Gram was the biggest girl in the AFL, we get rid of him and get 3 more ladies for the forward line !fugazi wrote:TDL - counted 3 semi-squibs today...almost can't play him after that!
Look at the Cats and Hawks, how many softies do they have?
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Gram was the biggest girl in the AFL, we get rid of him and get 3 more ladies for the forward line !fugazi wrote:TDL - counted 3 semi-squibs today...almost can't play him after that!
Very clever hyphen there fugazifugazi wrote:TDL - counted 3 semi-squibs today...almost can't play him after that!
WellardSaint wrote:Gram was the biggest girl in the AFL, we get rid of him and get 3 more ladies for the forward line !fugazi wrote:TDL - counted 3 semi-squibs today...almost can't play him after that!
Look at the Cats and Hawks, how many softies do they have?
elvis lives wrote:One of the worst saints recruiting decisions in several years and we have had a few. The absolute last thing we needed was anothe skinny, mercurial fwd. what we needed was the best full back not currently on an afl list. Seriously, what was the point? We already had Milne, Schneider, saad and Milera. And in today's footy you can only afford two at most in any one team (though on that point Watters clearly disagrees). How a very well funded AFL organization made that decision and continues to perpetuate the folly by selecting two or three players incapable of getting more than 10 possessions in the same game is a real mystery.
hears footsteps and ducks his head......unforgivable imho.....spert wrote:Got skills but is too light to make serious contests- let's not blame TDL though for the terrible setup and tactical play in the forward line this season where the forwards just seem to have no idea where to lead to, where to stand around contests, and when they do lead, the midfield kick to the opponent! Bloody poor coaching and I'm losing interest big time.
Josh Hunt is a serial offender and multiple premiership player. Remember Harry O ducking the head in the last qtr of GF1. Also a premiership player. Don't stamp their papers over one incident. Terry in particular has an upside.stinger wrote:hears footsteps and ducks his head......unforgivable imho.....spert wrote:Got skills but is too light to make serious contests- let's not blame TDL though for the terrible setup and tactical play in the forward line this season where the forwards just seem to have no idea where to lead to, where to stand around contests, and when they do lead, the midfield kick to the opponent! Bloody poor coaching and I'm losing interest big time.
hunt and the drama queen have a hundred times more upside...they are at least afl standard footballers....tdl is not......sorry to say...i hate bagging our own and usually don't do it.....i would have loved to shove it up those scumbaggers last saturday night be we aren't going to do it playing substandard footballers who can't get a kick...or drop their head wen the ball is passed to them whilst they are out on their own8856brother wrote:Josh Hunt is a serial offender and multiple premiership player. Remember Harry O ducking the head in the last qtr of GF1. Also a premiership player. Don't stamp their papers over one incident. Terry in particular has an upside.stinger wrote:hears footsteps and ducks his head......unforgivable imho.....spert wrote:Got skills but is too light to make serious contests- let's not blame TDL though for the terrible setup and tactical play in the forward line this season where the forwards just seem to have no idea where to lead to, where to stand around contests, and when they do lead, the midfield kick to the opponent! Bloody poor coaching and I'm losing interest big time.
stinger wrote:hunt and the drama queen have a hundred times more upside...they are at least afl standard footballers....tdl is not......8856brother wrote: Josh Hunt is a serial offender and multiple premiership player. Remember Harry O ducking the head in the last qtr of GF1. Also a premiership player. Don't stamp their papers over one incident. Terry in particular has an upside.
gringo wrote:stinger wrote:hunt and the drama queen have a hundred times more upside...they are at least afl standard footballers....tdl is not......8856brother wrote: Josh Hunt is a serial offender and multiple premiership player. Remember Harry O ducking the head in the last qtr of GF1. Also a premiership player. Don't stamp their papers over one incident. Terry in particular has an upside.
Based on what? Why aren't they AFL standard -because you and Plugger66 don't like them? I back the clubs list managers more than some guys on a fan site. There always has to be someone who becomes a whipping boy and they have shelved Kosi and delisted Clarke so the two guys who have been chosen are guys with less than 50 games between them. There is always Saad if we delist these guys though. Well done carry on.
gringo wrote:stinger wrote:hunt and the drama queen have a hundred times more upside...they are at least afl standard footballers....tdl is not......8856brother wrote: Josh Hunt is a serial offender and multiple premiership player. Remember Harry O ducking the head in the last qtr of GF1. Also a premiership player. Don't stamp their papers over one incident. Terry in particular has an upside.
Based on what? Why aren't they AFL standard -because you and Plugger66 don't like them? I back the clubs list managers more than some guys on a fan site. There always has to be someone who becomes a whipping boy and they have shelved Kosi and delisted Clarke so the two guys who have been chosen are guys with less than 50 games between them. There is always Saad if we delist these guys though. Well done carry on.
plugger66 wrote: Gringo you are lying again. You need to stop it. It may impress a few on here but most would think its just silly. When did I say I dont like TDL. I dont think he is AFL standard and yes the list managers know 100 times more than me. What about LJ conners and Justin Sweeney and phil raymond and Brent Cowell and Chris Oliver and so on. The list managers get heaps wrong and a few right. i would probably get them all wrong. In your opinion we have no bad players so why are we one of the bottom 3 sides. My guess is we do have players not up to AFL standard and IMO he is one of them. You told me on another thread certain players should be delisted. Should I attack you and say the list managers know more than you?
gringo wrote:plugger66 wrote: Gringo you are lying again. You need to stop it. It may impress a few on here but most would think its just silly. When did I say I dont like TDL. I dont think he is AFL standard and yes the list managers know 100 times more than me. What about LJ conners and Justin Sweeney and phil raymond and Brent Cowell and Chris Oliver and so on. The list managers get heaps wrong and a few right. i would probably get them all wrong. In your opinion we have no bad players so why are we one of the bottom 3 sides. My guess is we do have players not up to AFL standard and IMO he is one of them. You told me on another thread certain players should be delisted. Should I attack you and say the list managers know more than you?
we have lots of players that are developing and key players down, moved on or out of form- that is why we are bottom 3. we need to step back to go forward, it will be frustrating but is reality. It's not reasonable to expect a guy with under 50 games to be delisted despite his age because he has a bad game. It is a mob mentality like where you come to the first guy you find in the street and bash them because you are frustrated with the lack of punitive justice.
Giving these guys time to find there feet will not always be rewarding but if the coaches think that they are worth playing that's good enough for me - the guys you mentioned hardly got a go so the people that were managing their development didn't think they warranted selection. TDL and Milera show glimpses and need time not dick head supporters calling to sack them or questioning their talent.
you calling me a d**khead now.???..care to explain why..????.i thought this post was about tdl...not me.....gringo wrote:TDL and Milera show glimpses and need time not dick head supporters calling to sack them or questioning their talent.
I never said I wanted to delist them just that they are in the gun. And yes people who don't share my opinion are all dick heads. You say I want to delist everyone and keep everyone in the same post? I say there are certain players that are worth looking at. I don't expect any one to listen just enjoy draft watching and finding bargain trades.plugger66 wrote:gringo wrote:plugger66 wrote: Gringo you are lying again. You need to stop it. It may impress a few on here but most would think its just silly. When did I say I dont like TDL. I dont think he is AFL standard and yes the list managers know 100 times more than me. What about LJ conners and Justin Sweeney and phil raymond and Brent Cowell and Chris Oliver and so on. The list managers get heaps wrong and a few right. i would probably get them all wrong. In your opinion we have no bad players so why are we one of the bottom 3 sides. My guess is we do have players not up to AFL standard and IMO he is one of them. You told me on another thread certain players should be delisted. Should I attack you and say the list managers know more than you?
we have lots of players that are developing and key players down, moved on or out of form- that is why we are bottom 3. we need to step back to go forward, it will be frustrating but is reality. It's not reasonable to expect a guy with under 50 games to be delisted despite his age because he has a bad game. It is a mob mentality like where you come to the first guy you find in the street and bash them because you are frustrated with the lack of punitive justice.
Giving these guys time to find there feet will not always be rewarding but if the coaches think that they are worth playing that's good enough for me - the guys you mentioned hardly got a go so the people that were managing their development didn't think they warranted selection. TDL and Milera show glimpses and need time not dick head supporters calling to sack them or questioning their talent.
How does d**khead supporters saying sack them or questioning their talent matter even one little bit? And why are they d**khead supporters? because they dont agree with you? I noticed in another thread you wanted to delist ledger and Simpkin. Whats the difference to me or other saying TDL and Milera arent AFL standard?
Gringo it seems you want to keep most players but it also seems you want to recruit many players. Im afraid you cant have it both ways. A person I met at my daughters netball explained that to me.
stinger wrote:you calling me a d**khead now.???..care to explain why..????.i thought this post was about tdl...not me.....gringo wrote:TDL and Milera show glimpses and need time not dick head supporters calling to sack them or questioning their talent.
gringo wrote:I never said I wanted to delist them just that they are in the gun. And yes people who don't share my opinion are all dick heads. You say I want to delist everyone and keep everyone in the same post? I say there are certain players that are worth looking at. I don't expect any one to listen just enjoy draft watching and finding bargain trades.plugger66 wrote:gringo wrote:
we have lots of players that are developing and key players down, moved on or out of form- that is why we are bottom 3. we need to step back to go forward, it will be frustrating but is reality. It's not reasonable to expect a guy with under 50 games to be delisted despite his age because he has a bad game. It is a mob mentality like where you come to the first guy you find in the street and bash them because you are frustrated with the lack of punitive justice.
Giving these guys time to find there feet will not always be rewarding but if the coaches think that they are worth playing that's good enough for me - the guys you mentioned hardly got a go so the people that were managing their development didn't think they warranted selection. TDL and Milera show glimpses and need time not dick head supporters calling to sack them or questioning their talent.
How does d**khead supporters saying sack them or questioning their talent matter even one little bit? And why are they d**khead supporters? because they dont agree with you? I noticed in another thread you wanted to delist ledger and Simpkin. Whats the difference to me or other saying TDL and Milera arent AFL standard?
Gringo it seems you want to keep most players but it also seems you want to recruit many players. Im afraid you cant have it both ways. A person I met at my daughters netball explained that to me.
I have known people who have played AFL at the highest level and know guys who have missed out despite being talented enough. I know people who's kids play at AFL clubs or are potential recruits. If you believe that family, friends, girlfriends team mates don't read and hear fan opinions then let them slip you are naive.
If I was Cripps folks last year when he was thinking of returning home and I had read the s*** that got said on here I would say get the hell out too.
gringo wrote:stinger wrote:you calling me a d**khead now.???..care to explain why..????.i thought this post was about tdl...not me.....gringo wrote:TDL and Milera show glimpses and need time not dick head supporters calling to sack them or questioning their talent.
Sorry about the Dick head bit maybe the more politically correct term is ordinary supporters...or positivity challenged football followers.