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Re: Welcome to the St Kilda FC Tom Hickey
I am sure he will prove that he is well worth a downgraded eel 13-26 I can't believe the negativity. Yeah we had to give up our first round choice but that is what you do to get quality players! Reading Brian's post & looking at GCS it wouldn't surprise me if we actually traded 46 to them not there 47 to us!
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Re: Welcome to the St Kilda FC Tom Hickey
Funny how people are saying we traded pick 13 for an unproven player - wouldn't the player we pick at pick 13 if we had kept it be unproven also?
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Lot to be said for those demonstrating potential in the big league vs those with potential in juniors. Countless top 10 / top 20 picks have amounted to nothing. I have faith in pelchen
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Re: Welcome to the St Kilda FC Tom Hickey
mad saint guy wrote:We really don't like hanging on to first round picks...and trading them isn't something that has worked for us in the past.
I hope Lee and Hickey are more successful than Brooks, Watts and Lovett.
I guess the offer to WC will now be something like Cripps, Pick 25 and 46 for Brown and 62
High price but Emma Quail is pretty spot on usually. i like lee and don't know how I rate Hickey yet as I haven't seen enough to judge. Got to say out of our first round picks over the last decade or so only roo and armo have really been worthy. We could have got Tambling and Fiora with 12 and 13. I still think we might get some good players around in the 20s the draft has a huge middle order and a very thin front and back. Come on Pelch get me Colquhoun.
Re: Welcome to the St Kilda FC Tom Hickey
WinnersOnly wrote:I am sure he will prove that he is well worth a downgraded eel 13-26 I can't believe the negativity. Yeah we had to give up our first round choice but that is what you do to get quality players! Reading Brian's post & looking at GCS it wouldn't surprise me if we actually traded 46 to them not there 47 to us!
Well that makes it even worse. Yes you do have to trade high picks for quality players. I dont see your point with that statement with this trade though.
Re: Welcome to the St Kilda FC Tom Hickey
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Gold Coast ruckman Tom Hickey is on his way to St Kilda. For pick 13 and a swap of second and third round picks.
Gold Coast ruckman Tom Hickey is on his way to St Kilda. For pick 13 and a swap of second and third round picks.
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Re: Welcome to the St Kilda FC Tom Hickey
Well at least people aren't sitting on the fence. I'll be bumping this thread in a few years ![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
Like Gringo said, Emma Quayle rates Hickey as the best ruckman available when comparing to this years draft and even ahead of Grundy who supposedly is the best junior ruckman of the last decade and regarded more highly than Matthew Kreuzer (compared to when he was a junior).
Personally I'm very surprised in this trade however it does fill a major list requirement and potentially sets us up in the ruck department for the next decade.
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Like Gringo said, Emma Quayle rates Hickey as the best ruckman available when comparing to this years draft and even ahead of Grundy who supposedly is the best junior ruckman of the last decade and regarded more highly than Matthew Kreuzer (compared to when he was a junior).
Personally I'm very surprised in this trade however it does fill a major list requirement and potentially sets us up in the ruck department for the next decade.
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This guy is a Queenslander who is coming here because of his girlfriend. Hope they last otherwise he could be gone before we see how good he is. By the way is this guy a sook like some accused Cripps of being for wanting to return home to be with his girlfriend?
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older saint wrote:Funny how people are saying we traded pick 13 for an unproven player - wouldn't the player we pick at pick 13 if we had kept it be unproven also?
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Time will tell, but I agree. This trade stands more chance of ongoing success than a kid who might come good in 3-4 years time at Pick 13.MC Gusto wrote:Lot to be said for those demonstrating potential in the big league vs those with potential in juniors. Countless top 10 / top 20 picks have amounted to nothing. I have faith in pelchen
A lot of posters wanted some action, now it looks like they've got it.
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Re: Welcome to the St Kilda FC Tom Hickey
True Believer wrote:Would have to be 26 &47.Buckets wrote:Pick 13 for Hickey and we get 26 and a pick in the 40's Brian edited his original post.
we have 25, 26, 37, 46, 47
OK so we have 25, 26, 37, 57
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C'mon mate please don't derail the thread. That's the last I'm gonna say on the matter.plugger66 wrote:This guy is a Queenslander who is coming here because of his girlfriend. Hope they last otherwise he could be gone before we see how good he is. By the way is this guy a sook like some accused Cripps of being for wanting to return home to be with his girlfriend?
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Not sure that's the case. Emma Quayle's tweet mentioned a swapping of 2nd & 3rd round picks , nothing too specific - I'm curious to know exactly what picks we've gained/lost.True Believer wrote:True Believer wrote:Would have to be 26 &47.Buckets wrote:Pick 13 for Hickey and we get 26 and a pick in the 40's Brian edited his original post.
we have 25, 26, 37, 46, 47
OK so we have 25, 26, 37, 57
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And a lot of posters reckon Collingwood is winning everything during Trade period.Verdun66 wrote:Time will tell, but I agree. This trade stands more chance of ongoing success than a kid who might come good in 3-4 years time at Pick 13.MC Gusto wrote:Lot to be said for those demonstrating potential in the big league vs those with potential in juniors. Countless top 10 / top 20 picks have amounted to nothing. I have faith in pelchen
A lot of posters wanted some action, now it looks like they've got it.
Imagine if Hickey had gone to the Pies for pick 20.
Re: Welcome to the St Kilda FC Tom Hickey
ST KILDA is set to land the ruckman is desperately craves with Tom Hickey on the move from Gold Coast in exchange for pick 13.
The Saints and Suns will also swap later picks to seal the deal.
More to come...
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The Saints and Suns will also swap later picks to seal the deal.
More to come...
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Re: Welcome to the St Kilda FC Tom Hickey
I'm not sure I would've had such an issue with it - I was really hopeful that under no circumstance we would trade our pick 13.Dr Spaceman wrote:And a lot of posters reckon Collingwood is winning everything during Trade period.Verdun66 wrote:Time will tell, but I agree. This trade stands more chance of ongoing success than a kid who might come good in 3-4 years time at Pick 13.MC Gusto wrote:Lot to be said for those demonstrating potential in the big league vs those with potential in juniors. Countless top 10 / top 20 picks have amounted to nothing. I have faith in pelchen
A lot of posters wanted some action, now it looks like they've got it.
Imagine if Hickey had gone to the Pies for pick 20.
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Its starting to sound like:savatage wrote:
Not sure that's the case. Emma Quayle's tweet mentioned a swapping of 2nd & 3rd round picks , nothing too specific - I'm curious to know exactly what picks we've gained/lost.
Lose: Picks 13 & 46
Gain: Hickey & pick 26
Re: Welcome to the St Kilda FC Tom Hickey
Last time we had pick 13 we chose Tom lynch! Not disappointed at all choosing a 200+ cm ruck man who has already shown he can play and play well!
Pick 25, 26, 37 think Ross, newnes and mark worth. Well done saints!
Pick 25, 26, 37 think Ross, newnes and mark worth. Well done saints!
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This year we could've picked the next Cyril Rioli as well! Better chance of picking the best talent with the earlier selections yes?
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I suspect you are right.Old Mate wrote:Its starting to sound like:savatage wrote:
Not sure that's the case. Emma Quayle's tweet mentioned a swapping of 2nd & 3rd round picks , nothing too specific - I'm curious to know exactly what picks we've gained/lost.
Lose: Picks 13 & 46
Gain: Hickey & pick 26
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kos wrote:Last time we had pick 13 we chose Tom lynch! Not disappointed at all choosing a 200+ cm ruck man who has already shown he can play and play well!
Pick 25, 26, 37 think Ross, newnes and mark worth. Well done saints!
We had different recruiters then. And the 3 you named have 5 games between them. A bit early to call.
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Trade week is not done yet. I reckon we may trade for picks yet!savatage wrote:This year we could've picked the next Cyril Rioli as well! Better chance of picking the best talent with the earlier selections yes?
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Not sure that's the case. Emma Quayle's tweet mentioned a swapping of 2nd & 3rd round picks , nothing too specific - I'm curious to know exactly what picks we've gained/lost.[/quote]savatage wrote:
OK so we have 25, 26, 37, 57
Well GC 2nd round is 26, so we get that and they get our 3rd round. So either 46 (3rd rounder we got from GWS) or our original 3rd round (57) which would make some sense if GC don't intend to use it.
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Look, I would be far more disappointed if we had given picks 12 & 13 away for 'ageing' stars. Both Tom Lee and Tom Hickey are still very young and could potentially fill two major list needs for the next decade. They've also got a few years of development playing senior footy so will be a lot closer to being in our best 22 (if they make it) than 18 year olds fresh out of high school.kos wrote:Last time we had pick 13 we chose Tom lynch! Not disappointed at all choosing a 200+ cm ruck man who has already shown he can play and play well!
Pick 25, 26, 37 think Ross, newnes and mark worth. Well done saints!
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Has everyone forgotten what happened when Ben was injured last year?
We desperately needed another ruckman. Now we have one.
If we can get a full back I will be happy with this trade/draft period.
Filling obvious gaps in our list with players that will get senior selection is a win for me.
We desperately needed another ruckman. Now we have one.
If we can get a full back I will be happy with this trade/draft period.
Filling obvious gaps in our list with players that will get senior selection is a win for me.