Scott Watters?

chook23 · Post: # 1144930Post **chook23** » Mon 19 Sep 2011 7:24pm

saintbrat wrote:dermie rates his ID of game styles and plans etc- seeing what is happening....

maybe him for game planning etc and Harves for player develp-and rapport

has coached wafl

dermie rates him the highest of recent appointees
(excluding commenting on Lyon)

Pwoit · Post: # 1144966Post **Pwoit** » Mon 19 Sep 2011 7:57pm

This one's gaining legs.

I rate Dermie on game analysis he's very good. So to give an endorsement to Watters is good.

saintbrat · Post: # 1144968Post **saintbrat** » Mon 19 Sep 2011 8:00pm

Pwoit wrote:This one's gaining legs.

I rate Dermie on game analysis he's very good. So to give an endorsement to Watters is good.

even the non footballer on the panel said he ws amazed at the insights Scott has porduced when commentating a game with them.

Stillwaiting · Mon 19 Sep 2011 8:03pm

Has he actually applied for in of the coaching jobs, have not heard his name mentioned other than for us.

saintbrat · Post: # 1144980Post **saintbrat** » Mon 19 Sep 2011 8:15pm

Stillwaiting wrote:Has he actually applied for in of the coaching jobs, have not heard his name mentioned other than for us.

the new way

from our own sad experience and from what Neeld or McCartney said- they were asked... by the club looking..

Munga · Post: # 1154519Post **Munga** » Sun 02 Oct 2011 7:49pm

Some old articles on Watters coaching:

http://www.subiacofc.com.au/club-news/1 ... ters-.html

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/m ... 5934043857

SainterK · Post: # 1154536Post **SainterK** » Sun 02 Oct 2011 8:16pm

There is a certain irony in the fact we're all hoping for a little more attacking football next year, and Watters is a defensive coach.

gurubob101 · Sun 02 Oct 2011 10:53pm

109 games at AFL level.
Delisted after 46 games with the Eagles; then played 37 in Sydney before going home to WA when the Dockers started up. Averaged about 18 touches per game. Plenty of quality coaches were never stars however most of this breed were renowned as tough competitors... Laidley, the Scotts, Yabby Jeans, David Parkin... and even dare I say it , Ross Lyin was a pretty intense footballer. My memory of Scotty Watters is of a second string outside receiver with frizzy hair and stumpy legs. An unlikely Messiah and personally I'd prefer Conan or Banger but I guess whoever is 'the chosen one' deserves our full support.

clarky449 · Sun 02 Oct 2011 10:54pm

gurubob101 wrote:109 games at AFL level.
Delisted after 46 games with the Eagles; then played 37 in Sydney before going home to WA when the Dockers started up. Averaged about 18 touches per game. Plenty of quality coaches were never stars however most of this breed were renowned as tough competitors... Laidley, the Scotts, Yabby Jeans, David Parkin... and even dare I say it , Ross Lyin was a pretty intense footballer. My memory of Scotty Watters is of a second string outside receiver with frizzy hair and stumpy legs. An unlikely Messiah and personally I'd prefer Conan or Banger but I guess whoever is 'the chosen one' deserves our full support.

Im after his coaching ability not his playing ability.

BigMart · Post: # 1154585Post **BigMart** » Sun 02 Oct 2011 10:56pm

Whats his coaching ability like??

defacto · Post: # 1154598Post **defacto** » Sun 02 Oct 2011 11:21pm

BigMart wrote:Whats his coaching ability like??

excellent. i saw the work he did at subi in the wafl.

as far as hostory goes. subi always made finals but never made the grand final. they did once and got smashed when buckenara was coach. the board eventually got sick of getting so close but so far so they poached peter german who was coaching peel.

german had immediate impact and lifted the level of professionalism required of the players. he eventually got subi the elusive flag. watters was appointed after german resigned to pursure afl opportunities.

watters was very good but he inherited a great list. however he has an amazing raport from everyone at subi.

watters will be a great senior coach. its just a question of if he is ready now or if he needs to spend more time at other afl clubs.

if he is appointed i would look at bringing in another older coach for him to bounce ideas off.

would love to see german at the saints in some capacity. would also love to see maxy come back.

gurubob101 · Sun 02 Oct 2011 11:25pm

BigMart wrote:Whats his coaching ability like??

Took over a premiership side at Subiaco in The WAFL from Peter German, (currently coaching in the VFL). German coached them to flags in 2004-2006 and Watters won three in a row from 2007.
Senior players at Subi = Michael Rix & Des Headland.
So a great coaching record at a lower level. You'd have to line that up with Ayres amazing effort with Port Melbourne this year or giving a living legend a go and harnessing the support of former greats such as happened at Essendon this year.

BigMart · Post: # 1154627Post **BigMart** » Mon 03 Oct 2011 12:47am

He won 2 from 3 and lost in 2009.......subiaco won 4 in 6 years.....german built an increible team and watters continued with them...

The WAFL is a small step down from the VFL.....who easily beats the WAFL with 60% of the best players unavailable due to being on afl lists....

Having said that....coaching flags is importnt whatever level

Maccartney, neeld both coached successfully at contry level....experience your own team is crucial....assisstant coaches only have FA experience in resposibility.....they are not steering the ship or in the drivers seat.....

So he ticks that box......

And on his playing career.....he was an absolute star junior.....a knee injury in 1990......He left west coast after not getting in the gf team in 91....best years in sydney....runner up best and fairest there....joined the dockers on their inception as their innaugrial vice captain....
He was no gumby

gurubob101 · Mon 03 Oct 2011 2:56am

I don't share your generous assessment of Scott Watters as an AFL player. He was never a superstar in the mould of Blight, Matthews or Hird or a tough, uncompromising winner like Sheedy, Worsfold or Hafey. Nor do I believe that he is a clearly superior candidate for a senior coaching position. Other AFL clubs; Melbourne, Footscray and Adelaide; have already looked at him and moved on to make other selections in 2011. This is not to say that he won't be a great senior coach but more to point out that he is not the personification of the second coming of Norm Smith.

BigMart · Post: # 1154730Post **BigMart** » Mon 03 Oct 2011 10:52am

Not sure anyone was saying he was a star.....were they....he played 110 games....and was a runner up b&f at a bottom team..

And the second coming of norm smith.....how was that conclusion is drawn...we are discussing whether or not he would be even suitable as an afl senior coach...

The second coming of norm smith would need little discussion

Old Mate · Post: # 1154740Post **Old Mate** » Mon 03 Oct 2011 11:10am

Whats this German bloke doing? It sound like he built the successful team / culture in the wafl team and watters just capitalised.

Saints94 · Post: # 1154741Post **Saints94** » Mon 03 Oct 2011 11:12am

Old Mate wrote:Whats this German bloke doing? It sound like he built the successful team / culture in the wafl team and watters just capitalised.

He coaches Williamstown, they made it to the grandfinal.

Old Mate · Post: # 1154747Post **Old Mate** » Mon 03 Oct 2011 11:19am

And pantsed by conan

saintmont · Mon 03 Oct 2011 11:54am

Peter German was very good when he coached Burnie in north west Tasmania in the statewide league in the 1990's.

BigMart · Post: # 1154867Post **BigMart** » Mon 03 Oct 2011 1:34pm

Not sure anyone was saying he was a star.....were they....he played 110 games....and was a runner up b&f at a bottom team..

And the second coming of norm smith.....how was that conclusion is drawn...we are discussing whether or not he would be even suitable as an afl senior coach...

The second coming of norm smith would need little discussion

IluvHarvey · Mon 03 Oct 2011 2:03pm

I know stuff all about the candidates to be honest but there is a fair buzz about Watters.

However I would take anything Dermie says about him with a grain of salt. I heard him on SEN last week talk Watters up like there is no tomorrow but he did start it with "I'm not just saying this because he is a close friend but............................."

OneEyedSainter77 · Mon 03 Oct 2011 3:04pm

I know stuff all aboiut the candidates too but from what I've read and heard about them all, Watters is the man I'd most like to have.

dragit · Post: # 1154984Post **dragit** » Mon 03 Oct 2011 3:12pm

IluvHarvey wrote:I know stuff all about the candidates to be honest but there is a fair buzz about Watters.

However I would take anything Dermie says about him with a grain of salt. I heard him on SEN last week talk Watters up like there is no tomorrow but he did start it with "I'm not just saying this because he is a close friend but............................."

Yeah thanks Dermie, the guy that said Robert Harvey went on too longâ€¦

All from the mouth of a guy who hobbled around with 2 absolute rabble clubs well after his time in the sun.