Raph Clarke on the move
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Re: Raph Clarke on the move
As with the majority of posters on this thread, I wish him well.
Is a much maligned player who is a lot better than he is given credit for.
Is a much maligned player who is a lot better than he is given credit for.
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There is no way that can be right. There's no logic. Then again it's the AFL we're talking about.St Ick wrote:Hope he leaves and I hope he does well. A bit like Goose, its rare that you lose a player and want to see them succeed!
Must say, if we are already sitting on max compo, losing Clarke for nothing seems to me that the compo system has a major flaw...
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Which tells us plenty about Middo and his mates, I'm afraid. No chance of you following BJ to Tullamarine?Middo wrote:Not sure why people think he could be a good player in another team and play consistent footy when he really only played a handful of good games with us over 8 years .....my mates still laugh when his name is mentioned.
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First rounder plus a third rounder?savatage wrote:There is no way that can be right. There's no logic. Then again it's the AFL we're talking about.St Ick wrote:Hope he leaves and I hope he does well. A bit like Goose, its rare that you lose a player and want to see them succeed!
Must say, if we are already sitting on max compo, losing Clarke for nothing seems to me that the compo system has a major flaw...
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as yet they have no logic for the compensationsavatage wrote:There is no way that can be right. There's no logic. Then again it's the AFL we're talking about.St Ick wrote:Hope he leaves and I hope he does well. A bit like Goose, its rare that you lose a player and want to see them succeed!
Must say, if we are already sitting on max compo, losing Clarke for nothing seems to me that the compo system has a major flaw...
the only given are the tiers of players-
BJ 1st ttier- supposedly a rd 1 pick
Raph Tier 3 or 4- as unrestricted and not within top % paid at club- so a round 3/4 pick
But where in the round, or if team loses more than 1 or 2- ie Port. then what>?
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Re: Raph Clarke on the move
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
My favorite player. Always felt he was seriously underated and seriously maligned ... often for things that weren't his fault.
Wish him nothing but the best
My favorite player. Always felt he was seriously underated and seriously maligned ... often for things that weren't his fault.
Wish him nothing but the best
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My understanding is that each player is assessed on his own merits.savatage wrote:There is no way that can be right. There's no logic. Then again it's the AFL we're talking about.St Ick wrote:Hope he leaves and I hope he does well. A bit like Goose, its rare that you lose a player and want to see them succeed!
Must say, if we are already sitting on max compo, losing Clarke for nothing seems to me that the compo system has a major flaw...
For instance....if Raph were deemed to be Goddard's equal, we would get 2 1st round picks....13 &14.
As it is, as someone mentioned before, if he goes as FA, we will probs get 3rd rounder.....
If we picked up a FA, then our compensation for Goddard would be reviewed. If he is deemed an A grader then we may get reduced compo or no compo at all, depending on his actual rating.
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I heard Carlton are quite interested.PADDLEPOP1001 wrote:Agree with the good Dr and BigCarl ,the guy has never been played forward of the centre ,I hope he finds a club and I wish him well!
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Tells us nothing. Even my mates hang it on him, wont find too many people in the footy world who dont. Fact is, he is an average player, he wont be getting any better. Played a few good games, showed courage, good guy, wish him all the best. Fact is, he is average.Trev from the Bush wrote:Which tells us plenty about Middo and his mates, I'm afraid. No chance of you following BJ to Tullamarine?Middo wrote:Not sure why people think he could be a good player in another team and play consistent footy when he really only played a handful of good games with us over 8 years .....my mates still laugh when his name is mentioned.
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That was my understanding as well - but today I kept reading other people saying it was based on a combined net worth & it would mean that we wouldn't receive any more than the mid first round pick for Goddard - which sounds absurd!!!Scoop wrote:My understanding is that each player is assessed on his own merits.savatage wrote:There is no way that can be right. There's no logic. Then again it's the AFL we're talking about.St Ick wrote:Hope he leaves and I hope he does well. A bit like Goose, its rare that you lose a player and want to see them succeed!
Must say, if we are already sitting on max compo, losing Clarke for nothing seems to me that the compo system has a major flaw...
For instance....if Raph were deemed to be Goddard's equal, we would get 2 1st round picks....13 &14.
As it is, as someone mentioned before, if he goes as FA, we will probs get 3rd rounder.....
If we picked up a FA, then our compensation for Goddard would be reviewed. If he is deemed an A grader then we may get reduced compo or no compo at all, depending on his actual rating.
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Re: Raph Clarke on the move
Well said, Doc.Dr Spaceman wrote:Raph, a Sainter who always tried his best.
Battled epilepsy and abusive fans.
Never gave the club any trouble off the field and by all reports a really top bloke.
Loved the Saints however appears, for whatever reasons, his career continually stalled.
Can only wish him all the best in the future, both on and off the field.
I hope he finds a second lease of life as a footballer.
All the best, Raph.
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Raph was a first round pick.... #5 from memory....or it could have been 8.
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Well if Mick wants to shake things up there, and didn't like the soft footy they play....Raph would be the first picked if it was about not shirking contests.bigcarl wrote:I heard Carlton are quite interested.PADDLEPOP1001 wrote:Agree with the good Dr and BigCarl ,the guy has never been played forward of the centre ,I hope he finds a club and I wish him well!
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Might go alright on a HFF. They are looking for biggish forwardsSainterK wrote:Well if Mick wants to shake things up there, and didn't like the soft footy they play....Raph would be the first picked if it was about not shirking contests.bigcarl wrote:I heard Carlton are quite interested.PADDLEPOP1001 wrote:Agree with the good Dr and BigCarl ,the guy has never been played forward of the centre ,I hope he finds a club and I wish him well!
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Mick would remember that final Raph played against Collingwood. If that was a game from Maxwell they'd have him knighted we just keep bugging him.
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+1Dr Spaceman wrote:Raph, a Sainter who always tried his best.
Battled epilepsy and abusive fans.
Never gave the club any trouble off the field and by all reports a really top bloke.
Loved the Saints however appears, for whatever reasons, his career continually stalled.
Can only wish him all the best in the future, both on and off the field.
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Trev from the Bush wrote:Which tells us plenty about Middo and his mates, I'm afraid. No chance of you following BJ to Tullamarine?Middo wrote:Not sure why people think he could be a good player in another team and play consistent footy when he really only played a handful of good games with us over 8 years .....my mates still laugh when his name is mentioned.
Tells us that we know a bit about footy Trev , now back to your bush champ !!
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#8 2003 NDbigred wrote:Raph was a first round pick.... #5 from memory....or it could have been 8.
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No room for sentiment when you're trying to succeed....
On ya bike Raph....
All the best, wherever you end up...
On ya bike Raph....
All the best, wherever you end up...
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I wish the guy well, but agree with Middo. Am not sorry to see him leave. IMO just not quite up to it.Middo wrote: Yeah some have but not a name dropper like some on here , my point being is he is not going to magically come good at another club ??
Will be interested to see how many clubs make a play for him , I'm guessing zero..!!
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Re: Raph Clarke on the move
personally would not like to see him go
and always thought he was the bleeding obvious choice for the third tall in the forward line
he was courageous in the air & had better disposal than Glibert
and always thought he was the bleeding obvious choice for the third tall in the forward line
he was courageous in the air & had better disposal than Glibert
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I'm another one with mates who continually remind me how often Raph turns it over, that he's a donkey, and they asked what he had on our coaches that resulted in him getting games, lol.
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Re: Raph Clarke on the move
Like most human beings, Raph has flaws and weak spots, and powerful strengths and abilities.
His flaws are technical -- those hosptal handpasses and feeble, looping kicks. And also perceptual -- those lapses in awareness, etc.
His strengths are moral strengths. Modestly, dedication, team-orientation, and -- foremost among them -- courage.
No more courageous player has played for the Saints.
I've loved him from the start. But I acknowledge he hasn't performed fully to all expectations.
I thank him, and wish him well.
The thought of people laughing at him makes me sick to the stomach.
Good on you Raph, and thank you -- you've been a true Sainter.
(Actually, is Raph really going? Or is it a rumour?
In which case, good on you Raph, and may you make it in your new home on the half forward flank.)
His flaws are technical -- those hosptal handpasses and feeble, looping kicks. And also perceptual -- those lapses in awareness, etc.
His strengths are moral strengths. Modestly, dedication, team-orientation, and -- foremost among them -- courage.
No more courageous player has played for the Saints.
I've loved him from the start. But I acknowledge he hasn't performed fully to all expectations.
I thank him, and wish him well.
The thought of people laughing at him makes me sick to the stomach.
Good on you Raph, and thank you -- you've been a true Sainter.
(Actually, is Raph really going? Or is it a rumour?
In which case, good on you Raph, and may you make it in your new home on the half forward flank.)