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I prefer to look at the trade this way.
Hawks lost Buddy and Savage and gained McEvoy and Hartung.
Saints lost McEvoy and gained Savage, Dunstan and Acres.
Any way you look at that its a win for us.
I'm glad Sav is showing us what he is capable of, for those who wrote him off after two months of footy, humble pie hey. Well done Sav and keep it going!
Hawks lost Buddy and Savage and gained McEvoy and Hartung.
Saints lost McEvoy and gained Savage, Dunstan and Acres.
Any way you look at that its a win for us.
I'm glad Sav is showing us what he is capable of, for those who wrote him off after two months of footy, humble pie hey. Well done Sav and keep it going!
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Even if Savage was a dud we won that deal.bobmurray wrote:Maybe he is more than just the steak knives part of the Big Mac deal.
I think we won that deal.
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Besides steak knives can be very useful.
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We lost McEvoy & 24 (Dal Santo compo) & 59 for those players… still a win.St Ick wrote:I prefer to look at the trade this way.
Hawks lost Buddy and Savage and gained McEvoy and Hartung.
Saints lost McEvoy and gained Savage, Dunstan and Acres.
Any way you look at that its a win for us.
I'm glad Sav is showing us what he is capable of, for those who wrote him off after two months of footy, humble pie hey. Well done Sav and keep it going!
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We definitely won this trade. Took a chance on a young bloke who couldn't get a regular run in a premiership side, and picked up 2 promising youngsters.
Savage has found his role in the team, and I hope he continues this form for the rest of the season. Well done!
Savage has found his role in the team, and I hope he continues this form for the rest of the season. Well done!
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I believe both the Hawks and Saints will come out winners in this.Milne wrote:We definitely won this trade. Took a chance on a young bloke who couldn't get a regular run in a premiership side, and picked up 2 promising youngsters.
Savage has found his role in the team, and I hope he continues this form for the rest of the season. Well done!
Macevoy is still a classy ruck who in all probability get back in the seniors this week and Hartaung is showing some promise.
Dunstan has been pretty good and will only get better.
Savage is starting to settle and play good honest "Hawthorn like" football for us which can only be a positive
Acres has show little as he has been injured.
In a year or two when Dunstan and Acres are showing real potential and Savage is a mainstay in the seniors, and the Hawks are staring down another flag and Hartaung is going well, the fools at SEN and other who bagged the Saints for the trade will be nowhere to be seen.
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Nope. Dal Santo compo was after our original pick 24 so pick 25, and that went to Brissy with a pick downgrade for Billy Longer.dragit wrote:We lost McEvoy & 24 (Dal Santo compo) & 59 for those players… still a win.St Ick wrote:I prefer to look at the trade this way.
Hawks lost Buddy and Savage and gained McEvoy and Hartung.
Saints lost McEvoy and gained Savage, Dunstan and Acres.
Any way you look at that its a win for us.
I'm glad Sav is showing us what he is capable of, for those who wrote him off after two months of footy, humble pie hey. Well done Sav and keep it going!
I didn't bother with who lost draft picks as such, only players won and lost from both teams - note that the pick 59 was only a rookie upgrade pick.
To be technical, we 'lost' McEvoy and Hartung and gained our three. Hawks 'lost' Buddy, Dunstan, (then Acres after Buddy compo) and Savage and gained Mac, Hartung and upgraded Ceglar to main list - now do you know why I simplified it?
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Yep, I guess I was just suggesting that McEvoy didn't land us all that talent in return as we had that Hartung pick as you mentioned, which we slightly upgraded.St Ick wrote: To be technical, we 'lost' McEvoy and Hartung and gained our three. Hawks 'lost' Buddy, Dunstan, (then Acres after Buddy compo) and Savage and gained Mac, Hartung and upgraded Ceglar to main list - now do you know why I simplified it?
I wonder if Acres might have lasted to 24, just like I wonder if we'd taken Seb Ross with pick 20 when we downgraded it.
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I doubt Blake would've lasted but we will never know. I think we were in shock he got all the way to our picks tbh.dragit wrote:Yep, I guess I was just suggesting that McEvoy didn't land us all that talent in return as we had that Hartung pick as you mentioned, which we slightly upgraded.St Ick wrote: To be technical, we 'lost' McEvoy and Hartung and gained our three. Hawks 'lost' Buddy, Dunstan, (then Acres after Buddy compo) and Savage and gained Mac, Hartung and upgraded Ceglar to main list - now do you know why I simplified it?
I wonder if Acres might have lasted to 24, just like I wonder if we'd taken Seb Ross with pick 20 when we downgraded it.
An interesting fact for you all now, pick 59 was the pick Hawks used to upgrade Ceglar from the rookie list, Ceglar is the in form ruck keeping Big Mac out of the team, means nothing, but interesting none the less.
The fact Dees offered a pick in the 20s for Sav alone means we got a great deal from the Hawks.
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