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perfectionist wrote:Shocked? It's a joke, but worth taking to the Appeals Board which can look at any evidence, including past incidents. Remember, this was the Tribunal.
Normally I would disagree. i think an appeal is an absolute waste of time however its more a case of justice in this case - that did not deserve two weeks, it does not deserve one week. The Tribunal members should hang their heads in shame.
perfectionist wrote:Shocked? It's a joke, but worth taking to the Appeals Board which can look at any evidence, including past incidents. Remember, this was the Tribunal.
Well it is chooklotto with this brilliant system:-
Jordan Lewis punches Firrito in the stomach hard enough to drop him to his kness and gets told by the Tribunal that there was 'insufficient force to constitute a blow'.
perfectionist wrote:Shocked? It's a joke, but worth taking to the Appeals Board which can look at any evidence, including past incidents. Remember, this was the Tribunal.
Well it is chooklotto with this brilliant system:-
Jordan Lewis punches Firrito in the stomach hard enough to drop him to his kness and gets told by the Tribunal that there was 'insufficient force to constitute a blow'.
And you can get weeks for attempting to strike ???????
perfectionist wrote:Shocked? It's a joke, but worth taking to the Appeals Board which can look at any evidence, including past incidents. Remember, this was the Tribunal.
Well it is chooklotto with this brilliant system:-
Jordan Lewis punches Firrito in the stomach hard enough to drop him to his kness and gets told by the Tribunal that there was 'insufficient force to constitute a blow'.
This was decided by the tribunal not the MRP.
And it was the Tribunal who overturned Lewis' 1 week (early plea) penalty with the decision that there was 'insufficient force'.
perfectionist wrote:Shocked? It's a joke, but worth taking to the Appeals Board which can look at any evidence, including past incidents. Remember, this was the Tribunal.
Well it is chooklotto with this brilliant system:-
Jordan Lewis punches Firrito in the stomach hard enough to drop him to his kness and gets told by the Tribunal that there was 'insufficient force to constitute a blow'.
This was decided by the tribunal not the MRP.
And it was the Tribunal who overturned Lewis' 1 week (early plea) penalty with the decision that there was 'insufficient force'.
Remember the gtrains love tap on Cloke (I think) and Barry Halls tap on goose? ........Sufficient impact matters not to the Tribunal
Whilst its all well & good for us to all jump up & down screaming APPEAL, APPEAL, we need to consider the rules of appeal.
My understanding is that for a case to go to appeal, you need to be able to prove that the tribunal did not follow ALL the Laws/Rules correctly. With Lawyers now involved, it has become a very complex (and costly) situation. I say we leave these decisions to the club's Legal people !!
perfectionist wrote:Shocked? It's a joke, but worth taking to the Appeals Board which can look at any evidence, including past incidents. Remember, this was the Tribunal.
Well it is chooklotto with this brilliant system:-
Jordan Lewis punches Firrito in the stomach hard enough to drop him to his kness and gets told by the Tribunal that there was 'insufficient force to constitute a blow'.
And you can get weeks for attempting to strike ???????
Only if your intials are SB and you wear two tones and a colour!
Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons; for you are a quick and tasty morsel.
Screw the appeal, screw the AFL, court injunction, this is absolute BS, how do you get twio weeks for doing something within the rules.
Seems it's still okay to break someones jaw with a shepherd, but not bowl them over.
As I said on the other thread, umpire right there and didn't even think it warranted a free kick.
Maybe the AFL are still getting us back for Silvio and Morwood.
GOd I hate this organisation.
degruch wrote:Typical s*** effort from the AFL. Appeal seems like a waste of time, given he's a St Kilda player, but it would be good to send the AFL a message.
Hmmm...AFL website article says we won't be appealing, which is a shame. Still, on the eve of the finals, why expend the energy. Zac, of all our players, is well covered for in our line-up, should we require a direct replacement.
3rd generation saint wrote:Screw the appeal, screw the AFL, court injunction, this is absolute BS, how do you get twio weeks for doing something within the rules.
Seems it's still okay to break someones jaw with a shepherd, but not bowl them over.
As I said on the other thread, umpire right there and didn't even think it warranted a free kick.
Maybe the AFL are still getting us back for Silvio and Morwood.
GOd I hate this organisation.
agreed...
Take this BS to the Courts IMO
It's time the Club make a stand and support the player all the way
Don't wait for the light at the end of the tunnel to appear, run down there and light the bloody thing yourself!
Had to check the date before I posted as I thought this had to be a joke, apparently not.
In this day and age of professional AFL clubs who train all week blocking players to release runners, including blocking those on the mark, every AFL player would expect to be blocked, sheparded or know there's some chance of being checked when he's standing in front of an opposition player with the ball.
Consistency, transparency and common sense are only words and phrases Demetriou and his empire read in dictionaries and think they sound good and the football public is stupid enough to believe they apply to the AFL.
I've had it with St Kilda being bent over by the AFL, time to make a statement and appeal if only to say we've had enough of these bullsh!t inconsistencies. Time to expose this seriously corrupt organisation that masks itself as the keepers of our great game.
We can wear it and continue to give the message that we'll roll over, and ease the tribunals minds that their decisions, however inconsistent, will not be fought.
Or we can appeal it, get lawyers in to highlight the inconsistencies over the season, and send a message that we will stand by our players when we believe they have been harshly treated. The tribunal will know in future that they will be called to account if we believe their decision is wrong!
"The starting point of all achievement is desire. "
If any one sees Denmetriou this week, line him up and bowl him over, then get a good lawyer to make sure you get a suspended sentence (which should be easy).
3rd generation saint wrote:Screw the appeal, screw the AFL, court injunction, this is absolute BS, how do you get twio weeks for doing something within the rules.
Seems it's still okay to break someones jaw with a shepherd, but not bowl them over.
As I said on the other thread, umpire right there and didn't even think it warranted a free kick.
Maybe the AFL are still getting us back for Silvio and Morwood.
GOd I hate this organisation.
agreed...
Take this BS to the Courts IMO
It's time the Club make a stand and support the player all the way
Not worth it Fid.
We all know it's complete BS and that Monkey Boy is a clueless twit, but if we appeal, the AFL at very least will screw us with the 2010 draw - which would be far worse than just copping the two weeks.
3rd generation saint wrote:If any one sees Denmetriou this week, line him up and bowl him over, then get a good lawyer to make sure you get a suspended sentence (which should be easy).
desertsaint wrote:We can wear it and continue to give the message that we'll roll over, and ease the tribunals minds that their decisions, however inconsistent, will not be fought.
Or we can appeal it, get lawyers in to highlight the inconsistencies over the season, and send a message that we will stand by our players when we believe they have been harshly treated. The tribunal will know in future that they will be called to account if we believe their decision is wrong!
Spot On!
Time to make a stand on this, we got shafted a while back when Baker coped a 7 match suspension and Sheldon got shafted because of it.
Take them to Court and prove that this is BS
Don't wait for the light at the end of the tunnel to appear, run down there and light the bloody thing yourself!
Dawson's actions were reckless and unnecessary. The actions of the club by appealing were also reckless and unnecessary.
The ball had already been kicked and there was no way that Symes should be expecting contact.
For some reason, not the MRP's fault, an unnecessary bump is considered "Rough Conduct" and is penalised more harshly than a strike or a head butt. The MRP just applied the formula.
I still think they got the Steven King one wrong and that is the one that should have gone to the tribunal. This challenge was never going to be successful.
kosifantutti23 wrote:I still think they got the Steven King one wrong and that is the one that should have gone to the tribunal. This challenge was never going to be successful.
Steven King's charge was murder compared to Zac's...I'd be more than happy to see the club appeal, as it sends the right message to the AFL. HOWEVER, we've probably got bigger fish to fry.
