Funny that the average supporter thinks the AFL GF is always the best umpired game of the year and I think McBurney has done at least 3 of them. Also the average supporter likes correct decisions and if McBurney has done so many GF's then I think that part of his game must be pretty good unless of course you dont think the AFL worry about that. Expecting a response like that wouldnt really matter to the AFL.Johnny Member wrote:The AFL's idea of a 'good umpire' would be vastly different to the average footy fan's idea of a good umpire.plugger66 wrote:Well that is a great response. Have you actually you are wrong about him because that makes a lot more sense than your answer.Johnny Member wrote:Of course it doesn't make sense - this is the AFL we're talking about.plugger66 wrote:
Why would McBurney get games and GF's if he is no good. That just doesnt make sense.
The AFL like the guys who can do all the actions correctly and with lots of theatre - the average footy fan couldn't give a f*** about how they prance around.
The AFL like the guys who bounce the ball consistently well. The average footy fan couldn't give a s***, most would rather they just threw it up and worried about more important stuff.
The average footy fan thinks a good umpire can determine whether an 'infringement' played any part in the outcome of the contest, and whether or not it was merely incidental - and not blow the whilstle and stop play and ruin a good contest, simply because technically a bloke's fingernail touched his opponent above the shoulder.
The AFL however don't think this matters one iota. They think good umpires are the ones who do exactly what they tell them to do without using their own brains at all.
So a guy like McBurney is probably a hero down at AFL house. He'd be getting great results in all his KPIs as set out by Geischen.
The problem is, for the people that actually watch the game he makes a mess of it and is shocking.
The same as McLaren. He was a terrible umpire.
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The average one eyed fan doesnt think rationally about umpiring..ever..
When Roo was paid that downfield free right on half time, kicked the goal and the siren went, the Roos fans gave the umps a pretty rowdy reception as they walked off. Saints fans were yelling "Oh have a big sook" even tho I will garuantee that 90% of them had no idea what the free to Roo was for
..but of course if it had been Petrie on the end of that free, we'd have screamed the place down, calling the umpires cheats, corrupt etc etc..so its OK for Saints fans to do it..but noone else
Some rabid fans just arent happy unless the free count is about +10 in our favour..thats about par for some
When Roo was paid that downfield free right on half time, kicked the goal and the siren went, the Roos fans gave the umps a pretty rowdy reception as they walked off. Saints fans were yelling "Oh have a big sook" even tho I will garuantee that 90% of them had no idea what the free to Roo was for
..but of course if it had been Petrie on the end of that free, we'd have screamed the place down, calling the umpires cheats, corrupt etc etc..so its OK for Saints fans to do it..but noone else
Some rabid fans just arent happy unless the free count is about +10 in our favour..thats about par for some
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It was about that last night and the people around me were still not happy, the ones next to me had absolutely no ideasaint66au wrote:
Some rabid fans just arent happy unless the free count is about +10 in our favour..thats about par for some
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Havent heard that stat before.
There was an absolutely shocking non decision against Petrie. Dawson arm chopped the crap out of him , then caught him high in marking contest. Petrie still held the ball but finally had it knocked out. Should have been a mark or a free kick.
But Kosi had a mega arm chop as well for no free kick. Loyd et all were ranting that it was a mark he should have taken, in the context of the game he should have grabbed it.
Yes also clearly noted how depressive and flat Lane, Walls and loyd became as we srarted taking control.
It was pathetic commentating. Try and stay interested you morons, you get paid for it.
There was an absolutely shocking non decision against Petrie. Dawson arm chopped the crap out of him , then caught him high in marking contest. Petrie still held the ball but finally had it knocked out. Should have been a mark or a free kick.
But Kosi had a mega arm chop as well for no free kick. Loyd et all were ranting that it was a mark he should have taken, in the context of the game he should have grabbed it.
Yes also clearly noted how depressive and flat Lane, Walls and loyd became as we srarted taking control.
It was pathetic commentating. Try and stay interested you morons, you get paid for it.
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The amount of frees paid, and whom they're paid to is utterly irrelevant.
The free kick count could be 86-1 and the game may have been umpired really well.
The free kick count could be 21-21 and the game may have been murdered by the umpires.
It's the most irrelevant, and potentially dangerous stat there is. If the umpiring fraternity and the AFL pay this stat the slightest attention, then god help us.
The free kick count could be 86-1 and the game may have been umpired really well.
The free kick count could be 21-21 and the game may have been murdered by the umpires.
It's the most irrelevant, and potentially dangerous stat there is. If the umpiring fraternity and the AFL pay this stat the slightest attention, then god help us.
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Not all footy fans are one-eyed.saint66au wrote:The average one eyed fan doesnt think rationally about umpiring..ever..
But clearly, when taking any form of feedback in regards to any facet of the footy, it's always risky to take it too seriously when it's from supporters of a club that's directly involved.
My comments are not in relation to Saints games though. It's in general. Probably moreso for neutral games, because I'm basically trying to be entertained - and the umpires (particularly McBurney, and Chamberlain and Vozzo) ruin it by getting way too involved.
It drives me mental watching a game that McBurney umpires. He just refuses to allow a contest to occur without getting involved.