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I havent seen Usain Bolt tackle. Anyway as good as Peake has been for us this year Ball has been better. We required a player like Peake but Ball would have been handy as well. The way I see who cares. One plays for us the other doesnt so we dont need to compare.ChicagoSaint wrote:peake can run and ping from 50 the disposal is the same. if you can run you can tackle.plugger66 wrote:In regard to what? If it is now being a Saints player you are right.ChicagoSaint wrote:Peake v Ball
Peake any day of the week.
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but this is a rivalry thread?plugger66 wrote:I havent seen Usain Bolt tackle. Anyway as good as Peake has been for us this year Ball has been better. We required a player like Peake but Ball would have been handy as well. The way I see who cares. One plays for us the other doesnt so we dont need to compare.ChicagoSaint wrote:peake can run and ping from 50 the disposal is the same. if you can run you can tackle.plugger66 wrote:In regard to what? If it is now being a Saints player you are right.ChicagoSaint wrote:Peake v Ball
Peake any day of the week.
rivalry threads are all about knocking the opposition aren't they?
i'd love to stay and debate with you plugs but i have to go to work unfortunately.
luke ball, desperate, can't kick it 35m, can't tackle a bag of sweets and can't run a risk.
when the cap comes in he'll be a shot duck. impact player that's all. he's stuffed.
that said, we needed a peake and the filth needed a ball.
Yes these type of threads are but I choose to stick up for an 8 year saints player who has captained our side and tried his guts out for our club for years. Plenty of other Pies players that we can have a go at. Maybe even some that Peake has covered.ChicagoSaint wrote:but this is a rivalry thread?plugger66 wrote:I havent seen Usain Bolt tackle. Anyway as good as Peake has been for us this year Ball has been better. We required a player like Peake but Ball would have been handy as well. The way I see who cares. One plays for us the other doesnt so we dont need to compare.ChicagoSaint wrote:peake can run and ping from 50 the disposal is the same. if you can run you can tackle.plugger66 wrote:In regard to what? If it is now being a Saints player you are right.ChicagoSaint wrote:Peake v Ball
Peake any day of the week.
rivalry threads are all about knocking the opposition aren't they?
i'd love to stay and debate with you plugs but i have to go to work unfortunately.
luke ball, desperate, can't kick it 35m, can't tackle a bag of sweets and can't run a risk.
when the cap comes in he'll be a shot duck. impact player that's all. he's stuffed.
that said, we needed a peake and the filth needed a ball.
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It's a shame this isn't true. Collingwood's first goal against us in round 16 was off Luke Ball's boot from the 50m line. I wisecracked, "he'll never kick it, it's too far" and he quickly embarrassed me for all the Pies supporters within earshot.ChicagoSaint wrote:luke ball, desperate, can't kick it 35m, can't tackle a bag of sweets and can't run a risk.
when the cap comes in he'll be a shot duck. impact player that's all. he's stuffed.
that said, we needed a peake and the filth needed a ball.
As for tackles, he has laid 126 over 19 games this season including 14 against Geelong the other week. Compare that to Lenny who has 131 over 20.
I would love to say he's a dud player but he's not. The fact is he is far more empowering for the Pies than he was for us, and we gained nothing from the move. I'm sure that is fuel for spite on our side.
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Then he's hit one flush from fifty in six or so seasons of football.InkerSaint wrote:It's a shame this isn't true. Collingwood's first goal against us in round 16 was off Luke Ball's boot from the 50m line. I wisecracked, "he'll never kick it, it's too far" and he quickly embarrassed me for all the Pies supporters within earshot.ChicagoSaint wrote:luke ball, desperate, can't kick it 35m, can't tackle a bag of sweets and can't run a risk.
when the cap comes in he'll be a shot duck. impact player that's all. he's stuffed.
that said, we needed a peake and the filth needed a ball.
As for tackles, he has laid 126 over 19 games this season including 14 against Geelong the other week. Compare that to Lenny who has 131 over 20.
I would love to say he's a dud player but he's not. The fact is he is far more empowering for the Pies than he was for us, and we gained nothing from the move. I'm sure that is fuel for spite on our side.
What you call truth, I call a fluke.
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You can't fluke capability.Thinline wrote:Then he's hit one flush from fifty in six or so seasons of football.InkerSaint wrote:It's a shame this isn't true. Collingwood's first goal against us in round 16 was off Luke Ball's boot from the 50m line. I wisecracked, "he'll never kick it, it's too far" and he quickly embarrassed me for all the Pies supporters within earshot.
As for tackles, he has laid 126 over 19 games this season including 14 against Geelong the other week. Compare that to Lenny who has 131 over 20.
I would love to say he's a dud player but he's not. The fact is he is far more empowering for the Pies than he was for us, and we gained nothing from the move. I'm sure that is fuel for spite on our side.
What you call truth, I call a fluke.
The argument is over whether he can kick over a jam tin.
Well, obviously he can, but not necessarily all of the time. Or often, even.
One of his most crucial kicks last year was on the wing outside 50 to the goalsquare with 90 seconds to go, to a pack that Gardiner crashed after a sprint down the other wing. That mark won us the game.
"... You want to pose a threat to the opposition in as many ways as you can, both defensively and offensively. We've got a responsibility to explore all those possibilities - and we will."
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If victory in the Grand Final with Luke Ball in the opposition team is our compensation for losing him, then I'd say the price is right.ChicagoSaint wrote:cap will kill him Inker. context is king.
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Different players around him at a club with different needs and a different way of managing their list with high rotations.SainterK wrote:If you look at the stats Luke Ball the Collingwood player is much better than the Saints 2009 model.
We can read whatever we like into that, but he is playing better at Collingwood.
So yay for little school boater-toting Luke, but are we worse off?
Not one iota, I reckon.
Would've liked a player for him, but as far as I can tell we're not really lacking as a result of his absence. Silver cloud is others have had (and often taken) opportunities. Any number of guys have patched the void. Bid whoop about Luke. He's a distant, faded, obscure memory to me now, perhaps indicative of his 'rarely there-ness' in recent years and the shortness of his highlights reel bar the odd recent time when his body actually allowed him to try. If indeed he was actually giving his all in the end. Seemed he only lifted when his specific interests were on the line.
"The inches we need are everywhere around us. They're in every break in the game. Every minute, every second. On this team we fight for that inch. On this team we tear ourselves and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's gonna make the f***in' difference between winning and losing! Between living and dying!'
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absolutely TLThinline wrote:Different players around him at a club with different needs and a different way of managing their list with high rotations.SainterK wrote:If you look at the stats Luke Ball the Collingwood player is much better than the Saints 2009 model.
We can read whatever we like into that, but he is playing better at Collingwood.
So yay for little school boater-toting Luke, but are we worse off?
Not one iota, I reckon.
Would've liked a player for him, but as far as I can tell we're not really lacking as a result of his absence. Silver cloud is others have had (and often taken) opportunities. Any number of guys have patched the void. Bid whoop about Luke. He's a distant, faded, obscure memory to me now, perhaps indicative of his 'rarely there-ness' in recent years and the shortness of his highlights reel bar the odd recent time when his body actually allowed him to try. If indeed he was actually giving his all in the end. Seemed he only lifted when his specific interests were on the line.
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and mark fine questioning depth.
mark fine: media man first, saint second, idiot third.
Fancy a saints supporter questioning depth. If he was a real saint he would accept everything and say the flag is ours. It makes sense and you know it.ChicagoSaint wrote:absolutely TLThinline wrote:Different players around him at a club with different needs and a different way of managing their list with high rotations.SainterK wrote:If you look at the stats Luke Ball the Collingwood player is much better than the Saints 2009 model.
We can read whatever we like into that, but he is playing better at Collingwood.
So yay for little school boater-toting Luke, but are we worse off?
Not one iota, I reckon.
Would've liked a player for him, but as far as I can tell we're not really lacking as a result of his absence. Silver cloud is others have had (and often taken) opportunities. Any number of guys have patched the void. Bid whoop about Luke. He's a distant, faded, obscure memory to me now, perhaps indicative of his 'rarely there-ness' in recent years and the shortness of his highlights reel bar the odd recent time when his body actually allowed him to try. If indeed he was actually giving his all in the end. Seemed he only lifted when his specific interests were on the line.![]()
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mark fine: media man first, saint second, idiot third.
By the way what has Mark Fine got to do with anything?
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from a bloke who is a buck short of a download himself that's GOLD!plugger66 wrote:I mean you need to get off the stuff. It dulls the brain.ChicagoSaint wrote:lol what do you mean plugs?plugger66 wrote:Means a bit.ChicagoSaint wrote:just thought i'd throw him in there plugs
thank god goldsack is getting a game because no way known he'd be in our 22!!
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IMHO the only difference between the;
August 24, 2009 model Luke Ball
and the
August 24, 2010 model Luke Ball
is that the 2010 model HAS NOT signed a "Heads of Agreement" to go to another club.
I am suspicious that it was "a done deal" as early as July 2009 and I would need solid proof to change my mind !!
August 24, 2009 model Luke Ball
and the
August 24, 2010 model Luke Ball
is that the 2010 model HAS NOT signed a "Heads of Agreement" to go to another club.
I am suspicious that it was "a done deal" as early as July 2009 and I would need solid proof to change my mind !!
NEW scarf signature (hopefully with correct spelling) will be here as soon as it arrives !!
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Well it is obvious something is dulling your brain.ChicagoSaint wrote:from a bloke who is a buck short of a download himself that's GOLD!plugger66 wrote:I mean you need to get off the stuff. It dulls the brain.ChicagoSaint wrote:lol what do you mean plugs?plugger66 wrote:Means a bit.ChicagoSaint wrote:just thought i'd throw him in there plugs
thank god goldsack is getting a game because no way known he'd be in our 22!!
By the way what was your previous nic before you got kicked off this forum last time?
Yep, he is where he wanted to be....Eastern wrote:IMHO the only difference between the;
August 24, 2009 model Luke Ball
and the
August 24, 2010 model Luke Ball
is that the 2010 model HAS NOT signed a "Heads of Agreement" to go to another club.
I am suspicious that it was "a done deal" as early as July 2009 and I would need solid proof to change my mind !!
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Eastern is absolutely correct in his assessment, however that doesn't make it right.SainterK wrote:Yep, he is where he wanted to be....Eastern wrote:IMHO the only difference between the;
August 24, 2009 model Luke Ball
and the
August 24, 2010 model Luke Ball
is that the 2010 model HAS NOT signed a "Heads of Agreement" to go to another club.
I am suspicious that it was "a done deal" as early as July 2009 and I would need solid proof to change my mind !!
The only thing that will make it right is complete and total failure on his part and on Max's.
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http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/newsfea ... fault.aspx
total of 170 demerit points.
sniped stiffy with a backfist.
pretty sure Stewart Loewe
(321 matches, best and fairest, captain, Team of the Century,
St Kilda. Three-time All-Australian. Tribunal Member
since 2005.) doesn't like that sorta stuff!
125 demerit points + 45 points carried over.Pies to contest Brown charge
Collingwood will contest Leigh Brown’s striking charge laid by the AFL Match Review Panel, in an effort to have the in-form utility available to take on Hawthorn on Saturday.
The incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points)
total of 170 demerit points.
sniped stiffy with a backfist.
pretty sure Stewart Loewe
(321 matches, best and fairest, captain, Team of the Century,
St Kilda. Three-time All-Australian. Tribunal Member
since 2005.) doesn't like that sorta stuff!