Gram?
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- saintnick12
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I take it you were watching on TV. Looked fine to me at the ground until he tackled someone right in front of the Moorabbin wing. Obviously hurt himself in the tackle. So you are saying it is his sole decision well sorry I disagree. It would be a combination and obviously both parties decided he was right and as I said both parties have a lot more idea than posters on here.matrix wrote:he DID not look right from the start
simple
and was played
whats that tell ya???
you think HE makes the decision whether he plays????
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This all sounds very similar to what happened when Roo did his hammy.
Had another injury earlier in the game, but they chose to roll the dice and let him play on and bang, hammy. Our staff may be "experts", but that certainly doesn't mean they can't pull the wrong string, especially when things are getting "desperate". I hope they didn't, or that if they did that they learn from it.
He certainly didn't look to be his usual self to me, early in the game.
Had another injury earlier in the game, but they chose to roll the dice and let him play on and bang, hammy. Our staff may be "experts", but that certainly doesn't mean they can't pull the wrong string, especially when things are getting "desperate". I hope they didn't, or that if they did that they learn from it.
He certainly didn't look to be his usual self to me, early in the game.
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lmfao
i asked if you thought is was his decision to play??
i didnt say iit was his decision
i actually think he gets f*** all of a say to be honest
and when numerous peeps say at the ground he did not look right and was with physios and he's been out for a few weeks and looked proppy the other game what ya reckon??
that he is fit?
pull the other one
he should nOT have been allowed to play imo
bad move
happy to be wrong but f*** me he looks nowhere near at full capacity (from last week and the 2 secs he was on the ground for)
i asked if you thought is was his decision to play??
i didnt say iit was his decision
i actually think he gets f*** all of a say to be honest
and when numerous peeps say at the ground he did not look right and was with physios and he's been out for a few weeks and looked proppy the other game what ya reckon??
that he is fit?
pull the other one
he should nOT have been allowed to play imo
bad move
happy to be wrong but f*** me he looks nowhere near at full capacity (from last week and the 2 secs he was on the ground for)
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Unfortunatly I don't think we'll ever see the best of Grammy. Has been on modified programs most of his career that has hampered his ability to perform.
At the start of the year he actually looked the sharpest he ever had,and I thought maybe this was where he was going to break out,but he's only lasted a few weeks again,and now has had two seperate soft tissues
At the start of the year he actually looked the sharpest he ever had,and I thought maybe this was where he was going to break out,but he's only lasted a few weeks again,and now has had two seperate soft tissues
Bring back the Lockett era
Well you must think we have very poor medical staff because if he was no good before the game they can only be described as useless. Anyway we agree to disagree.matrix wrote:lmfao
i asked if you thought is was his decision to play??
i didnt say iit was his decision
i actually think he gets f*** all of a say to be honest
and when numerous peeps say at the ground he did not look right and was with physios and he's been out for a few weeks and looked proppy the other game what ya reckon??
that he is fit?
pull the other one
he should nOT have been allowed to play imo
bad move
happy to be wrong but f*** me he looks nowhere near at full capacity (from last week and the 2 secs he was on the ground for)
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I think he was borderline and they all agreed he should play- it would have been a decision between them all, but ultimately the fitness staff would have the final say. Then he injured the hamstring - don't even think it was the same injury - think the hamstring in the game was a new injury and the issue before the game was groin related as he has been having problems. From listening to the radio at the game, he was off and down the race a couple of times in the first qtr for treatment. Never got going at any stage.
FWIW - I honestly believe that Roo's injury was also not helped by playing on with other injuries earlier in the game. But they can't pull every player off everytime they have a niggle, or there would never be anyone out there. It happens and has happened.
FWIW - I honestly believe that Roo's injury was also not helped by playing on with other injuries earlier in the game. But they can't pull every player off everytime they have a niggle, or there would never be anyone out there. It happens and has happened.
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i did not say we have poor medical staff
i do not think we have poor medical staff
i think the wrong decision was made.
it can be that simple you know...sometimes
probability says that even the greatest medical staff in the entire flipping world...might make a poor decision once in a while
nothing is ever 100%
like i said
happy to be wrong but even last week he did not look right imo
look like he did not really want to go into a contest
mehhhh
now he's injuried, out for god knows how long
brilliant
i do not think we have poor medical staff
i think the wrong decision was made.
it can be that simple you know...sometimes
probability says that even the greatest medical staff in the entire flipping world...might make a poor decision once in a while
nothing is ever 100%
like i said
happy to be wrong but even last week he did not look right imo
look like he did not really want to go into a contest
mehhhh
now he's injuried, out for god knows how long
brilliant
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Report in the Age today says Gram injured his left hamstring during the warm up.
Let's face facts, the fitness staff stuffed up.
It's probably the first time in 2 years, but it is a major stuff up.
The fact that Gram is always playing under duress may have influenced their decision.
They got it wrong this time.
Let's face facts, the fitness staff stuffed up.
It's probably the first time in 2 years, but it is a major stuff up.
The fact that Gram is always playing under duress may have influenced their decision.
They got it wrong this time.
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Agree with this and MatrixBernard Shakey wrote:Report in the Age today says Gram injured his left hamstring during the warm up.
Let's face facts, the fitness staff stuffed up.
It's probably the first time in 2 years, but it is a major stuff up.
The fact that Gram is always playing under duress may have influenced their decision.
They got it wrong this time.
Early in the game it was evident that he could not run at any pace.
Gram's run is vital to us. But no point playing him if he is not right.
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Re: Gram?
Yes if this is true it seems to be highly baffling.saint75 wrote:So obviously it was an insignifcant injury prior to the match, yet he could hardly run and didn't make an appearance until late in the first quarter and was iced up and finished after the second?Saint_Ash wrote:In the past players have been replaced after participating in the warm up.saint75 wrote:Unfortunately, because he participated in the warm up, they were unable to replace him with one of the emergencies. Obviously Gram felt that he was fine to play as our medical staff don't usually let our players back on at all in this situation.
As far as I understand it, and as long as the rules haven't changed. Once the team sheets have been submitted a player can only be replaced if an injury occurs at any time up until the first bounce.
The fitness staff are not known for allowing players to go and play injured under this regime, so can we explain why we didn't replace him with an emergency?
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