I am acquainted with the sobriquet "turd" but what dear boy, is a "coconut", apart from something that hangs off a palm tree?White Winmar wrote: Long is a coconut and a turd of the highest order. OMG, virtue signaller!
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As I have said before on this forum he was a sniper.Joe Bloggs wrote:He didnt help with your Thesis and he's overweight...this makes him a prick.? Omg..Sainter_Dad wrote:How is that a nice story - where are the puppy dogs, where are the rainbows?White Winmar wrote:I have a nice story abut his uncle. When I was doing my thesis into depression in AFL players, Rob Kerr, a collegue, asked Long to do a test for my study. Kerr was in charge of player welfare at Essendon at the time. Lomg refused, telling me he couldn't read and write. I challenged him, saying if you can't read and write, how did you get a pilot's licence? He turned and walked away without an answer. Rob told me I'd handled it well and that Longy, "Was a smartarse". Seeing as 20% of the indigenous boys in the study were illiterate, I thought it was a disgusting thing to pull a practical joke about. Says it all about the prick. I have no respect for him and neither do many in the indigenous community. He has been branded with the deadly sobriquet of "coconut". Good to see he's looked after himself, Saynta. A big ,fat barrel on legs. What a role model for his community. Couldn't walk to Canberra as he planned as well. Fat, lazy prick.
Good footballer, ordinary bloke as WW has pointed out.
Hope his nephew is nothing like him.
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Black on the outside, white on the inside. Stan Grant has been similarly labelled.st.byron wrote:I am acquainted with the sobriquet "turd" but what dear boy, is a "coconut", apart from something that hangs off a palm tree?White Winmar wrote: Long is a coconut and a turd of the highest order. OMG, virtue signaller!
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Aha...I wonder do the indigenous people also have a term for 'white on the outside, black on the inside'.....''White Winmar wrote:Black on the outside, white on the inside. Stan Grant has been similarly labelled.st.byron wrote:I am acquainted with the sobriquet "turd" but what dear boy, is a "coconut", apart from something that hangs off a palm tree?White Winmar wrote: Long is a coconut and a turd of the highest order. OMG, virtue signaller!
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Lets not cloud this thread with stupid comments..
Back on topic I love how many players are pushing for spots!! Longy is one of them
Back on topic I love how many players are pushing for spots!! Longy is one of them
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Michael was a gun and tough as nails.
I have no idea what his personality is like but some on here seem to have an intimate knowledge of it?
I am sure Ben doesn't want to be compared to his uncle.
But Gee Wizz I am happy we have Ben in our side.
I have no idea what his personality is like but some on here seem to have an intimate knowledge of it?
I am sure Ben doesn't want to be compared to his uncle.
But Gee Wizz I am happy we have Ben in our side.
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He is fighting for that small forward(s) role against those blokes and may already be in front of Lonie and probably Sinclair both of whom do not look up to AFL standard at this stage.Bluthy wrote:Impressive. He was like a shark out there smelling blood. Players like that don't just create pressure they create PERCEIVED pressure and get into the heads of defenders thinking they could come at any time and embarrass them.Goose is king wrote:As I stated in the match thread he had 7 tackles including 2 holding the balls in his half of footy
His advantages over Wright/Lonie/Sincs is that he could be really versatile and rotate off the fwd line. Having trouble getting it out of the backline - throw him on halfback to run it out. He could even be hard enough to go onball for bits - might need to build up a bit yet. I could see him as a winger too. Richo seems to love versatility.
If he is missing the first 2 game for a previous suspension whoever of those blokes that are playing will need to show something.
He would still be eligible for the rising star award based on the charge being laid last season.
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When I was living in Hong Kong, the Chinese used to call their similar compatriots a banana. True. Laughed then still laugh now.st.byron wrote:Aha...I wonder do the indigenous people also have a term for 'white on the outside, black on the inside'.....''White Winmar wrote:Black on the outside, white on the inside. Stan Grant has been similarly labelled.st.byron wrote:I am acquainted with the sobriquet "turd" but what dear boy, is a "coconut", apart from something that hangs off a palm tree?White Winmar wrote: Long is a coconut and a turd of the highest order. OMG, virtue signaller!
Nothing better than a good Dad Joke.
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The Fireman wrote:I didn't see him do much ???
Well he only played 42% of the game.
But with 7 tackles, 7 disposals and 1 goal that is a pretty good effort for someone playing in the small forward role.
He and all the small forwards kicked a goal each apart from Wright who snagged 3.
Lonie played 71% for 4 tackles and comparable on other stats.
Wright played 47% wirg tww goals but less tackles.
Minch played 40% and won more ball, but only laid 1 tackle. Sinclair had 69% with comparable stats to Minch, but with 3 tackles.
So stats wise Long was our second best small forward on the day.
With that tackling pressure and speed he fills the bill for the modern small forward. He will get the pressure on Wright for that slot in the team and will make it harder for Lonie to get back in.
CAVEAT: This was only against a very weak Blues team. But he looked good!
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I watched it again specifically to see what the hype was about....just didn't think he did much. I missed the 7 disposals, not saying he didn't have them.Spinner wrote:The Fireman wrote:I didn't see him do much ???
Watch the replay then.
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White on the inside and black on the inside would be "daifuku" (a Japanese dessert consisting of black bean/coconut cream encased in white rice flour).st.byron wrote:Aha...I wonder do the indigenous people also have a term for 'white on the outside, black on the inside'.....''White Winmar wrote:Black on the outside, white on the inside. Stan Grant has been similarly labelled.st.byron wrote:I am acquainted with the sobriquet "turd" but what dear boy, is a "coconut", apart from something that hangs off a palm tree?White Winmar wrote: Long is a coconut and a turd of the highest order. OMG, virtue signaller!
However, unlike the term "coconut", this is not a derogatory term.
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I hope that Ben can also not read -
He would obviously take offence at the comments here and wonder what sort of supporters he has just itching to knife him too
no wonder the talent wants to stay in NT
He would obviously take offence at the comments here and wonder what sort of supporters he has just itching to knife him too
no wonder the talent wants to stay in NT
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Just to add to the WW description, Long played for West Torrens in the SANFL where my father always maintained that he was the dirtiest footballer to ever pull on a boot - ahead even of those Port Adelaide have had over generations.
Sunk the slipper and snide kidney attacks at every opportunity.
And was the same at Essendon.
Hid behind his skin.
So the WW description is consistent.
Hopefully this kid can play - and he does not have the traits of his relation.
Sunk the slipper and snide kidney attacks at every opportunity.
And was the same at Essendon.
Hid behind his skin.
So the WW description is consistent.
Hopefully this kid can play - and he does not have the traits of his relation.
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sunsaint wrote:I hope that Ben can also not read -
He would obviously take offence at the comments here and wonder what sort of supporters he has just itching to knife him too
no wonder the talent wants to stay in NT
Ben is an intelligent young man.
He would already know pretty much all there was to know about his uncle.
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FWIW, I reckon Michael Long was the probably the most overrated player to ever pull on a jumper.Con Gorozidis wrote:Michael was a gun and tough as nails.
I have no idea what his personality is like but some on here seem to have an intimate knowledge of it?
I am sure Ben doesn't want to be compared to his uncle.
But Gee Wizz I am happy we have Ben in our side.
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Oh please! No problem with you taking offence, but spare some of your self righteous opprobrium for a man who jokes about and mocks a shocking problem afflicting his people, especially when he is meant a be a spokesman and a role model. Remember his famous walk to Canberra? Several people involved reckon he behaved like a spoilt brat before pulling out less than half way. I know a couple of guys who played with him and one who was an assistant coach. The public persona is nothing like the real thing, apparently. The guy who coached him says he was a smart arse and selfish player, who allegedly hates whites. Not that I blame him too much for that last bit. Dare I say it, a racist himself? Of course it's not racism when a black fella derides white folks who have given him so many opportunities in life, or when he's condescendingly mocking his own. And we are not criticising aboriginal people, just one individual, who on the available evidence, is an arsehole.sunsaint wrote:I hope that Ben can also not read -
He would obviously take offence at the comments here and wonder what sort of supporters he has just itching to knife him too
no wonder the talent wants to stay in NT
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I will stand by what I wrote
I wonder what Ben would think
and no one here would have a clue as to their relationship - least of all S@ynta
you can have opinions - it would be my opinion that steven baker far exceeded the dirty stakes over M Long
I wonder what Ben would think
and no one here would have a clue as to their relationship - least of all S@ynta
you can have opinions - it would be my opinion that steven baker far exceeded the dirty stakes over M Long
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Up there with your views on the pelican.White Winmar wrote:Oh please! No problem with you taking offence, but spare some of your self righteous opprobrium for a man who jokes about and mocks a shocking problem afflicting his people, especially when he is meant a be a spokesman and a role model. Remember his famous walk to Canberra? Several people involved reckon he behaved like a spoilt brat before pulling out less than half way. I know a couple of guys who played with him and one who was an assistant coach. The public persona is nothing like the real thing, apparently. The guy who coached him says he was a smart arse and selfish player, who allegedly hates whites. Not that I blame him too much for that last bit. Dare I say it, a racist himself? Of course it's not racism when a black fella derides white folks who have given him so many opportunities in life, or when he's condescendingly mocking his own. And we are not criticising aboriginal people, just one individual, who on the available evidence, is an arsehole.sunsaint wrote:I hope that Ben can also not read -
He would obviously take offence at the comments here and wonder what sort of supporters he has just itching to knife him too
no wonder the talent wants to stay in NT
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Some of the more verbose posters on here are also the most literate.Joe Bloggs wrote:Opprobrium is a great word .
I seriously find myself intimidated into silence at the quality of their writing, even though I quite often disagree with the sentiments expressed!
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Peter Roget - helping people look smarter since 1805whiskers3614 wrote:Some of the more verbose posters on here are also the most literate.Joe Bloggs wrote:Opprobrium is a great word .
I seriously find myself intimidated into silence at the quality of their writing, even though I quite often disagree with the sentiments expressed!
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That's very cynical Devilhead. I remember one of my old colleagues said something similar, and while I'm not saying you are, he was an arrogant philistine.Devilhead wrote:Peter Roget - helping people look smarter since 1805whiskers3614 wrote:Some of the more verbose posters on here are also the most literate.Joe Bloggs wrote:Opprobrium is a great word .
I seriously find myself intimidated into silence at the quality of their writing, even though I quite often disagree with the sentiments expressed!
I read a clever quote by Les Murray last week in "Killing the Black Dog" which said that opprobrium was the evil twin of praise (pg 69).
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Hope he really grows into his career... He seems to be one of those players that makes things happen. Looked very lively when he came on in the second half against the Blues.