SaintPav wrote:skeptic wrote:joffaboy wrote:Right here.
And just think for some internet hero's here Ross lyon was an absolute idiot for not playing him
We all know if we had of played him in the 09 and 10 GF's we would have won both.
Ask skeptic, he will swear its the truth and undeniable fact.
uh huh
why not make up things when you can't win an argument eh JB
have to admit, you've been consistent with your bull$h!t on this one
remarkable how you continue to get on your high horse about a point no one ever made... still, guess it's easier for you then acknowledging that maybe if both the players played better and the coach coached better rather than one or the other we may have done better in 09
You really are contradicting yourself. On one hand, you say that even if our finishing was better, the outcome would still have been uncertain but you then say other team selections may have have made a difference to the result. Sounds like you are having an ideological dilemma.
You really are stating the obvious with your last point. Of course coaches and players have regrets after a loss. While that is normal, your hubris is nauseating.
No contradiction at all Saint Pav
Apparently 7.1 to 7.7 at halftime in the GF is made up, but maybe Lyon, maybe putting a player somewhere at some time and winning the GF is an undeniable fact.
I've given up on logic and reason with the Lyon haters. They are obviously so wrapped up in there own meme that common sense doesn't get through.
Skeptic believe that i have never critisised Lyon and think the sun shines out of his arse. It is a stupid black and white simplistic argument.
What I dont like is the revisionist view of Lyon, that he and he alone lost us two Grand Finals (as you say we played Collingwood and Geelong who had a bit of a say in it and the wayward kicking in front of goal in 2009 on a wet and windy day where we were 7.7 to 7.1 at halftime had no bearing whatsoever.
Apparently Lyon should have kicked those goals as well.
Really it is like arguing with a wax statue. An intranigient dogmatic specious argument.
Just remember with these types. Every thing St.Kilda good - Lyon bad.
must be wonderful to be so ignorant.