citywest wrote:What everyone is forgetting is that you need to setup the base with elite 18 year olds first. Then you go down the path of trading and FA's. Hawthorn were crap for years and lapped up all the early draft picks. .
Hawthorn were not crap for years. They dipped down, did not even finish last, unless you go back prior to the sixties.
Finishing Position Year Tally
Premiers 1961, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2008, 2013, 2014 12
Grand Finalist 1963, 1975, 1984, 1985, 1987, 2012 6
3 1957, 1974, 1977, 1982, 2011 5
4 2001 1
5 1943, 1960, 1964, 1969, 1990 5
6 1958, 1968, 1972, 1981, 1992, 1993, 2000, 2007 8
7 1956, 1959, 1973, 1979, 1994, 2010 6
8 1937, 1955, 1970, 1980, 1996 5
9 1936, 1940, 1954, 1962, 1966, 1999,
2003, 2009 8
10 1929, 1930, 1935, 1939, 1945, 1967,
2002 7
11 1926, 1931, 1933, 1934, 1938, 1942, 1944, 1947, 1948, 1951, 1952,
2006 12
12 1925, 1927, 1928, 1932, 1941, 1946, 1949, 1950, 1953, 1965 10
13 1998 1
14
2005 1
15 1995, 1997,
2004 3
16 - 0
17 - 0
18 - 0
You are exposuing that we follow a path that the Hawks never did.
The Saints last four ladder finishes have been 9th, 16th , 18th, 14th has already outdone the Hawks skump in the early naughties!
If we are meant to be following their ladder position history we need to be finishing higher each year from now on.....and not trying to finsih low to get earlier picks
Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....