How many Indigenous players do we really have?

[ace]

All depends om your definition of indigenous.
The defunct ATSIC let those with only 6.25% aboriginal blood pretend to be aboriginal.
That's one great-great-grandfather aboriginal and everyone else non aboriginal.

[borderbarry]

That would more likely be one great great grandmother, our history with aborigines being what it is.

[iwantmeseats]

errr, dare I say one less as of today. hmm.

[stinger]

errr, dare I say one less as of today. hmm.

beat me to it...

[Foz]

+1 or is that -1 ?

[ace]

Isn't Roo indigenous to QLD ?

Roo's indigenous to Australia.
So is AFL

[st_Trav_ofWA]

but the funniest one was kevin sheedy picking daniel kerr in his aboriginal all stars team - daniel is of sri lankan heritage-

indian, actually.

yep. you is right! i just checked. i remember in the paper is said he was lankan. but according to wiki hes anglo/indian - from bengal!

correct anglo indian ... basically to be classed anglo indian on the fathers side not further then 2 generations ago had to be born of european decent but the next generation being born in india ... i know im an australian born anglo indian so my children will be anglo indian but their children (unless born in inda) will not be anglo ... its confusing i know

[asiu]

That would more likely be one great great grandmother, our history with aborigines being what it is.

sharp

pretend to be aboriginal.

pretending to be sentient ?

[Saint_in_SA]

And u are right, u can have a pail skinned aboriginal

Most of the people who run 7/11's are not of Indian decent it is just it is so bright in there it is like a salerium...

So u cannot take people on skin value

GOLD

[asiu]

Roo's indigenous to Australia.

oh yea , thats bullsh!t as well

we are tasmanians , before australians .... thanx

[Hurricane]

Isn't Roo indigenous to QLD ?

No. To Tassy.

I think we can all agree Roo is indigenous to awesome

BANG BANG

[GrumpyOne]

The defunct ATSIC let those with only 6.25% aboriginal blood pretend to be aboriginal.

That is probably the most ignorant uninformed statement I have ever read on SS.

Why would anybody want to pretend to be a member of the most genocide affected race on earth?

[saintspremiers]

The defunct ATSIC let those with only 6.25% aboriginal blood pretend to be aboriginal.

That is probably the most ignorant uninformed statement I have ever read on SS.

Why would anybody want to pretend to be a member of the most genocide affected race on earth?

Mabo. Land grab.

Does that help you GO?

[asiu]

.....genocide affected race on earth

they cleaned my mob off the face of the effn planet

after gettn down there during the last ice age ...no reward for effort at all


thats worth a

[The Fireman]

I am indigenouss ...(I have spell check and couldn't be stuffed using it simply because is it is an overly complicated word that comes with overly complicated connotations)
....to this planet ....what planet are we on again?

[GrumpyOne]

The defunct ATSIC let those with only 6.25% aboriginal blood pretend to be aboriginal.

That is probably the most ignorant uninformed statement I have ever read on SS.

Why would anybody want to pretend to be a member of the most genocide affected race on earth?

Mabo. Land grab.

Does that help you GO?

Yes it does.

Where are the treaties that allowed the Crown to assume all lands occupied by indigenous persons as vacant land?

[stinger]

Roo's indigenous to Australia.

oh yea , thats bullsh!t as well

we are tasmanians , before australians .... thanx

when did you first arrive in australia.....??


ps...we might be related....

[I Love Peter Kiel]

I would hardly say that Australian Aborigines are the most genocide affected race on earth!
Do you guys know any history from before the Iraq War? Like Julius Caesar massacring Gauls? Or more recently Rwanda? Arm*nians killed by T*rks? What about the little matter of the millions of J%ws killed in WWII?
Have you heard of the potato famine in Ireland? Thousands have been killed in Sudan this decade.
Over 200 000 Australians now identify themselves as "indigenous". That's about double the number estimated to be here when the First Fleet arrived in 1788.

[Milan Faletic]

In the late 80's I played with an aboriginal fella named Alan Thorpe. He played about 20 games for Fitzroy and the dogs. Blonde hair, blue eyes and as fair as skin as you're likely to see. He now assists young aboriginal players within the AFL and in other areas. Great bloke Thorpey, but I always felt a bit sorry for him as he was very much an aboriginal in every way, but not everyone recognised it.

He is a co-host of the Marngrook Footy Show which is on Ch 31 and NITV.

[GrumpyOne]

I would hardly say that Australian Aborigines are the most genocide affected race on earth!
Do you guys know any history from before the Iraq War? Like Julius Caesar massacring Gauls? Or more recently Rwanda? Arm*nians killed by T*rks? What about the little matter of the millions of J%ws killed in WWII?
Have you heard of the potato famine in Ireland? Thousands have been killed in Sudan this decade.
Over 200 000 Australians now identify themselves as "indigenous". That's about double the number estimated to be here when the First Fleet arrived in 1788.

The genocide of Australian Aboriginals has been going for 220 years so far without any sign of stopping. The examples you quote are conflicts that lasted for less time.

I'm not surprised at your figure of 200,000. With modern medicine, and plentiful food, the natural circumstances that kept the birth rate down have now been totally eliminated. Not sure about your accuracy in Quoting 100,000 when the First Fleet arrived..... It's not as if anyone conducted a census on arrival..... it would be like estimating the number of possums in australia at that time.

[asiu]

when did you first arrive in australia.....??

1983 for me

came over here seeking my fame and fortune

still bloody well looking for for it

[asiu]

I would hardly say that Australian Aborigines are the most genocide affected race on earth!

fookme

wiped off the face of the planet must put us up there somewhere , surely

poison , shoot , shame , assimilate , take , 'legally' break then call it fate

just grubs on the shrubs were we ?


fookoff

[I Love Peter Kiel]

Many of you have the black armband view of history. There was no state-sponsored systematic genocide of indigenous people in this country. There was displacement, injustice and there were some massacres. There were also massacres of Chinese during the Gold Rush. These were bad things, but they cannot be changed now. The best thing we can do now is treat everyone equally and try to ensure that today's children have access to education and wider employment opportunities.
You can't call it genocide if the population has increased. Surely having plentiful food and modern medicine is a good thing?

Unfortunately we now have remote aboriginal communities like Wadeye where people are paid "sit down money" and there's a huge amount of school-refusal so kids don't learn English. Living in a tribal community may seem romantic to some of you, but you can obviously already speak English and express yourself reasonably well, read newspapers, have access to the internet, have skills that you can use at work, are able to travel and be part of the wider world. many of these kids don't have that choice.

[joffaboy]

Many of you have the black armband view of history. There was no state-sponsored systematic genocide of indigenous people in this country. There was displacement, injustice and there were some massacres. There were also massacres of Chinese during the Gold Rush. These were bad things, but they cannot be changed now. The best thing we can do now is treat everyone equally and try to ensure that today's children have access to education and wider employment opportunities.
You can't call it genocide if the population has increased. Surely having plentiful food and modern medicine is a good thing?

Unfortunately we now have remote aboriginal communities like Wadeye where people are paid "sit down money" and there's a huge amount of school-refusal so kids don't learn English. Living in a tribal community may seem romantic to some of you, but you can obviously already speak English and express yourself reasonably well, read newspapers, have access to the internet, have skills that you can use at work, are able to travel and be part of the wider world. many of these kids don't have that choice.

Very good post.

Genocide is bandied about so flagrantly nowdays that it has lost all its meaning.

it like the looney right calling Obama a Nazi/Communist/Socialist, it is just used by people to lazy to look at the history in depth.

Now I am no Ken Shuttleworth fan who tries to deny any massacres or any children forecably removed etc, but genocide???

You second paragraph is exceptional in its incapulation of the issues remote settlements have in "white" Australia. All the kids from there aren't like Liam Jarrah (obviously an exceptional young man).

We still need to improve the rate of infant mortality and life expectancy for aboriginals which are a disgrace for a supposedly first world country, but it is much much harder than it seems.

[GrumpyOne]

Many of you have the black armband view of history. There was no state-sponsored systematic genocide of indigenous people in this country. There was displacement, injustice and there were some massacres. There were also massacres of Chinese during the Gold Rush. These were bad things, but they cannot be changed now. The best thing we can do now is treat everyone equally and try to ensure that today's children have access to education and wider employment opportunities.
You can't call it genocide if the population has increased. Surely having plentiful food and modern medicine is a good thing?

Unfortunately we now have remote aboriginal communities like Wadeye where people are paid "sit down money" and there's a huge amount of school-refusal so kids don't learn English. Living in a tribal community may seem romantic to some of you, but you can obviously already speak English and express yourself reasonably well, read newspapers, have access to the internet, have skills that you can use at work, are able to travel and be part of the wider world. many of these kids don't have that choice.

So where is the compensation for theft of their land?

No wonder they feel entitled to "sit-down money".