Who's screaming from the rooftops?ss1986 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 6:53pm I am just bewildered. If this was ANY other club, they’d be screaming from the rooftops.
WHY do we just continue to put up with it?
Richo’s resigning, selection policy, the Hannebery rort... it all stinks to high heaven of short term ass covering/job saving/corruption. Of course no one can definitely say it is for fear of being banned... but any good ethics policy in business means that even something “perceived” is a real issue.
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Clearly... the OP wASN’t there in the 80s when saints were getting beltings... (I wasn’t there to witness it either ):)
How dare the OP expect anything from the club’s administration
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How dare the OP expect anything from the club’s administration
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A win is a win. Yep, it wasn't great or perfect but it's a win and a step forward. Rd 1 is dangerous for any favourite as proven by the results this weekend.
Posters that have admitted they were wrong about Hanna's gastro and the club didn't create a cover story.
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I think Richo should have been sacked half way through last year, and I think his sacking is inevitable. I think the club is going nowhere with him (as the last 5 years has shown) so the quicker we move on the better.
This means I’m torn watching games, as a win is what I obviouslywant to see, but I also want to see Richo gone, which will happen a lot quicker if we lose...
The powers that be have been shown to be gutless, so if their hand needs to be forced so be it.
This means I’m torn watching games, as a win is what I obviouslywant to see, but I also want to see Richo gone, which will happen a lot quicker if we lose...
The powers that be have been shown to be gutless, so if their hand needs to be forced so be it.
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I am repeating this for those who need to find the 'positives from today-
Perspective : Kudos Saints
one alternative
or another- Letting Freo win?
I have a suggestion for some of you.
https://www.positivityblog.com/how-to-stay-positive/
Perspective : Kudos Saints
one alternative
or another- Letting Freo win?
I have a suggestion for some of you.
https://www.positivityblog.com/how-to-stay-positive/
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Totally agree - the two completely irrelevant wins against the Suns by a collective winning margin of 3 points, will ultimately cost us a few years of redeveloping under a decent coach.The_Dud wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:40pm I think Richo should have been sacked half way through last year, and I think his sacking is inevitable. I think the club is going nowhere with him (as the last 5 years has shown) so the quicker we move on the better.
This means I’m torn watching games, as a win is what I obviouslywant to see, but I also want to see Richo gone, which will happen a lot quicker if we lose...
The powers that be have been shown to be gutless, so if their hand needs to be forced so be it.
I would far rather we have lost both of those games for the long term good.... not every win is relevant. At the end of the day, in the words of Ricky Bobby’s Dad - if you aint first, youre last.
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Our club is easily the worst run = with Suns. We absolutely won’t have success until this is rectified.. that’s a fact. There is a reason the successful club on field nowadays are the most successful and professional off the field
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Fascinating view. I have never met a saints supporter that thinks like this. Probably still havent.ss1986 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:45pmTotally agree - the two completely irrelevant wins against the Suns by a collective winning margin of 3 points, will ultimately cost us a few years of redeveloping under a decent coach.The_Dud wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:40pm I think Richo should have been sacked half way through last year, and I think his sacking is inevitable. I think the club is going nowhere with him (as the last 5 years has shown) so the quicker we move on the better.
This means I’m torn watching games, as a win is what I obviouslywant to see, but I also want to see Richo gone, which will happen a lot quicker if we lose...
The powers that be have been shown to be gutless, so if their hand needs to be forced so be it.
I would far rather we have lost both of those games for the long term good.... not every win is relevant. At the end of the day, in the words of Ricky Bobby’s Dad - if you aint first, youre last.
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?mightysainters wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:57pm Our club is easily the worst run = with Suns. We absolutely won’t have success until this is rectified.. that’s a fact. There is a reason the successful club on field nowadays are the most successful and professional off the field
Are you able to explain that? Or provide some evidence of that?
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I don’t understand how people DON’T think this way.... what good is a win now to simply paper over the cracks that Stevie Wonder can see?Crossy66 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:58pmFascinating view. I have never met a saints supporter that thinks like this. Probably still havent.ss1986 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:45pmTotally agree - the two completely irrelevant wins against the Suns by a collective winning margin of 3 points, will ultimately cost us a few years of redeveloping under a decent coach.The_Dud wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:40pm I think Richo should have been sacked half way through last year, and I think his sacking is inevitable. I think the club is going nowhere with him (as the last 5 years has shown) so the quicker we move on the better.
This means I’m torn watching games, as a win is what I obviouslywant to see, but I also want to see Richo gone, which will happen a lot quicker if we lose...
The powers that be have been shown to be gutless, so if their hand needs to be forced so be it.
I would far rather we have lost both of those games for the long term good.... not every win is relevant. At the end of the day, in the words of Ricky Bobby’s Dad - if you aint first, youre last.
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Collingwood fixed their administration, won a flagrodgerfox wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 9:03pm?mightysainters wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:57pm Our club is easily the worst run = with Suns. We absolutely won’t have success until this is rectified.. that’s a fact. There is a reason the successful club on field nowadays are the most successful and professional off the field
Are you able to explain that? Or provide some evidence of that?
Sydney fixed their administration, won flags
Geelong fixed their administration, won flags
Richmond fixed their administration, won a flag
Hawthorn..... dont even need to be mentioned.
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Are you being facetious? Check the past 5 years decisions by our club and tell me this isn’t a fact... our admin is a legit rabblerodgerfox wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 9:03pm?mightysainters wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:57pm Our club is easily the worst run = with Suns. We absolutely won’t have success until this is rectified.. that’s a fact. There is a reason the successful club on field nowadays are the most successful and professional off the field
Are you able to explain that? Or provide some evidence of that?
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Did you enjoy watching Nick Riewoldt, one of the greatest, if not the greatest St.kilda player of all time and six time best and fairest winner ?Crossy66 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:58pmFascinating view. I have never met a saints supporter that thinks like this. Probably still havent.ss1986 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:45pmTotally agree - the two completely irrelevant wins against the Suns by a collective winning margin of 3 points, will ultimately cost us a few years of redeveloping under a decent coach.The_Dud wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:40pm I think Richo should have been sacked half way through last year, and I think his sacking is inevitable. I think the club is going nowhere with him (as the last 5 years has shown) so the quicker we move on the better.
This means I’m torn watching games, as a win is what I obviouslywant to see, but I also want to see Richo gone, which will happen a lot quicker if we lose...
The powers that be have been shown to be gutless, so if their hand needs to be forced so be it.
I would far rather we have lost both of those games for the long term good.... not every win is relevant. At the end of the day, in the words of Ricky Bobby’s Dad - if you aint first, youre last.
How do you think St.kilda were able to secure his services ?
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Do you really think "a win" papers over anything?ss1986 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 9:16pmI don’t understand how people DON’T think this way.... what good is a win now to simply paper over the cracks that Stevie Wonder can see?Crossy66 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:58pmFascinating view. I have never met a saints supporter that thinks like this. Probably still havent.ss1986 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:45pmTotally agree - the two completely irrelevant wins against the Suns by a collective winning margin of 3 points, will ultimately cost us a few years of redeveloping under a decent coach.The_Dud wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:40pm I think Richo should have been sacked half way through last year, and I think his sacking is inevitable. I think the club is going nowhere with him (as the last 5 years has shown) so the quicker we move on the better.
This means I’m torn watching games, as a win is what I obviouslywant to see, but I also want to see Richo gone, which will happen a lot quicker if we lose...
The powers that be have been shown to be gutless, so if their hand needs to be forced so be it.
I would far rather we have lost both of those games for the long term good.... not every win is relevant. At the end of the day, in the words of Ricky Bobby’s Dad - if you aint first, youre last.
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It was a s*** win.
If there is such a thing, this was it.
If there is such a thing, this was it.
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I remember not wanting to win back in early 2000’s when priority picks were up for grabs.Crossy66 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:58pmFascinating view. I have never met a saints supporter that thinks like this. Probably still havent.ss1986 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:45pmTotally agree - the two completely irrelevant wins against the Suns by a collective winning margin of 3 points, will ultimately cost us a few years of redeveloping under a decent coach.The_Dud wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:40pm I think Richo should have been sacked half way through last year, and I think his sacking is inevitable. I think the club is going nowhere with him (as the last 5 years has shown) so the quicker we move on the better.
This means I’m torn watching games, as a win is what I obviouslywant to see, but I also want to see Richo gone, which will happen a lot quicker if we lose...
The powers that be have been shown to be gutless, so if their hand needs to be forced so be it.
I would far rather we have lost both of those games for the long term good.... not every win is relevant. At the end of the day, in the words of Ricky Bobby’s Dad - if you aint first, youre last.
I think it was less than 5 wins at the time.
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You’re welcome to find another team if you want. We don’t need you.ss1986 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 6:32pm Nauseated by the faux ‘positivity’ of scraping past the Suns yet again.
Deadset, how far do we have to stoop before we realise we are going nowhere fast?
“Oh youre a sad sack, oh its Round 1, oh Hannebery will be the saviour” yaddah yaddah.
What an absolute crock of sh*te.
This club is run by a bunch of thieves and supported by a bunch of lovely people....too lovely, who demand nothing and ultimately get NOTHING in return.
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Your point was you want the saints to lose games so we sack the coach. What does that have to do with nick R?Aussie Jonestown wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 9:27pmDid you enjoy watching Nick Riewoldt, one of the greatest, if not the greatest St.kilda player of all time and six time best and fairest winner ?Crossy66 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:58pmFascinating view. I have never met a saints supporter that thinks like this. Probably still havent.ss1986 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:45pmTotally agree - the two completely irrelevant wins against the Suns by a collective winning margin of 3 points, will ultimately cost us a few years of redeveloping under a decent coach.The_Dud wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 8:40pm I think Richo should have been sacked half way through last year, and I think his sacking is inevitable. I think the club is going nowhere with him (as the last 5 years has shown) so the quicker we move on the better.
This means I’m torn watching games, as a win is what I obviouslywant to see, but I also want to see Richo gone, which will happen a lot quicker if we lose...
The powers that be have been shown to be gutless, so if their hand needs to be forced so be it.
I would far rather we have lost both of those games for the long term good.... not every win is relevant. At the end of the day, in the words of Ricky Bobby’s Dad - if you aint first, youre last.
How do you think St.kilda were able to secure his services ?
Different arguement, that would be tanking you're getting confused with
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Who says we had to pick Petracca either?rodgerfox wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 7:29pmTo be fair, you didn't question the club and demand accountability - you just had a whinge.ss1986 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 6:35pmClassic Saints fan’s response. How dare ANYONE actually question this club and demand accountability?twirlyhair wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 6:33pm Your welcome to find another team if you like. We don't need you.
It’s only been 53 years....
The club is in a funk, no doubt. But in an 18 team comp with a draft, a salary cap, and a revenue driven fixture - you can't click your fingers and be awesome overnight.
I'm all for the bagging the club, no issue with that at all. But highlighting errors doesn't mean s***, unless there was something specific they should have done instead.
Like picking McCartin. Disaster.
Really?
Petracca is no world beater. So although Paddy has turned out to be a complete waste of a no. 1 pick, is it really that big an error?
We recruited Hannebury on big dough. So what? Is he dead? No.
Did it cost us another player? No.
The alternative as it stands, is that we simply don't have him, and instead are overpaying some spuds currently on our list.
When put in context, it actually isn't really tantrum worthy.
This seems to be accepted logic based on what? The media? Online phantom drafts? Hindsight AFTER he was picked 2?
If we just copy the media or phantom drafts why bother with paid recruiters? Just copy the phantom draft.
Why couldnt we have selected Angus Brayshaw or JDG?
I really dont understand this 'accepted order' thing when it comes to the draft. There is no accepted order until AFTER the draft. It is pure hindsightery.
There is no reason we couldnt have gone for AB or JDG at the time. None.
And lets be honest. At least Petracca actually plays. He gets on the park. That's a good start.
DH and PM cant even get on the park.
Also we gave up our 2019 2nd round pick for DH.
Plus opportunity cost - why couldnt we get a better and younger and healthier player for that kind of money?
E.g. Brisbane got Lachie Neale. He is a gun. They got Charlie Cameron last season. A gun.
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I was listening to my brother in law talking to his wife about social media and why he does not want any part of it.
He said social media is filled with bent individuals who get their kicks going on opposition forums pretending to be a supporter but whose basic intent is to try to tear the club down.
Just saying. Not that I think that would happen here
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He said social media is filled with bent individuals who get their kicks going on opposition forums pretending to be a supporter but whose basic intent is to try to tear the club down.
Just saying. Not that I think that would happen here
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Everyone had petracca at 1. The paddy haters on ss have been holding up petracca as the missed messiah for 4 years. Truth is, he isnt top 10.GilsAuPair wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 10:00pmWho says we had to pick Petracca either?rodgerfox wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 7:29pmTo be fair, you didn't question the club and demand accountability - you just had a whinge.ss1986 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 6:35pmClassic Saints fan’s response. How dare ANYONE actually question this club and demand accountability?twirlyhair wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 6:33pm Your welcome to find another team if you like. We don't need you.
It’s only been 53 years....
The club is in a funk, no doubt. But in an 18 team comp with a draft, a salary cap, and a revenue driven fixture - you can't click your fingers and be awesome overnight.
I'm all for the bagging the club, no issue with that at all. But highlighting errors doesn't mean s***, unless there was something specific they should have done instead.
Like picking McCartin. Disaster.
Really?
Petracca is no world beater. So although Paddy has turned out to be a complete waste of a no. 1 pick, is it really that big an error?
We recruited Hannebury on big dough. So what? Is he dead? No.
Did it cost us another player? No.
The alternative as it stands, is that we simply don't have him, and instead are overpaying some spuds currently on our list.
When put in context, it actually isn't really tantrum worthy.
This seems to be accepted logic based on what? The media? Online phantom drafts? Hindsight AFTER he was picked 2?
If we just copy the media or phantom drafts why bother with paid recruiters? Just copy the phantom draft.
Why couldnt we have selected Angus Brayshaw or JDG?
I really dont understand this 'accepted order' thing when it comes to the draft. There is no accepted order until AFTER the draft. It is pure hindsightery.
There is no reason we couldnt have gone for AB or JDG at the time. None.
And lets be honest. At least Petracca actually plays. He gets on the park. That's a good start.
DH and PM cant even get on the park.
Also we gave up our 2019 2nd round pick for DH.
Plus opportunity cost - why couldnt we get a better and younger and healthier player for that kind of money?
E.g. Brisbane got Lachie Neale. He is a gun. They got Charlie Cameron last season. A gun.
No point trying to rewrite history.
As for lachie neal and cameron, thevproblem is we can only recruit players that want to actually play for us.
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Born a Saint since 1986. Experienced my fair share of ups and downs over that time - including being bullied by my cousins who are Blues supporters whilst I was just a kid in the early to mid 90s.saynta wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 10:05pm I was listening to my brother in law talking to his wife about social media and why he does not want any part of it.
He said social media is filled with bent individuals who get their kicks going on opposition forums pretending to be a supporter but whose basic intent is to try to tear the club down.
Just saying. Not that I think that would happen here.
No troll here - just completely had it with the club’s administration.... who are really just individuals who are likely not, nor ever will be, emotionally attached to St.Kilda and its past.
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LOLss1986 wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 10:20pmBorn a Saint since 1986. Experienced my fair share of ups and downs over that time - including being bullied by my cousins who are Blues supporters whilst I was just a kid in the early to mid 90s.saynta wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 10:05pm I was listening to my brother in law talking to his wife about social media and why he does not want any part of it.
He said social media is filled with bent individuals who get their kicks going on opposition forums pretending to be a supporter but whose basic intent is to try to tear the club down.
Just saying. Not that I think that would happen here.
No troll here - just completely had it with the club’s administration.... who are really just individuals who are likely not, nor ever will be, emotionally attached to St.Kilda and its past.
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The football club ended up at Seaford a few years back because too many members foolishly believed the spin doctoring of the Footy First administration and swallowed the garbage they fed hook, line and sinker.saynta wrote: ↑Sun 24 Mar 2019 10:05pm I was listening to my brother in law talking to his wife about social media and why he does not want any part of it.
He said social media is filled with bent individuals who get their kicks going on opposition forums pretending to be a supporter but whose basic intent is to try to tear the club down.
Just saying. Not that I think that would happen here.
The members who voted for Footy First are responsible and complicit for the mess the club is in now.
I am in no doubt you would have voted for Footy First.
Own it, acknowledge it.
You really owe the members who did not vote for Footy First an apology.
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