How many points scored in the last game of AFL footy you watched? (don't count Saints games though).degruch wrote:Hmmm...how many tackles in the last game of basketball you watched?rodgerfox wrote:You could have easily been excused for thinking Friday night's game was a game of basketball.joffaboy wrote:
or better still go and watch basketball.
Without the high scoring of course.
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Re: This boring structure and game plan will cost us members
Essendon v Collingwood...about 2000 points. Pretty boring game.rodgerfox wrote:How many points scored in the last game of AFL footy you watched? (don't count Saints games though).degruch wrote:Hmmm...how many tackles in the last game of basketball you watched?rodgerfox wrote:You could have easily been excused for thinking Friday night's game was a game of basketball.joffaboy wrote:
or better still go and watch basketball.
Without the high scoring of course.
bulls*** comparison though, so what's the point (excuse the pun). Are you seriously comparing football to basketball?
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I absolutely am.degruch wrote:
Essendon v Collingwood...about 2000 points. Pretty boring game.
bulls*** comparison though, so what's the point (excuse the pun). Are you seriously comparing football to basketball?
The likeness these days is scary.
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It's like comparing you to a St Kilda supporter.rodgerfox wrote:I absolutely am.degruch wrote:
Essendon v Collingwood...about 2000 points. Pretty boring game.
bulls*** comparison though, so what's the point (excuse the pun). Are you seriously comparing football to basketball?
The likeness these days is scary.
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Agree with a large part of that, not sure it needed the f bomb though...rodgerfox wrote:Clearly.bigred wrote:mmmmmm
The four points just taste so good though.
And Rocket's tears taste like watermelon....
The most enjoyable win I've seen almost.
People (Saints fans) need to be realistic about the criticism though. It's warranted in it's context.
We, and whoever we play, look horrible therefore the folks who come home from work after a tough week and settle in in front of the TV for a night of entertaining footy ain't getting it.
Everything I've read is absolutely true.
The most important thing is though, who gives a f**k? Not me.
If they start handing out flags to the most entertaining team then I'll be concerned - but until then I don't care.
We are 5th in the most goals scored this year, only 3 behind the dogs, I would argue that we haven't made a habit of this 'ugly style' of play so far this year.
Losing Friday night footy would be a small price to pay as a supporter if it meant getting another premiership, it's up to the club to weigh up the costs in regards to sponsors etc.
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Our last 3 have been pretty 'ugly' to the neutral supporter.SainterK wrote:Agree with a large part of that, not sure it needed the f bomb though...rodgerfox wrote:Clearly.bigred wrote:mmmmmm
The four points just taste so good though.
And Rocket's tears taste like watermelon....
The most enjoyable win I've seen almost.
People (Saints fans) need to be realistic about the criticism though. It's warranted in it's context.
We, and whoever we play, look horrible therefore the folks who come home from work after a tough week and settle in in front of the TV for a night of entertaining footy ain't getting it.
Everything I've read is absolutely true.
The most important thing is though, who gives a f**k? Not me.
If they start handing out flags to the most entertaining team then I'll be concerned - but until then I don't care.
We are 5th in the most goals scored this year, only 3 behind the dogs, I would argue that we haven't made a habit of this 'ugly style' of play so far this year.
Losing Friday night footy would be a small price to pay as a supporter if it meant getting another premiership, it's up to the club to weigh up the costs in regards to sponsors etc.
But why do Saints fans care?
No, our win against Freo was not ugly, it was a good attacking game...rodgerfox wrote:Our last 3 have been pretty 'ugly' to the neutral supporter.SainterK wrote:Agree with a large part of that, not sure it needed the f bomb though...rodgerfox wrote:Clearly.bigred wrote:mmmmmm
The four points just taste so good though.
And Rocket's tears taste like watermelon....
The most enjoyable win I've seen almost.
People (Saints fans) need to be realistic about the criticism though. It's warranted in it's context.
We, and whoever we play, look horrible therefore the folks who come home from work after a tough week and settle in in front of the TV for a night of entertaining footy ain't getting it.
Everything I've read is absolutely true.
The most important thing is though, who gives a f**k? Not me.
If they start handing out flags to the most entertaining team then I'll be concerned - but until then I don't care.
We are 5th in the most goals scored this year, only 3 behind the dogs, I would argue that we haven't made a habit of this 'ugly style' of play so far this year.
Losing Friday night footy would be a small price to pay as a supporter if it meant getting another premiership, it's up to the club to weigh up the costs in regards to sponsors etc.
But why do Saints fans care?
I certainly don't
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True.SainterK wrote:No, our win against Freo was not ugly, it was a good attacking game...rodgerfox wrote:Our last 3 have been pretty 'ugly' to the neutral supporter.SainterK wrote:Agree with a large part of that, not sure it needed the f bomb though...rodgerfox wrote:Clearly.bigred wrote:mmmmmm
The four points just taste so good though.
And Rocket's tears taste like watermelon....
The most enjoyable win I've seen almost.
People (Saints fans) need to be realistic about the criticism though. It's warranted in it's context.
We, and whoever we play, look horrible therefore the folks who come home from work after a tough week and settle in in front of the TV for a night of entertaining footy ain't getting it.
Everything I've read is absolutely true.
The most important thing is though, who gives a f**k? Not me.
If they start handing out flags to the most entertaining team then I'll be concerned - but until then I don't care.
We are 5th in the most goals scored this year, only 3 behind the dogs, I would argue that we haven't made a habit of this 'ugly style' of play so far this year.
Losing Friday night footy would be a small price to pay as a supporter if it meant getting another premiership, it's up to the club to weigh up the costs in regards to sponsors etc.
But why do Saints fans care?
I certainly don't
3 of the last 4 have been 'ugly' to the neutral supporter.
Nah, can't agree with you there, most neutral supporters enjoy Collingwood losing...rodgerfox wrote:True.SainterK wrote:No, our win against Freo was not ugly, it was a good attacking game...rodgerfox wrote:Our last 3 have been pretty 'ugly' to the neutral supporter.SainterK wrote:Agree with a large part of that, not sure it needed the f bomb though...rodgerfox wrote:Clearly.bigred wrote:mmmmmm
The four points just taste so good though.
And Rocket's tears taste like watermelon....
The most enjoyable win I've seen almost.
People (Saints fans) need to be realistic about the criticism though. It's warranted in it's context.
We, and whoever we play, look horrible therefore the folks who come home from work after a tough week and settle in in front of the TV for a night of entertaining footy ain't getting it.
Everything I've read is absolutely true.
The most important thing is though, who gives a f**k? Not me.
If they start handing out flags to the most entertaining team then I'll be concerned - but until then I don't care.
We are 5th in the most goals scored this year, only 3 behind the dogs, I would argue that we haven't made a habit of this 'ugly style' of play so far this year.
Losing Friday night footy would be a small price to pay as a supporter if it meant getting another premiership, it's up to the club to weigh up the costs in regards to sponsors etc.
But why do Saints fans care?
I certainly don't
3 of the last 4 have been 'ugly' to the neutral supporter.
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Game of the season so far...who could be upset about that (other than Filth supporters)SainterK wrote:Nah, can't agree with you there, most neutral supporters enjoy Collingwood losing...rodgerfox wrote:True.SainterK wrote:No, our win against Freo was not ugly, it was a good attacking game...rodgerfox wrote:Our last 3 have been pretty 'ugly' to the neutral supporter.SainterK wrote:Agree with a large part of that, not sure it needed the f bomb though...rodgerfox wrote:Clearly.bigred wrote:mmmmmm
The four points just taste so good though.
And Rocket's tears taste like watermelon....
The most enjoyable win I've seen almost.
People (Saints fans) need to be realistic about the criticism though. It's warranted in it's context.
We, and whoever we play, look horrible therefore the folks who come home from work after a tough week and settle in in front of the TV for a night of entertaining footy ain't getting it.
Everything I've read is absolutely true.
The most important thing is though, who gives a f**k? Not me.
If they start handing out flags to the most entertaining team then I'll be concerned - but until then I don't care.
We are 5th in the most goals scored this year, only 3 behind the dogs, I would argue that we haven't made a habit of this 'ugly style' of play so far this year.
Losing Friday night footy would be a small price to pay as a supporter if it meant getting another premiership, it's up to the club to weigh up the costs in regards to sponsors etc.
But why do Saints fans care?
I certainly don't
3 of the last 4 have been 'ugly' to the neutral supporter.
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There's no question we play ugly footy, especially when we don't have Riewoldt.
- The media are reporting this. This is their job. They have no vested interest in promoting unsightly football, but they do acknowledge we showed enough to win.
- We're entitled to be happy - or annoyed - with how we play. Some of us love, attacking, Geelong-type footy, others don't care, so long as we win.
- Will it cost us members? I don't think so, winning seems to be the barometer of membership at St Kilda.
- Is it a style of football that can win us a premiership? It's hard to say - we got very close last year but didn't have the extra gear when we needed it.
- What is good is that we're racking up wins, all of which becomes very important when we get Riewoldt back.
What's clear to me is that we're only a top four team without Riewoldt. With him, we're a premiership contender.
So if we can just keep getting the wins in his absence, no matter how they come, I don't really mind.
- The media are reporting this. This is their job. They have no vested interest in promoting unsightly football, but they do acknowledge we showed enough to win.
- We're entitled to be happy - or annoyed - with how we play. Some of us love, attacking, Geelong-type footy, others don't care, so long as we win.
- Will it cost us members? I don't think so, winning seems to be the barometer of membership at St Kilda.
- Is it a style of football that can win us a premiership? It's hard to say - we got very close last year but didn't have the extra gear when we needed it.
- What is good is that we're racking up wins, all of which becomes very important when we get Riewoldt back.
What's clear to me is that we're only a top four team without Riewoldt. With him, we're a premiership contender.
So if we can just keep getting the wins in his absence, no matter how they come, I don't really mind.
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For what it's worth, I actually find the Bulldogs style of the ball pinging from one end of the ground to the other with both teams kicking over 100 points to be the most boring footy of all.
I'm probably not really the best one to comment though, I can't sit through an AFL match these days full stop unless the Saints are playing.
I'm probably not really the best one to comment though, I can't sit through an AFL match these days full stop unless the Saints are playing.
While watching attacking football has its place, I do enjoy a hard physical struggle.rodgerfox wrote:For what it's worth, I actually find the Bulldogs style of the ball pinging from one end of the ground to the other with both teams kicking over 100 points to be the most boring footy of all.
I'm probably not really the best one to comment though, I can't sit through an AFL match these days full stop unless the Saints are playing.
Last night was ugly, no doubt about that. Just as the game against Fremantle was attractive.
However I have had enough of pitiful St.Kilda teams with no defensive ability, and no mental toughness.
I enjoy seeing my team 'tough out' a game and win what they probably should lose.
I suppose I shouldn'rt worry, but some broadcasters carry on about one crap game like it is the end of the world and that St.Kilda will drive people form the game.
Well our record 39k membership would seem to belie that dommsayer hyperbole.
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What is also clear is that St.Kilda seem to have several game styles. Our versatility is growing, we can be cinderella or the ugly step sisters from week to week and even during the same game - never boring or why would they be talking about us that much.
I've never seen a bad St.Kilda player - that's just how they are.
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Great Post.PJ wrote:What is also clear is that St.Kilda seem to have several game styles. Our versatility is growing, we can be cinderella or the ugly step sisters from week to week and even during the same game - never boring or why would they be talking about us that much.
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Well, you might as well ignore it. Seems to fire a lot of people up around here. Everyone's got an opinion.degruch wrote:The media are embellishing this.
FWIW, that was the lowest aggregate scoring game at Etihad Stadium. To think they're embellishing is a little crude.
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To sum up our 'style' for 2010 based on one game in R5 of the season is a little crude too, but embellishing any sceric of truth is what these 'sports journalists' get paid for. Of course it fires me up that our club is the whipping boy of the AFL year after year, doesn't it for you too?evertonfc wrote:Well, you might as well ignore it. Seems to fire a lot of people up around here. Everyone's got an opinion.degruch wrote:The media are embellishing this.
FWIW, that was the lowest aggregate scoring game at Etihad Stadium. To think they're embellishing is a little crude.
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One of the things I did like about the game was that there were at least some physical contests. The most boring games to me are where the ball goes from end to end without any body contact. Would have been nice to see a few more goals last night but the skill errors form both sides saw to that.
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Re: This boring structure and game plan will cost us members
rodgerfox wrote:You could have easily been excused for thinking Friday night's game was a game of basketball.joffaboy wrote:
or better still go and watch basketball.
Without the high scoring of course.
Saints footy is played by elite athletes who exert themselves to utmost possible for a human being.
Basketball is played by slow moving dinosaurs who waddle up and down a tiny postage stamp.
Oh referee he obstructed me, and my name is Michael Jordan and I am paid tens of millions a month, so can I have some free throws.
Otherwise the spectators will be more interested in the sexy young girls routines and Nike wont pay me $100 for every pair of shoes they sell.
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Agree with this, it was very enjoyable, maybe because we continue to show them up as pretenders.rodgerfox wrote:Clearly.bigred wrote:mmmmmm
The four points just taste so good though.
And Rocket's tears taste like watermelon....
The most enjoyable win I've seen almost.
People (Saints fans) need to be realistic about the criticism though. It's warranted in it's context.
We, and whoever we play, look horrible therefore the folks who come home from work after a tough week and settle in in front of the TV for a night of entertaining footy ain't getting it.
Everything I've read is absolutely true.
The most important thing is though, who gives a f**k? Not me.
If they start handing out flags to the most entertaining team then I'll be concerned - but until then I don't care.
Also agree on the criticism, it's warranted, forget the Mark Robinson hysteria stuff, but the rest is fine, Channel 7 were OK. You can't balme them, they pay so much money they need entertainment.
Did we really expect the game to reach much more heights than it did? I didn't, although may have thought the score would be a little higher
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Our game plan when poorly executed like against Port and the Dogs (except 5 mins) can be tough to watch, and Im sure I wouldn't like to watch us play at the moment if I wasn't a Saints fan, but, if we win Iam happy. And if we were to win a flag with poor execution in three ugly finals I could not care less.
When executed our game plan is great to watch. Roo's absence is obvious, but the loss of Grams excieting, yet some time wasteful run and carry has been a big factor in our often stagnent look in the past two weeks.
When executed our game plan is great to watch. Roo's absence is obvious, but the loss of Grams excieting, yet some time wasteful run and carry has been a big factor in our often stagnent look in the past two weeks.
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Quite right its the media's job to report it, not editorialise.evertonfc wrote:There's no question we play ugly footy, especially when we don't have Riewoldt.
- The media are reporting this. This is their job. They have no vested interest in promoting unsightly football, but they do acknowledge we showed enough to win.
Mark Robinson's article concentrating on the AFL and how they would view it, is not reporting.
Too many in the media are interested in is sensationalising everything and getting their name up in lights.