Brian Waldron
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How does the traffic offence fit into all of this, you know the one we cannot talk about, the one most on here didn't get to hear about?na exa wrote:what was going on , ripped apart the fabric of what was attempting to be achieved.
it wasnt gt versus the rest ,...he already had enough on his plate.
it was happening in St Kilda TIME , using St Kilda RESOURCES , and perpertrating the DISCO DAZE culture we were SET on changing.
producing fine young men / leaders , with the clubs best interests at heart ... in a hypocritical environment ... do as we say , not as we do.
(more talk the talk , instead of WALKING the TALK.)
rockets own 'spiritual advisor' came down on the the side 'against him'.
c'mon , its not that hard.
Then involving junior employee's to take the rap!
Is that part of setting the great example for everyone to follow?
Obviously Thomas according to you was a clean skin, so you seem to leave out the bits that don't suit your agenda!
Thomas was as bigger hypocrite as anyone!
C'mon it's not that hard, .......
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What's been reported is...saintsRrising wrote:That is not what has been reported.rodgerfox wrote:
The board made that call (much to his buddy's displeasure) for reasons you've mentioned above.
" it has emerged Waldron lost the confidence of the board and his administration over Medwell's rapid promotion and generous package."
The Board weren't happy with what was going on - but not for 'value' reasons. For professional reasons. Butterss it seems, wasn't concerned about it.
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Waldron left several weeks later, telling staff he was joining the Melbourne Storm. Butterss, already at odds with his former close friend and then coach Grant Thomas, lost the confidence of key administrators when Waldron - who was also a close friend of Butterss' - was afforded a generous payout from the cash-strapped club."
Butterss, from my mail and what is suggested above, was responsible for making sure his buddy got a very nice parting gift from our club.
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I have no need too.rodgerfox wrote:
Have a read of Na Exa's post above. It explains why GT had issues with it. Also explains why GT had issues with the pres' 'extra curricular' activities too.
It was absolutely directly related to the footy club's best interests.
Despite what you are claiming Butterrs showed Waldon the door.
GT then later commenced an onging fued with the President over as you term it RB's extra-curricular activities which in no way consumed St Kilda Resources.
GT wrongly allowed it to affect his duties an employee of the Club.
But GT and fueds were the norm.
It is much easier exercise to draw up a list of who he could work with, than who he could.
His inabilty to put work first hampered the saints in many areas.
Just look at for example the disaster that the Scoprions became = lack of proper development od St Kilda players.
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You seem to know a lot about these issues. Are you an employee of the club?saintsRrising wrote:I have no need too.rodgerfox wrote:
Have a read of Na Exa's post above. It explains why GT had issues with it. Also explains why GT had issues with the pres' 'extra curricular' activities too.
It was absolutely directly related to the footy club's best interests.
Despite what you are claiming Butterrs showed Waldon the door.
GT then later commenced an onging fued with the President over as you term it RB's extra-curricular activities which in no way consumed St Kilda Resources.
GT wrongly allowed it to affect his duties an employee of the Club.
But GT and fueds were the norm.
It is much easier exercise to draw up a list of who he could work with, than who he could.
His inabilty to put work first hampered the saints in many areas.
Just look at for example the disaster that the Scoprions became = lack of proper development od St Kilda players.
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sounds like another one of your made up stories to me.
i learnt a long time ago , like a number of others,
... don't be casting pearls in front of swine.
thanx for the cheap lesson.
xx
i learnt a long time ago , like a number of others,
... don't be casting pearls in front of swine.
thanx for the cheap lesson.
xx
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Your mail?rodgerfox wrote:
Butterss, from my mail and what is suggested above, was responsible for making sure his buddy got a very nice parting gift from our club.
What a fraud.
You only raise this now because of what Caroline Wilson wrote yesterday.
If you actually had "mail" on this why did you not raise it years ago?
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No.plugger66 wrote:
You seem to know a lot about these issues. Are you an employee of the club?
But I have spoken with various ex-employees and volunteers of various eras.
The Waldron "exit" was pretty common knowledge at the time.
However despite what Rodger wants to imply....actual "dismissal" would have been difficult if not impossible.
I mean whether someone should be promoted or not is going get back to subjective "opinion".
So as in many organsitions when such inapropraite behavior is believed to have occurred a "chat" is had with the "employeee" and a goldern handshake is often given for them to go.
Such "resignations' are not that unsual.
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So GT was upset because Waldron got undeserved money from OUR club, well I'll be,rodgerfox wrote:What's been reported is...saintsRrising wrote:That is not what has been reported.rodgerfox wrote:
The board made that call (much to his buddy's displeasure) for reasons you've mentioned above.
" it has emerged Waldron lost the confidence of the board and his administration over Medwell's rapid promotion and generous package."
The Board weren't happy with what was going on - but not for 'value' reasons. For professional reasons. Butterss it seems, wasn't concerned about it.
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Waldron left several weeks later, telling staff he was joining the Melbourne Storm. Butterss, already at odds with his former close friend and then coach Grant Thomas, lost the confidence of key administrators when Waldron - who was also a close friend of Butterss' - was afforded a generous payout from the cash-strapped club."
Butterss, from my mail and what is suggested above, was responsible for making sure his buddy got a very nice parting gift from our club.
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You wrote "sounds like another one of your made up stories to me"na exa wrote:sorry !
please 'paste' my lie or lies.
and then when you can't , come back and apologise.
you do know how to cut and paste yea ?
YOU know that is not true!
YOU know what happened!
Apologize to yourself for being so gullible!
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It seems does it RF?rodgerfox wrote:
The Board weren't happy with what was going on - but not for 'value' reasons. For professional reasons. Butterss it seems, wasn't concerned about it.
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I suggest that Butterss was very concerned by it. What I have read and heard does not support your claim in anyway shape or form.
The Board and RB were concerned with the "professional reasons'.
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Can't you follow your own posts?rodgerfox wrote:???saintsRrising wrote:
However despite what Rodger wants to imply....actual "dismissal" would have been difficult if not impossible.
What am I implying?
Or are you waiting for the next Caroline Wilson article for more "mail"?
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???saintsRrising wrote:Can't you follow your own posts?rodgerfox wrote:???saintsRrising wrote:
However despite what Rodger wants to imply....actual "dismissal" would have been difficult if not impossible.
What am I implying?
Or are you waiting for the next Caroline Wilson article for more "mail"?
I've been writing the same things for years on this topic.
I'm not implying anything. I'm stating what I was told by a Board member at the time.
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Nice slur Rodge.rodgerfox wrote:
Butterss, from my mail and what is suggested above, was responsible for making sure his buddy got a very nice parting gift from our club.
Now you bang on here about all your Senior Management experience.
So how does one go about exiting out an employee these days with whom the employer is unhappy about, but where there is not a cut and dried trail of clear performance issues with appropriated documented warnings etc?
In particular what does the employer who has the situation where it knows that something inappropriate has occuured, but does not have it "cut and dried " enough to satisfy a court of law?
What does a Board or Mangement Team do in such situations when even if they have a very good case that they know that:
* The court may not see it that way
* That bad publicity may occur and then be fueled?
I know what my business experience tells me what happens.
What does yours?
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I'm not the one in a tanty, complaining about mods, spamming the site with nonsense unrelated to football and generally living here it would seem 24/7, consciously or otherwise!na exa wrote:your not making any sense andrew.
calm down bro.
please put 'your' exact accusation , on the table.
what is it exactly that your in a tanty over ?
The site has almost become you, it's very sad and embarrassing!
but hey viva le revolution
fact is in an earlier post in this thread you painted Thomas as Che Guevara and Mother Theresa all rolled into one!
fact is Thomas's very own moral compass was in great need of adjustment, you know glass houses, stones and all of that,
Just noted you left out the pointy bits that didn't suit your Church Thomas agenda, that's all!
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I would not mind betting that Waldon's Termination Agreement would have had a non-discolure clause.rodgerfox wrote:
I've been writing the same things for years on this topic.
I'm not implying anything. I'm stating what I was told by a Board member at the time.
You are stating that a Board Member was happy to discuss this with you despite this? Is this correct? More so that said Board Member was happy to do this when the ink would have still been wet? If so one would have to question the ethics of said "Board Member" and in turn their credibility.
As for the same things. i think that post Caro that you have added some extra "same things".
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