MASSIVE cull ahead for the saints

[St Fidelius]

Out of Contract Players

#22 Shane Birss = end of 2008 ( Delist )...
#6 Leigh Fisher = end of 2008 ( not sure what ross is going to do with this one, may delist, but rumour has it that he is contracted for next year)

#33 James Gwilt = end of 2008( id sign him for another year,)
#3 Xavier Clarke = end of 2008 ( in discussion Aug 2008) ) perhaps keep
#21 Matthew Ferguson = end of 2008 ( delist, has had enough chances)
#38 Clinton Jones = end of 2008 ( Extend his contract till end of 2009)
#28 Charlie Gardiner = 2008 ( being his first year, dont think he will be delisted)
#43 Jayden Attard (r) = end of 2008 ( id promote him)

so thats,
Shane Birrs,
Fergo,
harves,
Gehrig,
Mcqualtor
Luke Van Rheenan, ( with Mcgrath coming through next here and the fact he is injury riddled id Possibly delist him)

Please tell me In you opinion why would you delist Birss and promote Attard??

and please give a reason

[Ralphy]

Out of Contract Players

#22 Shane Birss = end of 2008 ( Delist )...
#6 Leigh Fisher = end of 2008 ( not sure what ross is going to do with this one, may delist, but rumour has it that he is contracted for next year)

#33 James Gwilt = end of 2008( id sign him for another year,)
#3 Xavier Clarke = end of 2008 ( in discussion Aug 2008) ) perhaps keep
#21 Matthew Ferguson = end of 2008 ( delist, has had enough chances)
#38 Clinton Jones = end of 2008 ( Extend his contract till end of 2009)
#28 Charlie Gardiner = 2008 ( being his first year, dont think he will be delisted)
#43 Jayden Attard (r) = end of 2008 ( id promote him)

so thats,
Fergo,
harves,
Gehrig,
Mcqualtor
Luke Van Rheenan, ( with Mcgrath coming through next here and the fact he is injury riddled id Possibly delist him)

Please tell me In you opinion why would you delist Birss and promote Attard??

and please give a reason

i dont want to delist Birrs, he hasnt been given much of a chance thats all....

[plugger66]

Will give this a go.

They say this draft the talent runs deep. We've got picks 13, 47, 48, 63, 79 and 95. I don't think that it's so deep that it'll run to pick 95 so I suspect that we'll take 5 players unless we get Cousins too. In that case we'll get 4. Given that that's a long shot, I won't count cousins so therefore we need 5 spots on the list.

We know that Gehrig and Harvey are out
We know that Ray and Eddy are onto the senior list

So that = 0 new spots on the list.

one would suspect that the re-signing of M. Gardiner signals the end for Rix. Rix will be replaced on the list by a new up and coming ruckman. I suspect that Van'Rheehan (spelling) is most like to be cut.

1 new spot on the list

Attard will most likely be promoted onto the senior list... if they weren't going to keep him, well there would be no sense in reatining him on the senior list.
I guess the question mark is did Dempster take his spot??? It's all academic I guess as he's out next season anyway.

0 spots on the list

So out goes
- Ferguson
- Fiora (I think Ray's arrival signals the end for him)

Thats 3 spots on the list opened up

That means we need to open up 2 more spots on the list

The candidates are
L. Fisher
Birss
Armitage
Gwilt
X
Baker
Maguire
C. Gardiner
Eljay
Jones
Blake

Of that list I'd get rid of Jones who we all know is not good enough despite his endeavour, and Eljay simply looks too far away to consider... (I'd try to pick him up as a rookie)

I have a sneaky suspicion based on nothing but gut that they figure that Baker is passed it and that one Birss or L.Fisher is not needed

that gives us 5 spots

Good post. Jones gone for sure as he played every finals game and also EJ on the way out as he is an under age player and injured most of the year. You are certain to be right.

[SAINT JUMP]

hows attards knee. He had some trouble , didnt he.

[Ralphy]

hows attards knee. He had some trouble , didnt he.

Is fine now,

[plugger66]

hows attards knee. He had some trouble , didnt he.

Is fine now,

When did you speak to him?

[SAINT JUMP]

Plugger, some people, if they dont like a player, just want them out. Dont look at it, with their eyes open.

[SAINT JUMP]

I hope his knees is ok, hes had some terrible luck.

[Animal Enclosure]

Whats the bet that Cousins is selected with pick 47 or 48?

[plugger66]

Whats the bet that Cousins is selected with pick 47 or 48?

Why wouldnt we use a PSD pick on him?

[SAINT JUMP]

Rather a young guy, with a fit body.

[St Fidelius]

Rather a young guy, with a fit body.

agreed...

I really can't believe the hype on Cousins, makes me want to vomit...

Most here must believe he is the answer to better the Hawks and the Cats...

Go with youth, Cousins wont win us a premiership next year or the year after (if he lasts that long)

[Saints Premiers 2008]

chivers will go if all reports are correct

[doristhesaint]

Must be a large cull. But dont bring cousins in.C what M.Gardiner has given us expect the same from cousins

[Little Dozer]

Fiora is the only player I want out. Had a million chances. Sure he has the ability, that's never been the question. Time to go

[Spinner]

I think C Gardiner will definitely be in trouble.

[Ralphy]

Dont think they will delist charlie because it was his first year, we need more marking forwards like he is,

fiora is gone, cause we have ray now.

Fergs
Rix
Fiora
Fisher
harves,G

id rookie list Alex Silvagni, Pick up ben cousins,

[BAM! (shhhh)]

Delistings always a tough one for me - not picking my candidates, but we tend to let our own view colour our judgement, and I'm more interested in who actually will go.

Obviously, Harvey and Gehrig. 2 Spots 100%.

I was surprised by the Gardiner re-signing TBH - it solidifies my opinion Rix is done. 3 spots.

Other bubble players:
Baker (if he's healthy, he stays, but it's a possibility)
Maguire (a lots gone into his rehab, so I suspect he stays, but as with Baker, it's a health decision)

Ferguson (gone surely?)
Birss (has had trouble cracking the 22)
L Fisher (boy has he fallen since Lyon took over!)
Fiora (if we've got the cap room to buy him out, being outside the 22 he's become the definition of a list clogger)
C Gardiner (good for structure, struggled for personal impact)
Gwilt (I think he made the team through the 2nd half, but he's odd man out down back, and didn't kick enough goals up front)
Howard (struggled to get a game in 2 seasons, though Lyon's "4 year apprenticeship" line would suggest he's safe)
King (I assume he won't retire, but it's possible)

So, if we want 5 draftees (and I suspect with the Ray acquisition it'll be 4, and count Ray as a new player) as well as 2 or 3 promotions, we need 7 or 8 to go. My guesses would be:
Harvey, Gehrig, Rix, Ferguson, C Gardiner, L Fisher, Fiora, (and then I really struggle so go with:) Birss.

[Saints Premiers 2008]

is it three definite changes in the senior list or the entire list that have to be made?

[St Fidelius]

is it three definite changes in the senior list or the entire list that have to be made?

Seniors...

Friday, October 31 (2pm) -- Club List Lodgement List 1 - maximum 35 players, rookie promotion, retained rookies, scholarship player transfer and international scholarship.

[skeptic]

Will give this a go.

They say this draft the talent runs deep. We've got picks 13, 47, 48, 63, 79 and 95. I don't think that it's so deep that it'll run to pick 95 so I suspect that we'll take 5 players unless we get Cousins too. In that case we'll get 4. Given that that's a long shot, I won't count cousins so therefore we need 5 spots on the list.

We know that Gehrig and Harvey are out
We know that Ray and Eddy are onto the senior list

So that = 0 new spots on the list.

one would suspect that the re-signing of M. Gardiner signals the end for Rix. Rix will be replaced on the list by a new up and coming ruckman. I suspect that Van'Rheehan (spelling) is most like to be cut.

1 new spot on the list

Attard will most likely be promoted onto the senior list... if they weren't going to keep him, well there would be no sense in reatining him on the senior list.
I guess the question mark is did Dempster take his spot??? It's all academic I guess as he's out next season anyway.

0 spots on the list

So out goes
- Ferguson
- Fiora (I think Ray's arrival signals the end for him)

Thats 3 spots on the list opened up

That means we need to open up 2 more spots on the list

The candidates are
L. Fisher
Birss
Armitage
Gwilt
X
Baker
Maguire
C. Gardiner
Eljay
Jones
Blake

Of that list I'd get rid of Jones who we all know is not good enough despite his endeavour, and Eljay simply looks too far away to consider... (I'd try to pick him up as a rookie)

I have a sneaky suspicion based on nothing but gut that they figure that Baker is passed it and that one Birss or L.Fisher is not needed
that gives us 5 spots

Good post. Jones gone for sure as he played every finals game and also EJ on the way out as he is an under age player and injured most of the year. You are certain to be right.

Read the underlined parts

you truly are a fool interested in nothing but fighting

[plugger66]

Will give this a go.

They say this draft the talent runs deep. We've got picks 13, 47, 48, 63, 79 and 95. I don't think that it's so deep that it'll run to pick 95 so I suspect that we'll take 5 players unless we get Cousins too. In that case we'll get 4. Given that that's a long shot, I won't count cousins so therefore we need 5 spots on the list.

We know that Gehrig and Harvey are out
We know that Ray and Eddy are onto the senior list

So that = 0 new spots on the list.

one would suspect that the re-signing of M. Gardiner signals the end for Rix. Rix will be replaced on the list by a new up and coming ruckman. I suspect that Van'Rheehan (spelling) is most like to be cut.

1 new spot on the list

Attard will most likely be promoted onto the senior list... if they weren't going to keep him, well there would be no sense in reatining him on the senior list.
I guess the question mark is did Dempster take his spot??? It's all academic I guess as he's out next season anyway.

0 spots on the list

So out goes
- Ferguson
- Fiora (I think Ray's arrival signals the end for him)

Thats 3 spots on the list opened up

That means we need to open up 2 more spots on the list

The candidates are
L. Fisher
Birss
Armitage
Gwilt
X
Baker
Maguire
C. Gardiner
Eljay
Jones
Blake

Of that list I'd get rid of Jones who we all know is not good enough despite his endeavour, and Eljay simply looks too far away to consider... (I'd try to pick him up as a rookie)

I have a sneaky suspicion based on nothing but gut that they figure that Baker is passed it and that one Birss or L.Fisher is not needed
that gives us 5 spots

Good post. Jones gone for sure as he played every finals game and also EJ on the way out as he is an under age player and injured most of the year. You are certain to be right.

Read the underlined parts

you truly are a fool interested in nothing but fighting

Your point is? I dont understand your post as you obviously dont understand footy if you think CJ and LJ should go.

[St Fidelius]

Your point is? I dont understand your post as you obviously dont understand footy if you think CJ and LJ should go.

I don't think the poster ever stated the word SHOULD GO in his post...

Just why do you continue making posts that seem to be incorrect or at the very least aimed at antagonising a poster??

The poster mentioned a list of players IN HIS OPINION are CANDIDATES and NOT SHOULD GO

[plugger66]

Your point is? I dont understand your post as you obviously dont understand footy if you think CJ and LJ should go.

I don't think the poster ever stated the word SHOULD GO in his post...

Just why do you continue making posts that seem to be incorrect or at the very least aimed at antagonising a poster??

The poster mentioned a list of players IN HIS OPINION are CANDIDATES and NOT SHOULD GO

He said I would get rid of those 2 players. Of course its his opinion. Why is my post wrong?

[groupie1]

They won't bring in 6 kids. They won't use their later picks. they'll probably get 4, plus Cousins plus Ray is 6 in.

Harvey
Gehrig
Rix
L Fisher
McQual
Ferguson