher than Danger... So be it?!