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Personally, I think BJ is superior, although Chapman's CV with the premierships puts BJ in the shade, which is always a major sticking point.
Put Goddard in Geelong's teams and with Thomson as his coach and he would have won significantly more flags than Chapman.
Absolute champion in the games that mattered, just a pity some others couldn't match their home and away outputs in GF's!
yipper wrote:BJ gave his all for the Saints - played with broken nose and collarbone in 09 Grand Final - and he and Lenny almost willed the saints over the line in 2010. He couldn't have given any more. That mark he took - seconds earlier he was up the other end of the ground. He was trying desperately to get us up. It was inspirational. Don't care what a flog like Chapman thinks of him. I know he is universally loved and respected by his SAINTS teammates especially Roo. That is enough for me.
That's right, two mighty performances by BJ in those Grand Finals.
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"It was more about when he ran out onto the ground - he sort of didn't deliver on what his expectations were for everybody" - on Goddard
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"The headlines that are written in the paper - they're not my words, but the extracts are. You get one chance of writing a book"
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"You don't have to be everybody's best mate at a club to get the job done
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"It wouldn't be the first time BJ has heard it - as a leadership group it was spoken about quite a bit"
skeptic wrote:I always thought Chapman was more damaging
He was also more loyal to his club then BJ was to his, and douche or not he was part of one of the most dominant teams of the modern era.
Personally i think if Chapman shares an opinion, he has the runs on the board that suggests those around him should listen
I thought our top echelon - Roo, Goddard, Ball - seemed a bit up themselves maybe because they were such high picks. Maybe they lacked the common touch and grounding that would have let their own behaviors be challenged to make the team better. Roo's habit of acting disgusted when a pass goes over his head irks me a bit. Has anyone challenged him on that? Would anyone dare? That what leadership in a club is really about - the courage to keep it real. Everyone should be prepared to drop their ego and take it on the chin to make the team function better.