Now I'm thinking about that f****** bounce again and Lenny Hayes busting a gut for nofhing
Ffs.
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BigMart wrote:Top clubs spend very little time at the bottom... IMO
Accepting bottoming out is an excuse to lose IMO
Culture of sustained success is what brings success... Not hoping the system of dipping into the top end of draft well will give you a shot?!
As we speak BJ is giving Ziebell a hiding!
So hypothetically, if we still had them, roughly where would we be in the ladder right now? And where would we be in 2-3 years?The Fireman wrote:BJ Dal & Ball are a big part of the spiral.
Yeah but the only difference is flog just out of high school wanna be journalists wouldn't have the balls to write about it even though it's Exactly the same situation .stevie wrote:The irony is that if we win one of those GFs then we prolly still end up in same boat but none of us would really care would we?
For a start we would be competitive on and off the field. Off the field with membership numbers..wins will keep that a constant besides people dropping off win they see their stars drop off.Johnny Member wrote:So hypothetically, if we still had them, roughly where would we be in the ladder right now? And where would we be in 2-3 years?The Fireman wrote:BJ Dal & Ball are a big part of the spiral.
It surely does.Johnny Member wrote:Off-field is a different debate, so I'll leave that alone on this thread.
On-field, the offset of being competitive instead of being outright s*** - is that you get Ok kids in instead of gun kids in. So as for when we could contend next is open for debate.
But in my opinion, once you're no longer a contender then it doesn't matter what you do. Every club will have it's decline and associated 'turmoil' that naturally comes with it, but as Teflon said above, it's what we do now that matters.
The Fireman wrote:Johnny Member wrote:
It's what we do now ? It's what we should have done otherwise you will keep on saying the former.
Wouldn't mind as much.......what we don't know is if a flag in our recent dominant era would've meant more members now and as a result a better financial standpoint.The Fireman wrote:correctstevie wrote:The irony is that if we win one of those GFs then we prolly still end up in same boat but none of us would really care would we?
BigMart wrote:Top clubs spend very little time at the bottom... IMO
Accepting bottoming out is an excuse to lose IMO
Culture of sustained success is what brings success... Not hoping the system of dipping into the top end of draft well will give you a shot?!
As we speak BJ is giving Ziebell a hiding!
Decent side, still not in flag contention… probably only $2,000,000 over the salary cap.BigMart wrote:Let's put Dal 30 , Ball 29 & BJ 28
Plus McEvoy 24 arguably Gram.... But I'll leave him out...
Bring in a FRP for 2009 because we couldn't have traded for Lovett and kept Ball
No Longer, Hickey, Savage, Lee, Saad, Milera for Compo
For example?
B: Roberton - Delaney - Geary
HB: Gilbert - Fisher - Dempster
C: Dal Santo - Armitage - Newnes
HF: Montagna - Riewoldt - Ball
F: Schnieder - Stanley - Goddard
Foll: McEvoy - Jones - Steven
Int: Hayes - Wright - Curran - Billings
Emerg: Ray - Dunstan - Webster - Ross - Gwilt
Amazing how 4 players can change the complexion of a team.... Especially 4 key mids