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I'm not even sure if the Crows will offer pick 24 for him. They've just used pick 10 on a player that won't play until 2013. I think they'll back themselves to pick up someone in the trade with pick 24 rather than on Lynch and offer their pick 2 for him.


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Old Mate wrote:I'm not even sure if the Crows will offer pick 24 for him. They've just used pick 10 on a player that won't play until 2013. I think they'll back themselves to pick up someone in the trade with pick 24 rather than on Lynch and offer their pick 2 for him.
Their 2nd pick is around 40 something - forget it he was pick 13. No one in their right mind would accept that.


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PJ wrote:
Old Mate wrote:I'm not even sure if the Crows will offer pick 24 for him. They've just used pick 10 on a player that won't play until 2013. I think they'll back themselves to pick up someone in the trade with pick 24 rather than on Lynch and offer their pick 2 for him.
Their 2nd pick is around 40 something - forget it he was pick 13. No one in their right mind would accept that.
Yea exactly. I don't see the point as there's no chance they'll give us pick 24 for him...That's Gunston territory and we've seen what sort of hype was around him. May as well keep Lynch unless we have to trade him for salary cap relief.


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PJ wrote:Tom's a first round pick - I'd be wanting serious compensation if he goes that's for sure. 2nd and 3rd round picks won't cut it.
Aaron Fiora was a first round pick - he was worth nothing on the actual market...let's face it - Tom doesn't play like a first rounder.


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I'd be suprised if Tom left St Kilda now that the Gunston trade is done and dusted. Unless we received Maric (straight swap) or Lewis then we are losing out.


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St Ick wrote:I'd be suprised if Tom left St Kilda now that the Gunston trade is done and dusted. Unless we received Maric (straight swap) or Lewis then we are losing out.
theres a rumor of armstrong going to sydney and somehow its involving lynch


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PJ wrote:Tom's a first round pick - I'd be wanting serious compensation if he goes that's for sure. 2nd and 3rd round picks won't cut it.
Aaron Fiora was a first round pick - he was worth nothing on the actual market...let's face it - Tom doesn't play like a first rounder.
Can't compare the 2 they're nothing alike. Tom's only played 5 games too early to call.


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St Ick wrote:I'd be suprised if Tom left St Kilda now that the Gunston trade is done and dusted. Unless we received Maric (straight swap) or Lewis then we are losing out.
theres a rumor of armstrong going to sydney and somehow its involving lynch
I assume thats the one involving Lewis Johnston.


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`I hope we just get a 2nd round pick, don't want a recycled player..


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hope we get something good for him


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PJ wrote:
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PJ wrote:Tom's a first round pick - I'd be wanting serious compensation if he goes that's for sure. 2nd and 3rd round picks won't cut it.
Aaron Fiora was a first round pick - he was worth nothing on the actual market...let's face it - Tom doesn't play like a first rounder.
Can't compare the 2 they're nothing alike. Tom's only played 5 games too early to call.
The point wasn't to compare players - I'm simply saying that the initial position a player was selected has no bearing on their later trade value...IMO if Lynch was being traded right now today - a 2nd rounder would be what he's justifying.

By next year - that could be a 1st rounder or it could be a 4th rounder.


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savatage wrote:
PJ wrote:
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PJ wrote:Tom's a first round pick - I'd be wanting serious compensation if he goes that's for sure. 2nd and 3rd round picks won't cut it.
Aaron Fiora was a first round pick - he was worth nothing on the actual market...let's face it - Tom doesn't play like a first rounder.
Can't compare the 2 they're nothing alike. Tom's only played 5 games too early to call.
The point wasn't to compare players - I'm simply saying that the initial position a player was selected has no bearing on their later trade value...IMO if Lynch was being traded right now today - a 2nd rounder would be what he's justifying.

By next year - that could be a 1st rounder or it could be a 4th rounder.
I understand but like I said IMO it's too early to make a call on what Lynch is worth


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PJ wrote:
savatage wrote:
PJ wrote:
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PJ wrote:Tom's a first round pick - I'd be wanting serious compensation if he goes that's for sure. 2nd and 3rd round picks won't cut it.
Aaron Fiora was a first round pick - he was worth nothing on the actual market...let's face it - Tom doesn't play like a first rounder.
Can't compare the 2 they're nothing alike. Tom's only played 5 games too early to call.
The point wasn't to compare players - I'm simply saying that the initial position a player was selected has no bearing on their later trade value...IMO if Lynch was being traded right now today - a 2nd rounder would be what he's justifying.

By next year - that could be a 1st rounder or it could be a 4th rounder.
I understand but like I said IMO it's too early to make a call on what Lynch is worth
That's why we pay professionals that see these guys everyday to ultimately make the call- but IMO if we're looking to secure more draft picks or involve ourselves & Tom Lynch is one of the players we sacrifice - my opinion is second rounder would be OK.


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savatage wrote:
PJ wrote:
savatage wrote:
PJ wrote:
savatage wrote:
PJ wrote:Tom's a first round pick - I'd be wanting serious compensation if he goes that's for sure. 2nd and 3rd round picks won't cut it.
Aaron Fiora was a first round pick - he was worth nothing on the actual market...let's face it - Tom doesn't play like a first rounder.
Can't compare the 2 they're nothing alike. Tom's only played 5 games too early to call.
The point wasn't to compare players - I'm simply saying that the initial position a player was selected has no bearing on their later trade value...IMO if Lynch was being traded right now today - a 2nd rounder would be what he's justifying.

By next year - that could be a 1st rounder or it could be a 4th rounder.
I understand but like I said IMO it's too early to make a call on what Lynch is worth
That's why we pay professionals that see these guys everyday to ultimately make the call- but IMO if we're looking to secure more draft picks or involve ourselves & Tom Lynch is one of the players we sacrifice - my opinion is second rounder would be OK.
Fair enough but unless he wants to go I don't see the point in going for a second rounder after the work that has been put into him at the club - the professionals you talk about would know best so we'll see what expires.

If the club we are talking about is Adelaide their 2nd round is a fair way down the list.


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PJ wrote:
savatage wrote:
PJ wrote:
savatage wrote:
PJ wrote:
savatage wrote:
PJ wrote:Tom's a first round pick - I'd be wanting serious compensation if he goes that's for sure. 2nd and 3rd round picks won't cut it.
Aaron Fiora was a first round pick - he was worth nothing on the actual market...let's face it - Tom doesn't play like a first rounder.
Can't compare the 2 they're nothing alike. Tom's only played 5 games too early to call.
The point wasn't to compare players - I'm simply saying that the initial position a player was selected has no bearing on their later trade value...IMO if Lynch was being traded right now today - a 2nd rounder would be what he's justifying.

By next year - that could be a 1st rounder or it could be a 4th rounder.
I understand but like I said IMO it's too early to make a call on what Lynch is worth
That's why we pay professionals that see these guys everyday to ultimately make the call- but IMO if we're looking to secure more draft picks or involve ourselves & Tom Lynch is one of the players we sacrifice - my opinion is second rounder would be OK.
Fair enough but unless he wants to go I don't see the point in going for a second rounder after the work that has been put into him at the club - the professionals you talk about would know best so we'll see what expires.

If the club we are talking about is Adelaide their 2nd round is a fair way down the list.
I think we were all expecting the pick #24 that Adelaide got in the trade - if it is pick 40 or whatever, then yes I'm on the same page as you...wouldn't be worth it.


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PJ wrote: Fair enough but unless he wants to go I don't see the point in going for a second rounder after the work that has been put into him at the club - the professionals you talk about would know best so we'll see what expires.

If the club we are talking about is Adelaide their 2nd round is a fair way down the list.
Harsh realities here... Lynch has shown zip so far. If we could get a 2nd rounder for him I'd be stoked. Adelaide's 2nd round is 35. They surely aren't that dim and won't give us that much.


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savatage wrote:
PJ wrote:
savatage wrote:
PJ wrote:
savatage wrote:
PJ wrote:
savatage wrote:
PJ wrote:Tom's a first round pick - I'd be wanting serious compensation if he goes that's for sure. 2nd and 3rd round picks won't cut it.
Aaron Fiora was a first round pick - he was worth nothing on the actual market...let's face it - Tom doesn't play like a first rounder.
Can't compare the 2 they're nothing alike. Tom's only played 5 games too early to call.
The point wasn't to compare players - I'm simply saying that the initial position a player was selected has no bearing on their later trade value...IMO if Lynch was being traded right now today - a 2nd rounder would be what he's justifying.

By next year - that could be a 1st rounder or it could be a 4th rounder.
I understand but like I said IMO it's too early to make a call on what Lynch is worth
That's why we pay professionals that see these guys everyday to ultimately make the call- but IMO if we're looking to secure more draft picks or involve ourselves & Tom Lynch is one of the players we sacrifice - my opinion is second rounder would be OK.
Fair enough but unless he wants to go I don't see the point in going for a second rounder after the work that has been put into him at the club - the professionals you talk about would know best so we'll see what expires.

If the club we are talking about is Adelaide their 2nd round is a fair way down the list.
I think we were all expecting the pick #24 that Adelaide got in the trade - if it is pick 40 or whatever, then yes I'm on the same page as you...wouldn't be worth it.[/quot

Pick 24 would definately be worth a look in but word here is that they'll hold onto this one after trading Gunston.


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Wasnt he runner up in the reserves b&f in 12 games.....thats something

he can only deliver on the oppotunities he gets


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Hope he stays and the new coach actually gimes him a chance next year down back where he was so good for Sandy.


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Rosco wrote:next monday should be good.

how many trades do people expect us to be involved with this week? from what pelchen has said i would expect maybe 2 or 3 players / picks will be moved around, will be an interesting weekend in the media if nothing happens before then.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was even less than that !!


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PJ wrote:
savatage wrote:
PJ wrote:Tom's a first round pick - I'd be wanting serious compensation if he goes that's for sure. 2nd and 3rd round picks won't cut it.
Aaron Fiora was a first round pick - he was worth nothing on the actual market...let's face it - Tom doesn't play like a first rounder.
Can't compare the 2 they're nothing alike. Tom's only played 5 games too early to call.
Fiora was getting better and was more inconsistent than terrible. If he had been pick 64 in the draft he would have been a beauty. He was the anti Ross Lyon, all tricks and no discipline- Show bag and so got sent packing. Lynchy just looks a little more like good fundamentals and no tricks.


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incorrect....Fiora was worth Heath Black on the open market

as thats who he was traded for......Black himself arrived at StK for a swap for Pick 17 (james kelly).....so Fiora in essence cost us James Kelly....who no doubt we would have overlooked anywho....

I reckon keep the boy....we have invested a lot in him...

why not give him an extended run....ala Armitage and then see if he can dliver


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Umm Fiora wasn't the point - it was about where they were taken...

OK let me change my named player taken in the first round to....

Daniel McAlister - Essendon
Caydn Beetham - St.Kilda
Andrew McQualter - St.Kilda

you get the picture...where they were taken is not relevant when looking at potential trades down the line....

Raph Clarke was taken at pick 8, do you think he would retain value at Pick 8 today?? exactly....


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gringo wrote:
PJ wrote:
savatage wrote:
PJ wrote:Tom's a first round pick - I'd be wanting serious compensation if he goes that's for sure. 2nd and 3rd round picks won't cut it.
Aaron Fiora was a first round pick - he was worth nothing on the actual market...let's face it - Tom doesn't play like a first rounder.
Can't compare the 2 they're nothing alike. Tom's only played 5 games too early to call.
Fiora was getting better and was more inconsistent than terrible. If he had been pick 64 in the draft he would have been a beauty. He was the anti Ross Lyon, all tricks and no discipline- Show bag and so got sent packing. Lynchy just looks a little more like good fundamentals and no tricks.
Yeah he could be a good solid player!


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BigMart wrote:incorrect....Fiora was worth Heath Black on the open market
Heath Black was headed back to Perth - we got involved in a 3 way deal last minute involving Freo & Richmond so we could get something....

As far as him being the set of "steak knives" he did alright for us. Certainly a better player than what Richmond gave us (at least in his first year with us).


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