Awkward

[Special]

We fielded 9 players with less than 50 games today, 3 or 4 of them with less than 10. That's an inexperienced team. How are Richmond going with all their injuries?

Err dude, they're 7th on the ladder.

Err dude they're 8th and we are 11th, only one game behind and it's possible we could jump them next week.

Seriously the media should start putting some focus on how well Alan is coaching this year. It's truly an inspirational story what's happening at our club this year.

Let’s see how we go about the Lions.

If we win that, then maybe.

[Bruce G McAbee]

You know in the 80's we celebrated every win because we were poor. But now, sorry, but just winning against poor opposition simply isn't good enough because some of us are running out of time to see a premiership.
I am not settling for mediocrity anymore and we were below mediocrity for the majority of the game.
Simple fact, we only managed 2 goals for two and a half quarters! That simply is not good enough, plus just because Carlisle, Hannerbury etc are coming back isn't going to magically turn us into a better team because without a pre season it's going to take a few weeks before they hit match fitness.
It will be another wasted year and Richo is dead man walking right now and today has staged off the inevitable for another few weeks.
We'll see next week against Brisbane if he secures the rest of the season, or comes under the pump again.

[ss1986]

We fielded 9 players with less than 50 games today, 3 or 4 of them with less than 10. That's an inexperienced team. How are Richmond going with all their injuries?

Err dude, they're 7th on the ladder.

Err dude they're 8th and we are 11th, only one game behind and it's possible we could jump them next week.

Seriously the media should start putting some focus on how well Alan is coaching this year. It's truly an inspirational story what's happening at our club this year.

Let’s see how we go about the Lions.

If we win that, then maybe.

At what point did it become a surprise for us to beat Brisbane down here?

How have we allowed this narrative to come about? Easy..... we accept mediocrity far too easily and gor far too long.

This side, no matter what, SHOULD be beating Brisbane who were well behind us in their development until they found a bloke that can actually coach and inspire them.

[BarryGrogan]

We fielded 9 players with less than 50 games today, 3 or 4 of them with less than 10. That's an inexperienced team. How are Richmond going with all their injuries?

Err dude, they're 7th on the ladder.

But we are 8th on percentage. Only got 23 percentage points off Port in the eight

Why do you think our percentage is so low?

[Linton Lodger]

We fielded 9 players with less than 50 games today, 3 or 4 of them with less than 10. That's an inexperienced team. How are Richmond going with all their injuries?

Err dude, they're 7th on the ladder.

With just 1 more win than us and a fraction of the injury list.

[Linton Lodger]

We smashed them in inside 50s, If we'd kicked straight and avoided a few dumb mistakes, it was a 5 to 7 goal win. Richmond would love such a win at the moment.

But for 6 years, we haven't kicked straight.

For 6 years, we've made the same dumb mistakes.

If that was going to change, it would have by now.

And for 6 years the List has been young and inexperienced and still is.

Acres running forward with the ball after a good passage of play. Does Membrey lead out in front? No, he runs behind his opponent requiring a harder kick from Acres, he doesn't body his opponent to create separation and drops the mark under pressure. That's not coached.

When Dunstan tackles a player who lost the ball and didn't have it, in front of goal. That's not coached.

There were just countless examples of such dumb decision making. That's not coached.

Obviously poor kicking for goal isn't coached and whilst we're particularly poor in that regard, it's really bad across the competition, with the exception of Geelong & Collingwood.

Those guys aren't young and inexperienced.


Richo had a blatant 'kick it to Roo' game plan. It was mildly effective.
But then Roo retired.

And...well....here we are 2 years layer and Cho still hasnt overseen an ounce of improvement across the group. Despite 50 odd games of experience and development into young and highly regarded recruits - we've gone backwards fast.

Membrey is an excellent footballer, playing in a terribly coached and incredibly dysfunctional team.

He's not the only one.


We don't have a top 2 list.

However we have a lot of talent.

It's just so dysfunctional that everyone looks so haphazard.

We fielded 9 players with less than 50 games today, 3 or 4 of them with less than 10. That's an inexperienced team. How are Richmond going with all their injuries?

Lodger, it just sounds like excuses mate. Six years this crap has been going on. Do you genuinely have faith that Richardson can take this team into contention?

That remains to be seen, I certainly see no reason to sack him at the moment.

[Special]

We fielded 9 players with less than 50 games today, 3 or 4 of them with less than 10. That's an inexperienced team. How are Richmond going with all their injuries?

Err dude, they're 7th on the ladder.

But we are 8th on percentage. Only got 23 percentage points off Port in the eight

Why do you think our percentage is so low?

Blight said recently on the radio that percentage means a lot.

A team with a poor percentage is a poor team.

That’s a golden rule that rings true any year. Every year.

[Annoyedsaint]

We smashed them in inside 50s, If we'd kicked straight and avoided a few dumb mistakes, it was a 5 to 7 goal win. Richmond would love such a win at the moment.

But for 6 years, we haven't kicked straight.

For 6 years, we've made the same dumb mistakes.

If that was going to change, it would have by now.

And for 6 years the List has been young and inexperienced and still is.

Acres running forward with the ball after a good passage of play. Does Membrey lead out in front? No, he runs behind his opponent requiring a harder kick from Acres, he doesn't body his opponent to create separation and drops the mark under pressure. That's not coached.

When Dunstan tackles a player who lost the ball and didn't have it, in front of goal. That's not coached.

There were just countless examples of such dumb decision making. That's not coached.

Obviously poor kicking for goal isn't coached and whilst we're particularly poor in that regard, it's really bad across the competition, with the exception of Geelong & Collingwood.

Those guys aren't young and inexperienced.


Richo had a blatant 'kick it to Roo' game plan. It was mildly effective.
But then Roo retired.

And...well....here we are 2 years layer and Cho still hasnt overseen an ounce of improvement across the group. Despite 50 odd games of experience and development into young and highly regarded recruits - we've gone backwards fast.

Membrey is an excellent footballer, playing in a terribly coached and incredibly dysfunctional team.

He's not the only one.


We don't have a top 2 list.

However we have a lot of talent.

It's just so dysfunctional that everyone looks so haphazard.

We fielded 9 players with less than 50 games today, 3 or 4 of them with less than 10. That's an inexperienced team. How are Richmond going with all their injuries?

Lodger, it just sounds like excuses mate. Six years this crap has been going on. Do you genuinely have faith that Richardson can take this team into contention?

That remains to be seen, I certainly see no reason to sack him at the moment.

So many excuses.....what’s the next one?
The coaching tenure has stunk. He’s had 5 years, absolutely zero has happened.
A few arsey wins will not sway me.

Finishing 10th or 11th is another waste of a year resulting in s shite draft pick with minimal currency for trade purposes.

[Linton Lodger]

I'll ask again. With their comparatively miniscule injury list, how are Richmond going? Everyone seems to avoid answering that and call it an excuse.

[SAINT-LEE]

The worst game of football I have watched in 2 years

Which game are you thinking of?

The game I just watched in TSV....insipid.

[st.byron]

We smashed them in inside 50s, If we'd kicked straight and avoided a few dumb mistakes, it was a 5 to 7 goal win. Richmond would love such a win at the moment.

But for 6 years, we haven't kicked straight.

For 6 years, we've made the same dumb mistakes.

If that was going to change, it would have by now.

And for 6 years the List has been young and inexperienced and still is.

Acres running forward with the ball after a good passage of play. Does Membrey lead out in front? No, he runs behind his opponent requiring a harder kick from Acres, he doesn't body his opponent to create separation and drops the mark under pressure. That's not coached.

When Dunstan tackles a player who lost the ball and didn't have it, in front of goal. That's not coached.

There were just countless examples of such dumb decision making. That's not coached.

Obviously poor kicking for goal isn't coached and whilst we're particularly poor in that regard, it's really bad across the competition, with the exception of Geelong & Collingwood.

Those guys aren't young and inexperienced.


Richo had a blatant 'kick it to Roo' game plan. It was mildly effective.
But then Roo retired.

And...well....here we are 2 years layer and Cho still hasnt overseen an ounce of improvement across the group. Despite 50 odd games of experience and development into young and highly regarded recruits - we've gone backwards fast.

Membrey is an excellent footballer, playing in a terribly coached and incredibly dysfunctional team.

He's not the only one.


We don't have a top 2 list.

However we have a lot of talent.

It's just so dysfunctional that everyone looks so haphazard.

We fielded 9 players with less than 50 games today, 3 or 4 of them with less than 10. That's an inexperienced team. How are Richmond going with all their injuries?

Lodger, it just sounds like excuses mate. Six years this crap has been going on. Do you genuinely have faith that Richardson can take this team into contention?

That remains to be seen, I certainly see no reason to sack him at the moment.

You are of course entitled to your opinion mate. So how long do you give him? Is six years of this not enough? At what point does it no longer remain to be seen and a decision needs to be made. Saying, “there’s no reason to sack him at the moment” reads to me like accepting that where we are at is acceptable. In what way is it acceptable? He’s had six years mate. What? Give him eight? How much of this mediocre garbage is enough?

[SAINT-LEE]

If that is enough to demonstrate to the incompetent board that this man is the right person for the job, then close the doors.

We got the result, like Brisbane didn't against Carlton last week and we didn't get completely touched up by an inferior side, as Richmond did against North.

If Andrew Bassat strikes you as incompetent, you've got no clue.

What has he done so far to prove his competence at our football club? Whilst the coach is still here, he is as incompetent as any of them.

To borrow the Nike slogan, should he 'just do it', like Lo Giudice? Now there's an incompetent pillock for you.

So you think a competent Board should sack Richo, in breach of Richo's contract (that only has perhaps 10 weeks to run), without knowing they've got Clarkson, Longmire, Lyon or a solid idea of who could do better?

All when we're 6/6 and about to get Hannebery, Carlisle, Webster and Lonie back, with Steven about 3 weeks behind them.

7,243 supporters, and an embarrassment on TV. We are playing the Gold Coast, in Townsville at 1.45 in the afternoon.

MMM commentary were taking the piss out of the standard of the game.

If you think a 4 point win at that despicable standard is a reason NOT to do SOMETHING... then u also have no idea.

One thing to note....The playing surface was phenomenal! I inspected it thoroughly and was stunned with the tightness of the undergrowth which creates brilliant footing and the perfect amount of give in the grass layer. RATTEN was kneeling and kept pressing the grass .
Whatever they did in townsville to that grass we gotta get it everywhere.

[Linton Lodger]

We smashed them in inside 50s, If we'd kicked straight and avoided a few dumb mistakes, it was a 5 to 7 goal win. Richmond would love such a win at the moment.

But for 6 years, we haven't kicked straight.

For 6 years, we've made the same dumb mistakes.

If that was going to change, it would have by now.

And for 6 years the List has been young and inexperienced and still is.

Acres running forward with the ball after a good passage of play. Does Membrey lead out in front? No, he runs behind his opponent requiring a harder kick from Acres, he doesn't body his opponent to create separation and drops the mark under pressure. That's not coached.

When Dunstan tackles a player who lost the ball and didn't have it, in front of goal. That's not coached.

There were just countless examples of such dumb decision making. That's not coached.

Obviously poor kicking for goal isn't coached and whilst we're particularly poor in that regard, it's really bad across the competition, with the exception of Geelong & Collingwood.

Those guys aren't young and inexperienced.


Richo had a blatant 'kick it to Roo' game plan. It was mildly effective.
But then Roo retired.

And...well....here we are 2 years layer and Cho still hasnt overseen an ounce of improvement across the group. Despite 50 odd games of experience and development into young and highly regarded recruits - we've gone backwards fast.

Membrey is an excellent footballer, playing in a terribly coached and incredibly dysfunctional team.

He's not the only one.


We don't have a top 2 list.

However we have a lot of talent.

It's just so dysfunctional that everyone looks so haphazard.

We fielded 9 players with less than 50 games today, 3 or 4 of them with less than 10. That's an inexperienced team. How are Richmond going with all their injuries?

Lodger, it just sounds like excuses mate. Six years this crap has been going on. Do you genuinely have faith that Richardson can take this team into contention?

That remains to be seen, I certainly see no reason to sack him at the moment.

You are of course entitled to your opinion mate. So how long do you give him? Is six years of this not enough? At what point does it no longer remain to be seen and a decision needs to be made. Saying, “there’s no reason to sack him at the moment” reads to me like accepting that where we are at is acceptable. In what way is it acceptable? He’s had six years mate. What? Give him eight? How much of this mediocre garbage is enough?

For a start it looks like the inclusion of Hannebery, Carlisle and Webster is imminent. Lonie won't be far behind and Steven a few weeks away. Let's see how he goes with those blokes in the team. Let's see what sort of footy we're playing by the end of the season and what sort of momentum we may have. Then if its not up to scratch, be sure we can get someone better.

[Ghost Like]

I'll ask again. With their comparatively miniscule injury list, how are Richmond going? Everyone seems to avoid answering that and call it an excuse.

Just wondering how missing 9 of their top 13 of last year's B&F on Thursday night can be called miniscule?

Injuries are a reason all clubs will struggle at some point. GC today had the same number of inexperienced players on the park, that may explain the closeness of the game, if it doesn't then it may say more about the rest of our players.

[Annoyedsaint]

I'll ask again. With their comparatively miniscule injury list, how are Richmond going? Everyone seems to avoid answering that and call it an excuse.

Richmond have an awful injury list. Comparing the quality of players to ours that are out is laughable.
How can you compare Carlisle, Steven, Etc. to Cotchin, Rance, Lambert, Riewoldt, Short, etc.

Doesn’t even compare!!! and they are still above us due to the depth they have!!

[Linton Lodger]

I'll ask again. With their comparatively miniscule injury list, how are Richmond going? Everyone seems to avoid answering that and call it an excuse.

Just wondering how missing 9 of their top 13 of last year's B&F on Thursday night can be called miniscule?

Injuries are a reason all clubs will struggle at some point. GC today had the same number of inexperienced players on the park, that may explain the closeness of the game, if it doesn't then it may say more about the rest of our players.

How many are actually key players? Riewoldt, Rance and one of their defenders (is it Grimes?). They've had Cotchin out, but he's back in I believe. Perhaps I've missed one or two, but compare and contrast to ours, there's no comparison.

Today's game was only close on the scoreboard (sure we could've coughed it up), but after half time it wasn't really close.

[HighettMan]

I'll ask again. With their comparatively miniscule injury list, how are Richmond going? Everyone seems to avoid answering that and call it an excuse.

Richmond have an awful injury list. Comparing the quality of players to ours that are out is laughable.
How can you compare Carlisle, Steven, Etc. to Cotchin, Rance, Lambert, Riewoldt, Short, etc.

Doesn’t even compare!!! and they are still above us due to the depth they have!!

EXAXTLY! They are a much more developed and experienced list chock full of premiership players that have great cohesion coming from playing many seasons together. And yes their depth is much much deeper than ours, and yet they are struggling due to KPP players missing and yet are only one game in front of us. It has seriously effected them and thier ability to execute thier game plan.

The comparison is it is dam hard to settle a team and execute a game plan when you have KPP structural players out long term, even for the teams that are in their premiership window.

[st.byron]

We smashed them in inside 50s, If we'd kicked straight and avoided a few dumb mistakes, it was a 5 to 7 goal win. Richmond would love such a win at the moment.

But for 6 years, we haven't kicked straight.

For 6 years, we've made the same dumb mistakes.

If that was going to change, it would have by now.

And for 6 years the List has been young and inexperienced and still is.

Acres running forward with the ball after a good passage of play. Does Membrey lead out in front? No, he runs behind his opponent requiring a harder kick from Acres, he doesn't body his opponent to create separation and drops the mark under pressure. That's not coached.

When Dunstan tackles a player who lost the ball and didn't have it, in front of goal. That's not coached.

There were just countless examples of such dumb decision making. That's not coached.

Obviously poor kicking for goal isn't coached and whilst we're particularly poor in that regard, it's really bad across the competition, with the exception of Geelong & Collingwood.

Those guys aren't young and inexperienced.


Richo had a blatant 'kick it to Roo' game plan. It was mildly effective.
But then Roo retired.

And...well....here we are 2 years layer and Cho still hasnt overseen an ounce of improvement across the group. Despite 50 odd games of experience and development into young and highly regarded recruits - we've gone backwards fast.

Membrey is an excellent footballer, playing in a terribly coached and incredibly dysfunctional team.

He's not the only one.


We don't have a top 2 list.

However we have a lot of talent.

It's just so dysfunctional that everyone looks so haphazard.

We fielded 9 players with less than 50 games today, 3 or 4 of them with less than 10. That's an inexperienced team. How are Richmond going with all their injuries?

Lodger, it just sounds like excuses mate. Six years this crap has been going on. Do you genuinely have faith that Richardson can take this team into contention?

That remains to be seen, I certainly see no reason to sack him at the moment.

You are of course entitled to your opinion mate. So how long do you give him? Is six years of this not enough? At what point does it no longer remain to be seen and a decision needs to be made. Saying, “there’s no reason to sack him at the moment” reads to me like accepting that where we are at is acceptable. In what way is it acceptable? He’s had six years mate. What? Give him eight? How much of this mediocre garbage is enough?

For a start it looks like the inclusion of Hannebery, Carlisle and Webster is imminent. Lonie won't be far behind and Steven a few weeks away. Let's see how he goes with those blokes in the team. Let's see what sort of footy we're playing by the end of the season and what sort of momentum we may have. Then if its not up to scratch, be sure we can get someone better.

Mistakenly pressed the thank button instead of the quote button. Lodger, all those blokes were in the team last year except Hannebery, who was ranked 365th of all AFL players last year. (Acknowledge Webster only played 8 games) Nothing has changed mate. Just reads as delusional to me to think that adding those fellas, all of whom bar Hannebery were there last year, will make a massive difference.
We should have got someone better at the end of last year, we’re only marking time with Cho. Only reason he’s still there is money, it’s certainly nothing to do with performance. Just have to agree to disagree. Some people think he deserves more time, others think he’s not competent in the role and he should be replaced asap. Am firmly in the latter camp myself and have been for quite some time. Whatever needs to happen for him to be sacked, I’m in favour of it, even if it means losing games.
We are going nowhere with him as coach.

[Annoyedsaint]

I'll ask again. With their comparatively miniscule injury list, how are Richmond going? Everyone seems to avoid answering that and call it an excuse.

Richmond have an awful injury list. Comparing the quality of players to ours that are out is laughable.
How can you compare Carlisle, Steven, Etc. to Cotchin, Rance, Lambert, Riewoldt, Short, etc.

Doesn’t even compare!!! and they are still above us due to the depth they have!!

EXAXTLY! They are a much more developed and experienced list chock full of premiership players that have great cohesion coming from playing many seasons together. And yes their depth is much much deeper than ours, and yet they are struggling due to KPP players missing and yet are only one game in front of us. It has seriously effected them and thier ability to execute thier game plan.

The comparison is it is dam hard to settle a team and execute a game plan when you have KPP structural players out long term, even for the teams that are in their premiership window.

Balta, Stack, Baker.....yep, real experienced

Of course it affects their game plan, because they are guns missing. Hate to inform you, but ours aren’t ‘guns’, thus why we are bottom 8 with same players and coach.
You actually need to change things when you are shite to actually attempt to get better.

[Ghost Like]

I'll ask again. With their comparatively miniscule injury list, how are Richmond going? Everyone seems to avoid answering that and call it an excuse.

Just wondering how missing 9 of their top 13 of last year's B&F on Thursday night can be called miniscule?

Injuries are a reason all clubs will struggle at some point. GC today had the same number of inexperienced players on the park, that may explain the closeness of the game, if it doesn't then it may say more about the rest of our players.

How many are actually key players? Riewoldt, Rance and one of their defenders (is it Grimes?). They've had Cotchin out, but he's back in I believe. Perhaps I've missed one or two, but compare and contrast to ours, there's no comparison.

Today's game was only close on the scoreboard (sure we could've coughed it up), but after half time it wasn't really close.

Sorry Linton, I don't think you really want me to compare, that will just be really embarrassing to your thought process and St Kilda. Let's just enjoy a win that our young blokes played a part in, baby steps kind of forward.

[JR23]

Calm down''
We won
Lets forward to next week

[kosifantutti]

We fielded 9 players with less than 50 games today, 3 or 4 of them with less than 10. That's an inexperienced team. How are Richmond going with all their injuries?

Err dude, they're 7th on the ladder.

But we are 8th on percentage. Only got 23 percentage points off Port in the eight

Why do you think our percentage is so low?

Blight said recently on the radio that percentage means a lot.

A team with a poor percentage is a poor team.

That’s a golden rule that rings true any year. Every year.

I’m not sure if you or that renowned statistician Malcolm Blight made this up, but it’s rubbish.

[BarryGrogan]

Let's see how he goes with those blokes in the team.

???

He's been there for 6 years.

He's had Nick Riewoldt in his team FFS. It doesn't matter.

[Linton Lodger]

We smashed them in inside 50s, If we'd kicked straight and avoided a few dumb mistakes, it was a 5 to 7 goal win. Richmond would love such a win at the moment.

But for 6 years, we haven't kicked straight.

For 6 years, we've made the same dumb mistakes.

If that was going to change, it would have by now.

And for 6 years the List has been young and inexperienced and still is.

Acres running forward with the ball after a good passage of play. Does Membrey lead out in front? No, he runs behind his opponent requiring a harder kick from Acres, he doesn't body his opponent to create separation and drops the mark under pressure. That's not coached.

When Dunstan tackles a player who lost the ball and didn't have it, in front of goal. That's not coached.

There were just countless examples of such dumb decision making. That's not coached.

Obviously poor kicking for goal isn't coached and whilst we're particularly poor in that regard, it's really bad across the competition, with the exception of Geelong & Collingwood.

Those guys aren't young and inexperienced.


Richo had a blatant 'kick it to Roo' game plan. It was mildly effective.
But then Roo retired.

And...well....here we are 2 years layer and Cho still hasnt overseen an ounce of improvement across the group. Despite 50 odd games of experience and development into young and highly regarded recruits - we've gone backwards fast.

Membrey is an excellent footballer, playing in a terribly coached and incredibly dysfunctional team.

He's not the only one.


We don't have a top 2 list.

However we have a lot of talent.

It's just so dysfunctional that everyone looks so haphazard.

We fielded 9 players with less than 50 games today, 3 or 4 of them with less than 10. That's an inexperienced team. How are Richmond going with all their injuries?

Lodger, it just sounds like excuses mate. Six years this crap has been going on. Do you genuinely have faith that Richardson can take this team into contention?

That remains to be seen, I certainly see no reason to sack him at the moment.

You are of course entitled to your opinion mate. So how long do you give him? Is six years of this not enough? At what point does it no longer remain to be seen and a decision needs to be made. Saying, “there’s no reason to sack him at the moment” reads to me like accepting that where we are at is acceptable. In what way is it acceptable? He’s had six years mate. What? Give him eight? How much of this mediocre garbage is enough?

For a start it looks like the inclusion of Hannebery, Carlisle and Webster is imminent. Lonie won't be far behind and Steven a few weeks away. Let's see how he goes with those blokes in the team. Let's see what sort of footy we're playing by the end of the season and what sort of momentum we may have. Then if its not up to scratch, be sure we can get someone better.

Mistakenly pressed the thank button instead of the quote button. Lodger, all those blokes were in the team last year except Hannebery, who was ranked 365th of all AFL players last year. (Acknowledge Webster only played 8 games) Nothing has changed mate. Just reads as delusional to me to think that adding those fellas, all of whom bar Hannebery were there last year, will make a massive difference.
We should have got someone better at the end of last year, we’re only marking time with Cho. Only reason he’s still there is money, it’s certainly nothing to do with performance. Just have to agree to disagree. Some people think he deserves more time, others think he’s not competent in the role and he should be replaced asap. Am firmly in the latter camp myself and have been for quite some time. Whatever needs to happen for him to be sacked, I’m in favour of it, even if it means losing games.
We are going nowhere with him as coach.

What's last year got to do with the present? If people cannot see the difference between last year and now, then I'm sorry they're blind. Just to state the obvious, this time last year we'd just won our second game and first in 10 weeks. This year we've won six and sit 1 game out of the 8.

If you say you don't think that Carlisle, Hannebery, Webster, Lonie and Steven will improve where we are now, then you're been disingenuous or not watching.

[Linton Lodger]

Let's see how he goes with those blokes in the team.

???

He's been there for 6 years.

He's had Nick Riewoldt in his team FFS. It doesn't matter.

You comparing one ageing key forward (as good as he was) to 5 very good players?