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Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
Yep plenty of talent, just a system that doesn’t know how to develop and get the most out of it.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
The coach doesn't constantly turn the ball over
The coach doesn't lay insipid tackles
The coach is not the one running slowly
The coach is not the one shanking kicks
IT IS THE f****** PLAYERS
The tactical gameplan sucks too - that is the coach!
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
Yep. Five years and so many of our young fellas who should be maturing into quality players are going backwards. Must be bloody disheartening for them. Frustrating as buggery. Seriously, put Curly on ignore, it’s much better.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
st.byron wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:36pmWHAT QUALITY PLAYERS?!?!?! WHAT ARE YOU f****** TALKING ABOUT?!!!!!!
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
I honestly don’t see talent.
I see No one that excites me even a Little.
I see more talent at Carlton I’m not Joking.
I see No one that excites me even a Little.
I see more talent at Carlton I’m not Joking.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
The slow train to nowhere. When can I get off?
However, we had Rice, Marshall, Paton, Pierce, Freeman, Long, and Mckenzie. Not many games between those players. Then we had the bit players...those who drift in and out of games, like Billings and Sinclair. Has anyone else noticed that in third quarters, these two guys almost always go missing?
Steven had a shocker.
It looks like a team that's starting from scratch with very little in the way of quality leadership.
However, we had Rice, Marshall, Paton, Pierce, Freeman, Long, and Mckenzie. Not many games between those players. Then we had the bit players...those who drift in and out of games, like Billings and Sinclair. Has anyone else noticed that in third quarters, these two guys almost always go missing?
Steven had a shocker.
It looks like a team that's starting from scratch with very little in the way of quality leadership.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
Is there a worst kick in the comp comp. Steven would be on the podium. Sinclair would be ok for technique the few times he is not caught htb but his results would be medal class crap. You know Alan you really cannot afford men that kick so poorly no matter how often they get the ball or how hard they have tried - outcomes not effort. And do you really practice handballing in a match situation or is it pass the parcel. Numb with disappointment.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
No mate. The reason they are making all those errors is because they are demoralised, uninspired, devoid of confidence, playing for an empty shell of a coach. They are mentally shot, not connected to a clear sense of belief and purpose. Hamstrung by a lame duck leader. Teams who are executing their skills and playing with cohesion are mentally together. The performance is a result of their mental state, not a reflection of their lack on innate ability.saintadamski wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:36pmThe coach doesn't constantly turn the ball over
The coach doesn't lay insipid tackles
The coach is not the one running slowly
The coach is not the one shanking kicks
IT IS THE f****** PLAYERS
The tactical gameplan sucks too - that is the coach!
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
I do agree with you to a pointst.byron wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:40pmNo mate. The reason they are making all those errors is because they are demoralised, uninspired, devoid of confidence, playing for an empty shell of a coach. They are mentally shot, not connected to a clear sense of belief and purpose. Hamstrung by a lame duck leader. Teams who are executing their skills and playing with cohesion are mentally together. The performance is a result of their mental state, not a reflection of their lack on innate ability.saintadamski wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:36pmThe coach doesn't constantly turn the ball over
The coach doesn't lay insipid tackles
The coach is not the one running slowly
The coach is not the one shanking kicks
IT IS THE f****** PLAYERS
The tactical gameplan sucks too - that is the coach!
There is no leadership, there is no cohesion...but to think we have quality players is simply absurd
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
Flick the witches hats: Brown and Carlisle!!!saintadamski wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:24pm Based on this game (and many others)
Delist
- Newnes
- Sinclair
- Armitage
- Lonie
- Geary
- McKenzie
- Rice
- Brown
Trade
- Billings
- Acres (Maybe)
- Steven
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
How do you teach brains - we have got some dumb footballers. (besides lacking basic skills)
Depressing.
Depressing.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
They are incredibly slow aren't they...like watching barges move in wide circles...and shocking use of the footy!saintkev wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:43pmFlick the witches hats: Brown and Carlisle!!!saintadamski wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:24pm Based on this game (and many others)
Delist
- Newnes
- Sinclair
- Armitage
- Lonie
- Geary
- McKenzie
- Rice
- Brown
Trade
- Billings
- Acres (Maybe)
- Steven
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
Don’t agree. Given a quality coach I reckon we have them. Billings, Sinclair I rate, Steele, Membrey, Gresham, Acres, Dunstan with the right mids around him, Ross is bordering on elite, to name a few.saintadamski wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:43pmI do agree with you to a pointst.byron wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:40pmNo mate. The reason they are making all those errors is because they are demoralised, uninspired, devoid of confidence, playing for an empty shell of a coach. They are mentally shot, not connected to a clear sense of belief and purpose. Hamstrung by a lame duck leader. Teams who are executing their skills and playing with cohesion are mentally together. The performance is a result of their mental state, not a reflection of their lack on innate ability.saintadamski wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:36pmThe coach doesn't constantly turn the ball over
The coach doesn't lay insipid tackles
The coach is not the one running slowly
The coach is not the one shanking kicks
IT IS THE f****** PLAYERS
The tactical gameplan sucks too - that is the coach!
There is no leadership, there is no cohesion...but to think we have quality players is simply absurd
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
Summed up our mind set in the last two minutes Marshall has Billing’s free two meters away ignores him the turns to kick under pressure turn over. Then Long is running out of the middle with pressure from behind ignores a basic handball to a free Ross and boots a 35 meter up and under into our forward line.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
Mental state is shot, they’re not dumb. Just demoralised.derby Street wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:45pm How do you teach brains - we have got some dumb footballers. (besides lacking basic skills)
Depressing.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
They all look dumb, slow and poorly skilled because we have no system.derby Street wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:45pm How do you teach brains - we have got some dumb footballers. (besides lacking basic skills)
Depressing.
No one knows what to do when they get it, and no one knows what the bloke that has the ball is going to do with it.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
Just for perspective, I think it's worth posting our mission statement again The key goals for the Saints in their 2014-18 strategy:
■Be a top-four side positioned to be a consistent premiership contender.
■Have more than 50,000 members in Australia.
■Have 10,000 members in New Zealand.
■Deliver annual surpluses year-on-year to enable investment in strategic initiatives that will underpin a prosperous future.
■Have an admired culture, built on respect and accountability.
■Broaden their presence in the Bayside region, their heartland.
■Complete the refurbishment of Moorabbin as a football, community and retail hub.
■By 2020, win the club’s second premiership.
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■Be a top-four side positioned to be a consistent premiership contender.
■Have more than 50,000 members in Australia.
■Have 10,000 members in New Zealand.
■Deliver annual surpluses year-on-year to enable investment in strategic initiatives that will underpin a prosperous future.
■Have an admired culture, built on respect and accountability.
■Broaden their presence in the Bayside region, their heartland.
■Complete the refurbishment of Moorabbin as a football, community and retail hub.
■By 2020, win the club’s second premiership.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
Richo sitiing in the box looking out with a glazed stare...sees himself on the big screen and jumps for the phone to make out he is doing something. .. every time.....check it out.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
Well I don't rate Billings and Sinclair....at all.st.byron wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:46pmDon’t agree. Given a quality coach I reckon we have them. Billings, Sinclair I rate, Steele, Membrey, Gresham, Acres, Dunstan with the right mids around him, Ross is bordering on elite, to name a few.saintadamski wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:43pmI do agree with you to a pointst.byron wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:40pmNo mate. The reason they are making all those errors is because they are demoralised, uninspired, devoid of confidence, playing for an empty shell of a coach. They are mentally shot, not connected to a clear sense of belief and purpose. Hamstrung by a lame duck leader. Teams who are executing their skills and playing with cohesion are mentally together. The performance is a result of their mental state, not a reflection of their lack on innate ability.saintadamski wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:36pmThe coach doesn't constantly turn the ball over
The coach doesn't lay insipid tackles
The coach is not the one running slowly
The coach is not the one shanking kicks
IT IS THE f****** PLAYERS
The tactical gameplan sucks too - that is the coach!
There is no leadership, there is no cohesion...but to think we have quality players is simply absurd
No one who watched the last few years of s***, could possibly rate them.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
on trackHardSaint wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:49pm Just for perspective, I think it's worth posting our mission statement again The key goals for the Saints in their 2014-18 strategy:
■Be a top-four side positioned to be a consistent premiership contender.
■Have more than 50,000 members in Australia.
■Have 10,000 members in New Zealand.
■Deliver annual surpluses year-on-year to enable investment in strategic initiatives that will underpin a prosperous future.
■Have an admired culture, built on respect and accountability.
■Broaden their presence in the Bayside region, their heartland.
■Complete the refurbishment of Moorabbin as a football, community and retail hub.
■By 2020, win the club’s second premiership.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
Saw him this evening and thought he looked traumatised. Not up to it.The Fireman wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:50pm Richo sitiing in the box looking out with a glazed stare...sees himself on the big screen and jumps for the phone to make out he is doing something. .. every time.....check it out.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
I'm willing to put Sinclair right up there with Weller.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
Billing’s is a very good player horably used by his coach.
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Re: Match Thread Saints v Dons Round 21 2018
I said this to my son.rodgerfox wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:49pmThey all look dumb, slow and poorly skilled because we have no system.derby Street wrote: ↑Fri 10 Aug 2018 11:45pm How do you teach brains - we have got some dumb footballers. (besides lacking basic skills)
Depressing.
No one knows what to do when they get it, and no one knows what the bloke that has the ball is going to do with it.
I hate the backwards kick - and it comes unstuck too too often, however, if the mids and the forwards are not working harder to make it impossible to kick backwards then that is what we are stuck with. I want the HBF to simply kick it forward and for us to blame the mids/forwards for not honouring the kick.
Lazy players make others look bad - Essendon tore us apart because when they got the ball - they knew someone would make the move to be where it was going.....
Coach/Players - I don't care - just FIX IT YOU DUMB F@RKS!
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