Indeed. Their 'lesser lights' then.kosifantutti23 wrote:What kids?Thinline wrote:Any word if the Pies are playing their kids as well?
Their first pick was Luke Ball. They didn't have another pick until 62.
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Sigh. I come on here, out of the goodness of my own heart, to educate the entire know universe, and you don't even read my posts!Thinline wrote:Indeed. Their 'lesser lights' then.kosifantutti23 wrote:What kids?Thinline wrote:Any word if the Pies are playing their kids as well?
Their first pick was Luke Ball. They didn't have another pick until 62.
Buckley, Ball, Jolly named in the squad.
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Agree. We need to fast track this bloke whilst at the same time being patient (I know that sounds contradictory but it isn't)borderbarry wrote:DOnt be surprised to see Tom Walsh geta run in all the pre season games. He needs all the match practise he can get before the season starts for either the saints or zebras.
The NAB Cup's not the be all and end all and it's a good chance to get some experience into TW. His inclusion into the game is unlikely to affect our chances given the extended interchange bench including the subs (which RL has already mentioned as a role for Tommy at this stage)
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Spot on, saintspremiers.saintspremiers wrote:Buddy, this is a practice match.iwantmeseats wrote:Surely Walsh is not even NAB cup ready?
Any player, rookie or otherwise is NAB cup ready!
Even the home and away season is practice for the finals.
It's all about getting to that last Saturday in September and even then there are no guarantees as we all know. Let's take what we learned in 2009 and use it to do the job this year. NAB Cup, SCHMAB Cup.
....but I'm still going and I can't wait.
PS. Didn't know his name was Buddy. Almost sounds a little patronising
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2. Steven King, 3. Jack Steven, 4. Clint Jones, 5. Ben McEvoy, 6. Zac Dawson, 11. Leigh Montagna, 12. Nick Riewoldt, 13. Adam Schneider, 14. Jarryn Geary, 15. Michael Gardiner, 18. Brendon Goddard, 19. Sam Gilbert, 20. David Armitage, 21. Nick Heyne, 22. Farren Ray, 23. Justin Koschitzke, 25. Sam Fisher, 27. Jason Blake, 28. Rhys Stanley, 30. Brett Peake, 32. Andrew McQualter, 33. James Gwilt, 36. Tommy Walsh, 37. Leigh Fisher, 38. Will Johnson, 39. Alistair Smith, 44. Stephen Milne, 45. Luke Miles, 49. Steven Gaertner
MY SIDE
B: Geary, Dawson, Miles
HB: Ray, Fisher, Gilbert
C: Peake, Armitage, Montagna
HF: Heyne, Goddard, Schneider
F: Milne, Riewoldt, Gwilt
R: McEvoy, Steven, Jones
I: Blake, Smith, Johnson, McQualter, Stanley, Fisher
Subs: King, Walsh
Not to play: Koschitzke, Gardiner, Gaertner.
NOTES:
Top heavy side, a lot of talls, but it's all about development.
In saying that though I am not they'd pick all 4 ruckmen.
I reckon rest Gardiner (given he is the most precious commodity of the ruckmen IMO)
Koschitzke maybe to miss due to Ross Lyon saying last week that those who missed the Intraclub match would be unlikely to play this game. (Although mini missed as well).
Stanley to perhaps play half a game then get subbed for King.
McEvoy to take the main mantle.
Steven and Armo to start in square, let the boys go.
Very tall bench, but some flexibility on the ground in terms of runners.
Geary, Ray, Peake, Heyne etc to add some flexibility.
Pies a good midfield but not all that quick so might not be too bad.
Let's have a look at Miles again in defence.
Goddard, half forward, always wanted him there, although ideally not at centre half forward, preferably on a flank, but in this game seems a viable option
Overall, solid side, missing a few cogs but looking like a decent side more then capable of winning. But the result inconsequencial, develop the style and the kids, and if we win, bonus!
All this merely my oppinion of course
2. Steven King, 3. Jack Steven, 4. Clint Jones, 5. Ben McEvoy, 6. Zac Dawson, 11. Leigh Montagna, 12. Nick Riewoldt, 13. Adam Schneider, 14. Jarryn Geary, 15. Michael Gardiner, 18. Brendon Goddard, 19. Sam Gilbert, 20. David Armitage, 21. Nick Heyne, 22. Farren Ray, 23. Justin Koschitzke, 25. Sam Fisher, 27. Jason Blake, 28. Rhys Stanley, 30. Brett Peake, 32. Andrew McQualter, 33. James Gwilt, 36. Tommy Walsh, 37. Leigh Fisher, 38. Will Johnson, 39. Alistair Smith, 44. Stephen Milne, 45. Luke Miles, 49. Steven Gaertner
MY SIDE
B: Geary, Dawson, Miles
HB: Ray, Fisher, Gilbert
C: Peake, Armitage, Montagna
HF: Heyne, Goddard, Schneider
F: Milne, Riewoldt, Gwilt
R: McEvoy, Steven, Jones
I: Blake, Smith, Johnson, McQualter, Stanley, Fisher
Subs: King, Walsh
Not to play: Koschitzke, Gardiner, Gaertner.
NOTES:
Top heavy side, a lot of talls, but it's all about development.
In saying that though I am not they'd pick all 4 ruckmen.
I reckon rest Gardiner (given he is the most precious commodity of the ruckmen IMO)
Koschitzke maybe to miss due to Ross Lyon saying last week that those who missed the Intraclub match would be unlikely to play this game. (Although mini missed as well).
Stanley to perhaps play half a game then get subbed for King.
McEvoy to take the main mantle.
Steven and Armo to start in square, let the boys go.
Very tall bench, but some flexibility on the ground in terms of runners.
Geary, Ray, Peake, Heyne etc to add some flexibility.
Pies a good midfield but not all that quick so might not be too bad.
Let's have a look at Miles again in defence.
Goddard, half forward, always wanted him there, although ideally not at centre half forward, preferably on a flank, but in this game seems a viable option
Overall, solid side, missing a few cogs but looking like a decent side more then capable of winning. But the result inconsequencial, develop the style and the kids, and if we win, bonus!
All this merely my oppinion of course
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Looks like a pretty good team to me, I wasn't expecting Riewoldt to play to be honest.
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that's because he was injured for nine weeks and played 12 of his 13 games at sandy reserves.thequarry wrote:Paul Cahill has come in for Michael Gardiner - would be interesting to see how he goes if he gets a game. He's slipped under a lot of our radars in the past year.
our squad is significantly less experienced than collingwood's:
0 games (8): Cahill, Gaertner, Heyne, Johnson, Miles, Smith, Stanley, Walsh
1-20 games (3): Armitage, McEvoy, Steven
21-50 games (4): Dawson, Geary, Gwilt, Jones
51-100 games (5): Fisher L, Gilbert, McQualter, Peake, Ray
101-200 games (8): Blake, Fisher S, Goddard, Koschitzke, Milne, Montagna, Riewoldt, Schneider
201+ games (1): King
0 games (0):
1-20 games (6): Beams, Dawes, Macaffer, McCarthy, Reid, Sidebottom
21-50 games (6): Brown N, Buckley, Goldsack, Toovey, Wellingham, Wood
51-100 games (5): Cloke, O'Brien, Pendlebury, Shaw, Thomas
101-200 games (8): Ball, Davis, Didak, Johnson, Jolly, Maxwell, Medhurst, Swan
201+ games (4): Brown L, Lockyer, O'Bree, Prestigiacomo
nine to their twelve with over 100 games, and eight to their zero with no games! worth keeping this in mind when we inevitably have a disappointing loss.
but for mine that doesn't matter - i'm excited to see the kids.
Gwilt, Armo, McEvoy, Geary..this is your time!!
Yes this game is all about seeing the kids, but its also about seeing if the above players, who are now either our of or breaking out of "kid" status, can take on responible roles against seasoned opposition
Wouldnt it be great to see the tag "exciting youngster" attached to one of our young' uns?? God its been too long.
Even a win tomorrow night would be a little hollow if its done on the back of Roo kicking a bag, or Joey getting 35 touches, or CJ keepng his opponent quiet. We already know they can do that
A loss tomorrow night would be, IMO, significantly more dissapointing if comes with phrases like "St Kildas young players failed to make any impression" and the above four players share a dozen touches and a solitary goal.
Yes this game is all about seeing the kids, but its also about seeing if the above players, who are now either our of or breaking out of "kid" status, can take on responible roles against seasoned opposition
Wouldnt it be great to see the tag "exciting youngster" attached to one of our young' uns?? God its been too long.
Even a win tomorrow night would be a little hollow if its done on the back of Roo kicking a bag, or Joey getting 35 touches, or CJ keepng his opponent quiet. We already know they can do that
A loss tomorrow night would be, IMO, significantly more dissapointing if comes with phrases like "St Kildas young players failed to make any impression" and the above four players share a dozen touches and a solitary goal.
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very good point. i'd love to see a performance from a couple on the "0 games" list, especially heyne, miles, stanley. and performances are really required from armo, mcevoy, steven, geary, gwilt, peake - even l fisher - if they want a leg up on a spot this year.saint66au wrote:A loss tomorrow night would be, IMO, significantly more dissapointing if comes with phrases like "St Kildas young players failed to make any impression" and the above four players share a dozen touches and a solitary goal.
let's hope this pressure makes some diamonds...