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doesn't matter to me how anyone tries to justify the clubs shitty actions in selling off our stars for peanuts....you can say what you like...pelican has poo fior brains afaic...no wonder the hawks gave him the flick...him and his spreadsheets...ffs....games of football are won with players who possess a god given talent....something you can't flowering show on the spreadsheet...
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stinger wrote:doesn't matter to me how anyone tries to justify the clubs shitty actions in selling off our stars for peanuts....you can say what you like...pelican has poo fior brains afaic...no wonder the hawks gave him the flick...him and his spreadsheets...ffs....games of football are won with players who possess a god given talent....something you can't flowering shoe on the spreadshee...
stinger wrote:doesn't matter to me how anyone tries to justify the clubs shitty actions in selling off our stars for peanuts....you can say what you like...pelican has poo fior brains afaic...no wonder the hawks gave him the flick...him and his spreadsheets...ffs....games of football are won with players who possess a god given talent....something you can't flowering shoe on the spreadshee...
So what would you do with the list?
well for starters , i wouldn't rip the heart and soul out of the club and trade /give away our stars for chook poo....and a used condom....
...longer, lee, saad and milera...spare me..
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stinger wrote:doesn't matter to me how anyone tries to justify the clubs shitty actions in selling off our stars for peanuts....you can say what you like...pelican has poo fior brains afaic...no wonder the hawks gave him the flick...him and his spreadsheets...ffs....games of football are won with players who possess a god given talent....something you can't flowering shoe on the spreadshee...
So what would you do with the list?
well for starters , i wouldn't rip the heart and soul out of the club and trade /give away our starts for chook poo....and a used condom....
...longer, lee, saad and malera...spare me..
ok so we have established what you wouldnt do.
But what would you actually do?
stinger wrote:well for starters , i wouldn't rip the heart and soul out of the club and trade /give away our starts for chook poo....and a used condom....
...longer, lee, saad and malera...spare me..
ok so we have established what you wouldnt do.
But what would you actually do?
Stinger's a lawyer. He doesn't do solutions but he's bloody good at finding problems in things other people do.
stinger wrote:doesn't matter to me how anyone tries to justify the clubs shitty actions in selling off our stars for peanuts....you can say what you like...
When we lost Barry Hall pick 13 turned into Dal, hopefully the pick that keeps giving eg Longer will develop into a huge reliable Ruck who will attract another high draft pick or become our main man so we can trade out Hickey for a high pick. Otherwise Pierce and Holmes become guns and one of them become trade bait. Either way the two new franchises might need rucks once their mids develop and want to swap their fourth best mid for one. I would say there is some kind of logical unemotional strategy behind it. There is currently four potential high level rucks on our list. In the past we have struggled to get one.
stinger wrote:longer will be gone before dal quits the roos...
That's an incorrect assumption.
Take the emotion out of it: it was a deal that netted us a quality young defender, a budding ruckman of real potential, and probably $1 million of salary cap space (spread over a few years) for a player who won't be in our next premiership.
Dal Santo is a St Kilda champion. Always will be. I hope he ends his career with a premiership or Brownlow.
stinger wrote:well for starters , i wouldn't rip the heart and soul out of the club and trade /give away our starts for chook poo....and a used condom....
...longer, lee, saad and malera...spare me..
ok so we have established what you wouldnt do.
But what would you actually do?
Stinger's a lawyer. He doesn't do solutions but he's bloody good at finding problems in things other people do.
oh..you have wounded me to the core.....
i am actually paid to find solutions to other peoples problems......well to solve them anyway....might not be to their satisfaction, but ...
...yesterday was fathers day........i had people coming ant going all day...so i didn't have to to waste on replying to silly posts...
...no other team in the afl who finds./found themselves on the bottom of the ladder has thought it necessary to give a leg up to the rivals like we have.......the hawks did trade a bit when the pelican was with them....might still come back to bite them on the arse this finals series......
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gringo wrote:When we lost Barry Hall pick 13 turned into Dal, hopefully the pick that keeps giving eg Longer will develop into a huge reliable Ruck who will attract another high draft pick or become our main man so we can trade out Hickey for a high pick. Otherwise Pierce and Holmes become guns and one of them become trade bait. Either way the two new franchises might need rucks once their mids develop and want to swap their fourth best mid for one. I would say there is some kind of logical unemotional strategy behind it. There is currently four potential high level rucks on our list. In the past we have struggled to get one.
sure we got dal for hall...but hall could have won us a premiership ...dal didn't...we got sfa for plugger and he probably would have made the difference in 97...also.......probably would have won more than just the one premiership with our late sixties team if we had hung onto stewart and ditterich too.....trading has never been our strong point.....
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stinger wrote:longer will be gone before dal quits the roos...
That's an incorrect assumption.
Take the emotion out of it: it was a deal that netted us a quality young defender, a budding ruckman of real potential, and probably $1 million of salary cap space (spread over a few years) for a player who won't be in our next premiership.
Dal Santo is a St Kilda champion. Always will be. I hope he ends his career with a premiership or Brownlow.
i have........we would have got delany anyway....whether he is quality or not is yet to be seen......did you miss the roos second half?????...i put that down to dal.......whatever we were payig him..would have been cheap when you look at his experience and guidance for younger players........as i said nothing said on here justifies in my eyes getting rid of champion players.....i'm shirty on the club and pelican for doing so and that aint about to change....
all the pelican has won for us so far is another wooden spoon....unforgivable .....
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Well stinger, please don't ever celebrate a good game by Ross, Lee, Hickey, Wright, White, Saunders, Murdoch, Billings, Dunstan, Acres, Bruce, Longer, Savage, Longer or Delaney…
These are guys that "bird-brain" has been able to engineer to the club one way or another.
You can't look past today can you? If you gaze a little further than your navel for a sec… you'll see that we are building a side for a tilt in a few years, and yes there will be mistakes along the way, but so far we have made some incredible moves to re-stock the list.
and when we do finally get to our next GF with most of these blokes playing i guess youll be sitting at home staring at a pic of players that have been traded?
come on sting
yeah its sad blokes have to go
but crikey if we kept who has already left then it would be longer in years until we are ready to have another crack at finals footy!
dragit wrote:Well stinger, please don't ever celebrate a good game by Ross, Lee, Hickey, Wright, White, Saunders, Murdoch, Billings, Dunstan, Acres, Bruce, Longer, Savage, Longer or Delaney…
These are guys that "bird-brain" has been able to engineer to the club one way or another.
You can't look past today can you? If you gaze a little further than your navel for a sec… you'll see that we are building a side for a tilt in a few years, and yes there will be mistakes along the way, but so far we have made some incredible moves to re-stock the list.
doubt very much that the pelican picked all those players on his own.....anyway stick to the topic and forget the little digs ffs....for once anyway,,,,
ps...didn't know we had too longers ..thanks for pointing that out....
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matrix wrote:and when we do finally get to our next GF with most of these blokes playing i guess youll be sitting at home staring at a pic of players that have been traded?
come on sting
yeah its sad blokes have to go
but crikey if we kept who has already left then it would be longer in years until we are ready to have another crack at finals footy!
i have no problems with the club cutting players.......we certainly have enough duds on our list ...just a problem with the club swapping or letting champions go for
not much benefit........but hey...you want to piss in the club's pocket...don't let me stop you.....
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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dragit wrote:Well stinger, please don't ever celebrate a good game by Ross, Lee, Hickey, Wright, White, Saunders, Murdoch, Billings, Dunstan, Acres, Bruce, Longer, Savage, Longer or Delaney…
These are guys that "bird-brain" has been able to engineer to the club one way or another.
You can't look past today can you? If you gaze a little further than your navel for a sec… you'll see that we are building a side for a tilt in a few years, and yes there will be mistakes along the way, but so far we have made some incredible moves to re-stock the list.
doubt very much that the pelican picked all those players on his own.....anyway stick to the topic and forget the little digs ffs....for once anyway,,,,
ps...didn't know we had too longers ..thanks for pointing that out....
I didn't actually make any digs, just suggesting that you are caught up in today rather than looking down the line… Short term pain mate - harden up a little.
Just think of what we'll be like with 2 or 3 longers running around
I think you are being a bit unfair on matrix there stinger.
You ask dragit to stick to the topic and then you have a dig at matrix for "pissing in the clubs pocket".
I think your thread is worthwhile and you have a right to your opinion which I can see the validity in, however matrix has an alternate opinion that is also valid.
Don't know if matrix is pissing in the clubs pocket, any more than you are navel gazing.
back on topic.
Dal Santo looked like a seasoned finals player on Saturday night and EXACTLY the reason North went for him.
We will see if Billy Longer ends up being valuable for us. He is promising.
Luke Delaney certainly lived up to his promise with his finish in the B&F
Bunk_Moreland wrote:I think you are being a bit unfair on matrix there stinger.
You ask dragit to stick to the topic and then you have a dig at matrix for "pissing in the clubs pocket".
I think your thread is worthwhile and you have a right to your opinion which I can see the validity in, however matrix has an alternate opinion that is also valid.
Don't know if matrix is pissing in the clubs pocket, any more than you are navel gazing.
back on topic.
Dal Santo looked like a seasoned finals player on Saturday night and EXACTLY the reason North went for him.
We will see if Billy Longer ends up being valuable for us. He is promising.
Luke Delaney certainly lived up to his promise with his finish in the B&F
fair comment..
...i hate winning wooden spoons......and saw first hand dal turn roos losers into roos winners...and wished it was us he was turning around.....can't put a money value on that...
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