Riewoldt Showing His Obvious Frustration
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Re: Riewoldt Showing His Obvious Frustration
I have no doubt that certain players get jittery when making the decision whether to kick it to Roo or not.
I'd swear several feel pressured to give it to him every time.
Riewoldt s***s me.
I'd swear several feel pressured to give it to him every time.
Riewoldt s***s me.
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Completely disagree, yes he looked frustrated but go back and look at the replay. He chased his ar#e off. If he didn't go once or twice perhaps thats because of how many leads he'd made leading up to that point.Old Mate wrote:I recall two occasions where Roo had the ball kicked over his head and then stood at a standstill and didn't turnaround and man the mark or chase his opponent. Clearly frustrated but this was not a good look for his younger team mates and simply not a good look for the St Kilda FC and its fans. I understand he's frustrated as the ball is not delivered to him as it should be but in my opinion he needs this not to become a trend.
I've never seen a bad St.Kilda player - that's just how they are.
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I find the concept of an incredibly highly paid captain of a football club getting 'frustrated' by having to play and help rebuild a s*** team after playing finals for a decade - really weird.
He knows we suck. He knew we sucked when he re-signed. He's publicly stated that his role is to help the young blokes build for the future.
So why would he be getting frustrated and cracking the sads when he isn't getting the pill lace out every time?
If we get belted by 50 points instead of 80 and he kicks 5 each week because he's getting good delivery, would that ease his frustration? And if so, why?
It's not about him anymore.
Him berating blokes for not kicking to him is appalling. I fail to see how that helps us rebuild.
I'd prefer him berating Montagna for piss weak physical efforts, or Gwilt for dogging it, or Dempster for pathetic skill errors rather than him huffing and puffing and yelling at kids for not kicking it to him perfectly every time.
He knows we suck. He knew we sucked when he re-signed. He's publicly stated that his role is to help the young blokes build for the future.
So why would he be getting frustrated and cracking the sads when he isn't getting the pill lace out every time?
If we get belted by 50 points instead of 80 and he kicks 5 each week because he's getting good delivery, would that ease his frustration? And if so, why?
It's not about him anymore.
Him berating blokes for not kicking to him is appalling. I fail to see how that helps us rebuild.
I'd prefer him berating Montagna for piss weak physical efforts, or Gwilt for dogging it, or Dempster for pathetic skill errors rather than him huffing and puffing and yelling at kids for not kicking it to him perfectly every time.
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Johnny Member wrote:I find the concept of an incredibly highly paid captain of a football club getting 'frustrated' by having to play and help rebuild a s*** team after playing finals for a decade - really weird.
He knows we suck. He knew we sucked when he re-signed. He's publicly stated that his role is to help the young blokes build for the future.
So why would he be getting frustrated and cracking the sads when he isn't getting the pill lace out every time?
If we get belted by 50 points instead of 80 and he kicks 5 each week because he's getting good delivery, would that ease his frustration? And if so, why?
It's not about him anymore.
Him berating blokes for not kicking to him is appalling. I fail to see how that helps us rebuild.
I'd prefer him berating Montagna for piss weak physical efforts, or Gwilt for dogging it, or Dempster for pathetic skill errors rather than him huffing and puffing and yelling at kids for not kicking it to him perfectly every time.
Lot od guess work there but to be expected when you say he s***s you. Maybe he is just get frustrated because he knows they have the skills and he is pissed off when they dont use them or maybe he just really wants to win. Dont worry I reckon Lenny gives guys sprays as well but he is usually much closer to the player so it isnt as obvious. See I can guess as well.
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"Kicking it to him perfectly" man you have to be kidding.Johnny Member wrote:I find the concept of an incredibly highly paid captain of a football club getting 'frustrated' by having to play and help rebuild a s*** team after playing finals for a decade - really weird.
He knows we suck. He knew we sucked when he re-signed. He's publicly stated that his role is to help the young blokes build for the future.
So why would he be getting frustrated and cracking the sads when he isn't getting the pill lace out every time?
If we get belted by 50 points instead of 80 and he kicks 5 each week because he's getting good delivery, would that ease his frustration? And if so, why?
It's not about him anymore.
Him berating blokes for not kicking to him is appalling. I fail to see how that helps us rebuild.
I'd prefer him berating Montagna for piss weak physical efforts, or Gwilt for dogging it, or Dempster for pathetic skill errors rather than him huffing and puffing and yelling at kids for not kicking it to him perfectly every time.
He did about 6 repeat leads and got 10 metre clear of his opponent only to have Jimmy G kick it straight over his head onto his exhausted opponents chest. If you'd be happy after that then hey go for it.
Can you also recount how many times he definitively sprayed the youngsters last week or is this guess work?
I've never seen a bad St.Kilda player - that's just how they are.
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Re: Riewoldt Showing His Obvious Frustration
I don't even know why Gwilt kicked it to him. And I don't even know why Riewoldt led for it!
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Johnny Member wrote:I don't even know why Gwilt kicked it to him. And I don't even know why Riewoldt led for it!
To make space behind him. You do that dont you? if he doesnt lead then there are 3 or 4 players in the goal square. Its up to Jimmy to use his brain as Rooy had already used his.
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Re: Riewoldt Showing His Obvious Frustration
As I said above, from the outer, 'using your brain' and deciding not to kick it to Riewoldt often ends in a spray from the captain!
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Johnny Member wrote:As I said above, from the outer, 'using your brain' and deciding not to kick it to Riewoldt often ends in a spray from the captain!
I must miss that. All I saw was Rooy completely frustrated and didnt say a word. Can you tell me all of them on Sunday and I will watch the tape because you seem to have a bias against Rooy for some reason.
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Re: Riewoldt Showing His Obvious Frustration
He didn't that's the point.Johnny Member wrote:I don't even know why Gwilt kicked it to him. And I don't even know why Riewoldt led for it!
I've never seen a bad St.Kilda player - that's just how they are.
Re: Riewoldt Showing His Obvious Frustration
I agree with thisJohnny Member wrote:They get the jitters!
I think they cop it from all angles.
Media, coaching staff, fans, general footy public...
They are told they are wrecking him, unworthy of him.
Self fulfilling.
It's not just Roo spraying them, it's the aura that's become quite consuming.
We needed a new captain, so that its not arguably our greatest of all times and captain demanding the footy.
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SainterK wrote:I agree with thisJohnny Member wrote:They get the jitters!
I think they cop it from all angles.
Media, coaching staff, fans, general footy public...
They are told they are wrecking him, unworthy of him.
Self fulfilling.
It's not just Roo spraying them, it's the aura that's become quite consuming.
We needed a new captain, so that its not arguably our greatest of all times and captain demanding the footy.
Because if he isnt captain he will stop doing that. Actually he wont. You have some interesting ideas SK. Pretty sure you will disappointed again next year because Rooy will be captain IMO. And the players must get the jitters all around the ground.
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" He did about 6 repeat leads and got 10 metre clear " man you have to be kidding.PJ wrote:"Kicking it to him perfectly" man you have to be kidding.Johnny Member wrote:I find the concept of an incredibly highly paid captain of a football club getting 'frustrated' by having to play and help rebuild a s*** team after playing finals for a decade - really weird.
He knows we suck. He knew we sucked when he re-signed. He's publicly stated that his role is to help the young blokes build for the future.
So why would he be getting frustrated and cracking the sads when he isn't getting the pill lace out every time?
If we get belted by 50 points instead of 80 and he kicks 5 each week because he's getting good delivery, would that ease his frustration? And if so, why?
It's not about him anymore.
Him berating blokes for not kicking to him is appalling. I fail to see how that helps us rebuild.
I'd prefer him berating Montagna for piss weak physical efforts, or Gwilt for dogging it, or Dempster for pathetic skill errors rather than him huffing and puffing and yelling at kids for not kicking it to him perfectly every time.
He did about 6 repeat leads and got 10 metre clear of his opponent only to have Jimmy G kick it straight over his head onto his exhausted opponents chest. If you'd be happy after that then hey go for it.
Can you also recount how many times he definitively sprayed the youngsters last week or is this guess work?
A bit of mustard added to this statement as well
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Re: Riewoldt Showing His Obvious Frustration
Ok there is an elephant in the room that SK "might" be alluding to & if not Im going to
On the weekend against carlton delivery to Roo was laughable & after a while I began to think it was deliberate
As SK said why is that delivery into the 50 is the problem, they can progress the ball out of the backline & through the middle reasonably well, but as soon as it gets to the next pass to the blonde haired one it all goes astray.
In a very recent thread many respondents here claimed the reason SWatters was sacked was because he lost the players -
why cant the same be said of a captain?
On the weekend against carlton delivery to Roo was laughable & after a while I began to think it was deliberate
As SK said why is that delivery into the 50 is the problem, they can progress the ball out of the backline & through the middle reasonably well, but as soon as it gets to the next pass to the blonde haired one it all goes astray.
In a very recent thread many respondents here claimed the reason SWatters was sacked was because he lost the players -
why cant the same be said of a captain?
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I don't think he's lost them, I think they love him, but purely because of who he is...his standing in the game, his aura, it's beyond suffocating.
When one guy is built up to be the identity of your footy club, it's time to make a change.
I reiterate, it's not his fault.
The berating is just a footnote of a bigger issue.
I like the idea of co-captains, it's really grown on me.
Roo will still be our best player, and one of the greatest CHF of the modern era, and will go down as one of our greatest of all times.
Cheers.
When one guy is built up to be the identity of your footy club, it's time to make a change.
I reiterate, it's not his fault.
The berating is just a footnote of a bigger issue.
I like the idea of co-captains, it's really grown on me.
Roo will still be our best player, and one of the greatest CHF of the modern era, and will go down as one of our greatest of all times.
Cheers.
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So you think Roo didn't make 6 repeat leads or don't you think he was 10 metres clear? If you're going to discredit what I've said then tell us what happened or are you just attempting to be humorous.jamesmc wrote:" He did about 6 repeat leads and got 10 metre clear " man you have to be kidding.PJ wrote:"Kicking it to him perfectly" man you have to be kidding.Johnny Member wrote:I find the concept of an incredibly highly paid captain of a football club getting 'frustrated' by having to play and help rebuild a s*** team after playing finals for a decade - really weird.
He knows we suck. He knew we sucked when he re-signed. He's publicly stated that his role is to help the young blokes build for the future.
So why would he be getting frustrated and cracking the sads when he isn't getting the pill lace out every time?
If we get belted by 50 points instead of 80 and he kicks 5 each week because he's getting good delivery, would that ease his frustration? And if so, why?
It's not about him anymore.
Him berating blokes for not kicking to him is appalling. I fail to see how that helps us rebuild.
I'd prefer him berating Montagna for piss weak physical efforts, or Gwilt for dogging it, or Dempster for pathetic skill errors rather than him huffing and puffing and yelling at kids for not kicking it to him perfectly every time.
He did about 6 repeat leads and got 10 metre clear of his opponent only to have Jimmy G kick it straight over his head onto his exhausted opponents chest. If you'd be happy after that then hey go for it.
Can you also recount how many times he definitively sprayed the youngsters last week or is this guess work?
A bit of mustard added to this statement as well
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Roo is one of the best Saints to ever play the game but hes a s*** bloke and its a team game so that matters.
fact.
Although I dont expect many of the fanbois on here to take this well.
fact.
Although I dont expect many of the fanbois on here to take this well.
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What is absolutely staggering about this thread is that people are blaming Riewoldt for some players poor disposal and our lack of forwards with anything like afl skill level. Seriously??
Because he is demanding our poor little, fearful players are wetting their pants at having to pass to him - what a crock. If they are then they need to HTFU and start taking responsibility for your sh#t disposal.
Because he is demanding our poor little, fearful players are wetting their pants at having to pass to him - what a crock. If they are then they need to HTFU and start taking responsibility for your sh#t disposal.
I've never seen a bad St.Kilda player - that's just how they are.
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Seems a lovely guy.Con Gorozidis wrote:Roo is one of the best Saints to ever play the game but hes a s*** bloke and its a team game so that matters.
fact.
Although I dont expect many of the fanbois on here to take this well.
Don't buy that at all.
It's everyone else that's built him up that are at fault.
I will (continue to) argue it's the club is long overdue for new leadership, but I won't agree that his reign wasn't immense.
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You know him personally?Con Gorozidis wrote:Roo is one of the best Saints to ever play the game but hes a s*** bloke and its a team game so that matters.
fact.
Why is he a "s*** bloke"? He seems to be very professional at what he does. Seems to be highly respected by his colleagues and opposition players alike.
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Agree SK I don't get all the Riewoldt negativity. There are clearly frustrated supporters that are venting at him.SainterK wrote:Seems a lovely guy.Con Gorozidis wrote:Roo is one of the best Saints to ever play the game but hes a s*** bloke and its a team game so that matters.
fact.
Although I dont expect many of the fanbois on here to take this well.
Don't buy that at all.
It's everyone else that's built him up that are at fault.
I will (continue to) argue it's the club is long overdue for new leadership, but I won't agree that his reign wasn't immense.
I've never seen a bad St.Kilda player - that's just how they are.
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I've never rated him as highly as everyone else, both in terms of ability and influence in the club.
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Con Gorozidis wrote:Roo is one of the best Saints to ever play the game but hes a s*** bloke and its a team game so that matters.
fact.
Although I dont expect many of the fanbois on here to take this well.
Your facts are hilarious. Everyone who seems to know him thinks the exact opposite of that. Sometimes you really make yourself sound like a fool. This is one.