This weeks team

saintnick12 · Sat 08 May 2010 5:52pm

Is Armo injured or dropped

BakesFan · Post: # 919466Post **BakesFan** » Sat 08 May 2010 6:18pm

Maybe disciplinary?? Has he broken a Team Rule off the field?.... Surely if he's injured he wouldn't be named as an emergency?

jonesy · Post: # 919470Post **jonesy** » Sat 08 May 2010 6:26pm

He's been pretty ordinary for a midfielder. Hasn't been getting a lot of it...having said that I'd still have him in

Legendary · Post: # 919473Post **Legendary** » Sat 08 May 2010 6:36pm

10% of our tackles and 30% of our score last week ... you'd think he'd have kept his spot on form.

saintkid · Post: # 919474Post **saintkid** » Sat 08 May 2010 6:41pm

Is it definite he is out??

Mr Magic · Post: # 919477Post **Mr Magic** » Sat 08 May 2010 6:46pm

saintkid wrote:Is it definite he is out??

He's been named as an emergency adn Gram has been named as an inclusion.
I don't reckon anyone on here will really know until about an hour before the game.

I think it's just as likely that Gram won't play and Armo will.

saintkid · Post: # 919482Post **saintkid** » Sat 08 May 2010 6:59pm

Mr Magic wrote:
saintkid wrote:Is it definite he is out??
He's been named as an emergency adn Gram has been named as an inclusion.
I don't reckon anyone on here will really know until about an hour before the game.

I think it's just as likely that Gram won't play and Armo will.

Thanks for that. I guess if Grammy is ready to go then the two that would be considered to make way would be Armo or Steven. Pre-season the talk was Steven was a bit ahead of Armo and if true, maybe that's why Lyon went that way. Steven played an OK game for his first senior match.

ThomasR · Post: # 919483Post **ThomasR** » Sat 08 May 2010 7:03pm

Armo hardly touched it the other night. Bobbed up in the right places for a couple of goals but they masked what was a pretty ordinary performance otherwise

Saint Bev · Post: # 919486Post **Saint Bev** » Sat 08 May 2010 7:04pm

Mr Magic wrote:
saintkid wrote:Is it definite he is out??
He's been named as an emergency adn Gram has been named as an inclusion.
I don't reckon anyone on here will really know until about an hour before the game.

I think it's just as likely that Gram won't play and Armo will.

I think your right, no change.

Spinner · Post: # 919487Post **Spinner** » Sat 08 May 2010 7:04pm

Mr Magic wrote:
saintkid wrote:Is it definite he is out??
He's been named as an emergency adn Gram has been named as an inclusion.
I don't reckon anyone on here will really know until about an hour before the game.

I think it's just as likely that Gram won't play and Armo will.

Yeh I agree.

While Armo has been good, he hasnt been fantastic - And Gram when fit had to come in for someone.

I just hope Armo finds great form - signs for 3 years - and has a premiership medal having from his neck at the end of the year!

CeilidhSaint · Sat 08 May 2010 7:11pm

There goes all the Ball vs Armo stuff.
Pretty disappointing really for David.
Has had an opportunity to cement and hasn't taken his chance.

Mr Magic · Post: # 919494Post **Mr Magic** » Sat 08 May 2010 7:17pm

Well if the team is actually what has been named, we must be wexpecting to dominate the ruck contests, becasue we've replaced an inside mid with an outside mid.

If there was any thought of not comprehensively winning the ruck contests then I would have thought we'd require hard 'in and under' mids, which appears to be Aro's role in the team?

Who's going to give Lenny a breather in that role?
Steven?
Mini?
Schneider?

It's not the usual role that Dal, Joey or Gram play.

saintkid · Post: # 919495Post **saintkid** » Sat 08 May 2010 7:18pm

CeilidhSaint wrote:There goes all the Ball vs Armo stuff.
Pretty disappointing really for David.
Has had an opportunity to cement and hasn't taken his chance.

Ball is history. It will now be Armo vs Steven if Jack stays fit from foot/ankle problems.

CeilidhSaint · Sat 08 May 2010 7:25pm

That's exactly my point Saintkid.
Maybe speed was seen as an issue.
Geez I hate Chris Judd's sneery smile.

AccidentallyTim · Sat 08 May 2010 7:40pm

Mr Magic wrote:Well if the team is actually what has been named, we must be wexpecting to dominate the ruck contests, becasue we've replaced an inside mid with an outside mid.

If there was any thought of not comprehensively winning the ruck contests then I would have thought we'd require hard 'in and under' mids, which appears to be Aro's role in the team?

Who's going to give Lenny a breather in that role?
Steven?
Mini?
Schneider?

It's not the usual role that Dal, Joey or Gram play.

I think maybe Steven could play in and under, just rotate with Lenny?

How fast is Steven?

saintsRrising · Sat 08 May 2010 8:04pm

CeilidhSaint wrote:There goes all the Ball vs Armo stuff.
.

Though pre-season we were saying that Ball's replacement would come from Armo or Steven..with Geary also pushing up.

Steven and Geary are still in the team.

Gram had to come in. Though I am surprised it was Armo that went out.

However another factor at play may be not to play younger players every game.

saintkid · Post: # 919530Post **saintkid** » Sat 08 May 2010 8:48pm

CeilidhSaint wrote:That's exactly my point Saintkid.
Maybe speed was seen as an issue.

That's what I think too. Jack is noticeably quicker than Armo.

BelfastSaint · Sat 08 May 2010 8:50pm

Backs: James Gwilt / Zac Dawson / Sam Gilbert
Half backs: Steven Baker / Sam Fisher / Raphael Clarke
Centreline: Clint Jones / Nick Dal Santo / Farren Ray
Half forwards: Andrew McQualter / Brendon Goddard / Adam Schneider
Forwards: Jack Steven / Justin Koschitzke / Stephen Milne
Followers: Michael Gardiner / Lenny Hayes / Leigh Montagna
Interchange: Jason Blake / Jarryn Geary / Jason Gram / Steven King
Emergencies: David Armitage / Nick Heyne / Rhys Stanley

http://www.saints.com.au/season2010/new ... fault.aspx

Moccha · Post: # 919546Post **Moccha** » Sat 08 May 2010 11:04pm

I don't think Gram will play

Moods · Post: # 919547Post **Moods** » Sat 08 May 2010 11:05pm

With Blake AND King on the bench we look noticeably slow re our rotations. Usually clubs play a ruckman and 3 running types on the bench. Maybe this is why Armo has had to make way. Armo hasn't set the world on the fire but I would have thought he was doing enough to keep his spot. I know RL likes players who can spread from the contests, and I believe this is Armo's weakest facet of his game, and why Ball was on the outer when at the club.

SainterK · Post: # 919553Post **SainterK** » Sat 08 May 2010 11:21pm

Moccha wrote:I don't think Gram will play

I'd love him to, but I am not confident he will either.

Thought Armo did enough to keep his spot, he was crucial to last weeks win.

saintnick12 · Sat 08 May 2010 11:26pm

SainterK wrote:
Moccha wrote:I don't think Gram will play
I'd love him to, but I am not confident he will either.

Thought Armo did enough to keep his spot, he was crucial to last weeks win.

Maybe they knew all along that Gram won't play, but named Armo as the one to miss as a warning to him. Seems to have done enough from where I'm sitting, but maybe there is something in his preparation etc they are not happy with. Hawthorn did the same with Lewis (named him as one of the ones dropped then played him - Buddy was never going to play).

We are all guessing I suppose until the team sheets go in

Bernard Shakey · Sun 09 May 2010 12:07am

Gram will play!

SainterK · Post: # 919602Post **SainterK** » Sun 09 May 2010 12:16am

Bernard Shakey wrote:Gram will play!

Awesome, welcome return

SaintTom · Post: # 919609Post **SaintTom** » Sun 09 May 2010 12:24am

With Gram playing will Goddard might try and play a similar role to the role he played against Freo? (Hopefully as successfully...)