Ease up on the Mids!
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Didnt Kosi ruck at least as much as Ben, if not more? And didnt the stats show Ben got the most hit outs on the ground.desertsaint wrote:mcevoy should give up trying to win the ruck contests and just look to hamper his opponent so the ball stays close to the centre - then it's stacks on the mill, with mcevoy first in. reload, do it again, and again - might get a draw that way!
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I have just looked up the ruck stats on both Champion Data and Pro-Stats, and I have some good news and bad news.desertsaint wrote:mcevoy should give up trying to win the ruck contests and just look to hamper his opponent so the ball stays close to the centre - then it's stacks on the mill, with mcevoy first in. reload, do it again, and again - might get a draw that way!
The good news is that we broke even in the hit-outs including centre bounces. McEvoy won more than half of his contests.
The bad news is his effectiveness was 33%, but putting that into perspective, Hale's effectiveness was also 33%.
Koschitzke's was 50%. Roughead's was 53%.
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okay, barring accidents, what with the advances in healthcare, i reckon i can hang around for that. better quite the cigs tho.Thinline wrote:2064 Rd 46.desertsaint wrote:Thinline wrote:which game is the question. this year?They're only one game away from turning it around though.
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"I thought I was meant to be full forward today?"SainterK wrote:Just stop with the team meeting before each centre bounce, we all know everyone is flying blind.
I'd love to know what they are saying, certainly not "I'll tap it here"
"No, pretty sure that's Kosi. And you're kinda too short."
"Oooohh. Not very fair. It was my turn. I'm gonna dob."
"BJ, Kosi's full forward mate. That's final."
"You guys all suck."
"But Kosi's rucking. Roos deep.?"
"s***. Where's Macca?"
"Rotated off I guess."
"Thank Christ for that. I thought we'd lost him. Snipers. They're everywhere."
"So what are we gonna do."
"Ummmmmm."
"Who here likes muesli?"
"Sometimes. Gives me gas tho."
"Yeah. Me too? Hey you using that new hair wax stuff that grammy gets Look's great man!"
"Thanks. I'm really happy with it. Smells nice too. So what about this tap...ruck...clearance thingo then?"
"Let's just do what Harves told us?"
"Doesn't he coach Freo?"
"No, not Mark. I meant Rob. You know. Dark hair. Quiet. Runs til he spews. f*****' weirdo."
"Ooooh Banger. Top bloke. Yeah. He does run a bit, huh."
"Yeah. What he said. Lets do it. COME ON. DO IT !!! YEAHHHH!!!"
"Um, what did Rob actually say?"
"s***, I wasn't listening. I was tweeting my Angry Bird scores"
"Well Rob is kinda quiet and a bloke's sure gotta tweet."
"Okay, so lets wing it then. I guess we need to win the ball. Armo...ARMO!? Jesus. What's wrong with you mate?"
"I'm....kinda...outta....breath..."
"Well your job is to do everything. You know. Standing up in Lenny's absence. f*** mate. Harden up, will you. You bleat about not getting an opportunity and now you're wasting it. Jesus..."
"I...I...OK..."
"s***. What's Buddy doing?"
"He's lining up for goal?"
"Oh."
"Gee. Nice kick."
"Loooong."
"Wow. Look how it flies."
"Okay. Here come the umpies."
"Centre bounce again. s***. What do we do?"
"I'm hungry."
"Me too."
"Can Harves cook?"
etc etc etc...
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I can lip read and you clearly missedThinline wrote:"I thought I was meant to be full forward today?"SainterK wrote:Just stop with the team meeting before each centre bounce, we all know everyone is flying blind.
I'd love to know what they are saying, certainly not "I'll tap it here"
"No, pretty sure that's Kosi. And you're kinda too short."
"Oooohh. Not very fair. It was my turn. I'm gonna dob."
"BJ, Kosi's full forward mate. That's final."
"You guys all suck."
"But Kosi's rucking. Roos deep.?"
"s***. Where's Macca?"
"Rotated off I guess."
"Thank Christ for that. I thought we'd lost him. Snipers. They're everywhere."
"So what are we gonna do."
"Ummmmmm."
"Who here likes muesli?"
"Sometimes. Gives me gas tho."
"Yeah. Me too? Hey you using that new hair wax stuff that grammy gets Look's great man!"
"Thanks. I'm really happy with it. Smells nice too. So what about this tap...ruck...clearance thingo then?"
"Let's just do what Harves told us?"
"Doesn't he coach Freo?"
"No, not Mark. I meant Rob. You know. Dark hair. Quiet. Runs til he spews. f*****' weirdo."
"Ooooh Banger. Top bloke. Yeah. He does run a bit, huh."
"Yeah. What he said. Lets do it. COME ON. DO IT !!! YEAHHHH!!!"
"Um, what did Rob actually say?"
"s***, I wasn't listening. I was tweeting my Angry Bird scores"
"Well Rob is kinda quiet and a bloke's sure gotta tweet."
"Okay, so lets wing it then. I guess we need to win the ball. Armo...ARMO!? Jesus. What's wrong with you mate?"
"I'm....kinda...outta....breath..."
"Well your job is to do everything. You know. Standing up in Lenny's absence. f*** mate. Harden up, will you. You bleat about not getting an opportunity and now you're wasting it. Jesus..."
"I...I...OK..."
"s***. What's Buddy doing?"
"He's lining up for goal?"
"Oh."
"Gee. Nice kick."
"Loooong."
"Wow. Look how it flies."
"Okay. Here come the umpies."
"Centre bounce again. s***. What do we do?"
"I'm hungry."
"Me too."
"Can Harves cook?"
etc etc etc...
"... what the hell was Ross on about..?"
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"I thought I was meant to be full forward today?"Thinline wrote:SainterK wrote:Just stop with the team meeting before each centre bounce, we all know everyone is flying blind.
I'd love to know what they are saying, certainly not "I'll tap it here"
"No, pretty sure that's Kosi. And you're kinda too short."
"Oooohh. Not very fair. It was my turn. I'm gonna dob."
"BJ, Kosi's full forward mate. That's final."
"You guys all suck."
"But Kosi's rucking. Roos deep.?"
"s***. Where's Macca?"
"Rotated off I guess."
"Thank Christ for that. I thought we'd lost him. Snipers. They're everywhere."
"So what are we gonna do."
"Ummmmmm."
"Who here likes muesli?"
"Sometimes. Gives me gas tho."
"Yeah. Me too? Hey you using that new hair wax stuff that grammy gets Look's great man!"
"Thanks. I'm really happy with it. Smells nice too. So what about this tap...ruck...clearance thingo then?"
"Let's just do what Harves told us?"
"Doesn't he coach Freo?"
"No, not Mark. I meant Rob. You know. Dark hair. Quiet. Runs til he spews. f*****' weirdo."
"Ooooh Banger. Top bloke. Yeah. He does run a bit, huh."
"Yeah. What he said. Lets do it. COME ON. DO IT !!! YEAHHHH!!!"
"Um, what did Rob actually say?"
"s***, I wasn't listening. I was tweeting my Angry Bird scores"
"Well Rob is kinda quiet and a bloke's sure gotta tweet."
"Okay, so lets wing it then. I guess we need to win the ball. Armo...ARMO!? Jesus. What's wrong with you mate?"
"I'm....kinda...outta....breath..."
"Well your job is to do everything. You know. Standing up in Lenny's absence. f*** mate. Harden up, will you. You bleat about not getting an opportunity and now you're wasting it. Jesus..."
"I...I...OK..."
"s***. What's Buddy doing?"
"He's lining up for goal?"
"Oh."
"Gee. Nice kick."
"Loooong."
"Wow. Look how it flies."
"Okay. Here come the umpies."
"Centre bounce again. s***. What do we do?"
"I'm hungry."
"Me too."
"Can Harves cook?"
etc etc etc...
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Not sure how our midfield cant be held responsible for a 18-3 centre square clearance count..but maybe Im just being too simplistic
I know this is possibly heresy, but if anyone else was midfield coach, this joint would be calling for his head..but cos its the great #35..hes allowed a bit more leniency?
I know this is possibly heresy, but if anyone else was midfield coach, this joint would be calling for his head..but cos its the great #35..hes allowed a bit more leniency?
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Point 1 - absolutely - hold the midfield accountable.saint66au wrote:Not sure how our midfield cant be held responsible for a 18-3 centre square clearance count..but maybe Im just being too simplistic
I know this is possibly heresy, but if anyone else was midfield coach, this joint would be calling for his head..but cos its the great #35..hes allowed a bit more leniency?
Point 2 - not so sure. Does 3+ years of tutelage under Elshaug just evaporate? And, can Harvey really be that bad? Favourite son or not, surely they did due diligence on him regardless.
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