Why wouldnt it be wasted. You havent even seen him play.midas_touch wrote:Haven't seen Silvagni play, but a late round pick/rookie pick wouldn't be wasted on him.
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exhibit a - why some people should think before they typeplugger66 wrote:Why wouldnt it be wasted. You havent even seen him play.midas_touch wrote:Haven't seen Silvagni play, but a late round pick/rookie pick wouldn't be wasted on him.
if a football club did that they would have up and died years ago
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I've seen him play, i'd take him with a 4th/5th rounder. Fits the bill at the ready to go dour defender we need, at least as a backup to Max and/or Goose. Young, and hasn't been through (and failed) in the AFL system like Wall, who has been on the rookie list at two clubs.plugger66 wrote:Why wouldnt it be wasted. You havent even seen him play.midas_touch wrote:Haven't seen Silvagni play, but a late round pick/rookie pick wouldn't be wasted on him.
Every defender we recruit allows guys like Goddard, Gram, Chips, Raph to play further up the ground where they are undoubtedly more effective.
If you look back on previous threads, I was totally against the idea. Times have changed, he has showed continual improvement, and is listed in the bests for the club week in, week out.
To those who say his disposal isn't great, it's probably comparable to Max Hudghton and Andrew Thompson. It's his defensive ability that we need.
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But you havent seen other backman play who could be better. Leave it to the people who know. Afterall this guy didnt even make the state squad and Wall did and he didnt make it in the AFL at 2 clubs.Otiman wrote:I've seen him play, i'd take him with a 4th/5th rounder. Fits the bill at the ready to go dour defender we need, at least as a backup to Max and/or Goose. Young, and hasn't been through (and failed) in the AFL system like Wall, who has been on the rookie list at two clubs.plugger66 wrote:Why wouldnt it be wasted. You havent even seen him play.midas_touch wrote:Haven't seen Silvagni play, but a late round pick/rookie pick wouldn't be wasted on him.
Every defender we recruit allows guys like Goddard, Gram, Chips, Raph to play further up the ground where they are undoubtedly more effective.
I think he would be still around for the Rookie draft.Otiman wrote:i'd take him with a 4th/5th rounder.
My only query on him is his kicking. When I've watched him play play he has made a few bad errors with his kicking which resulted in goals for the opposition. Maybe being on an AFL list he could improve this but I still think there are other better defenders in the VFL, SANFL and WAFL.
agree, why would we want to speculate on a footy forum about who the club should be takingplugger66 wrote:But you havent seen other backman play who could be better. Leave it to the people who know. Afterall this guy didnt even make the state squad and Wall did and he didnt make it in the AFL at 2 clubs.Otiman wrote:I've seen him play, i'd take him with a 4th/5th rounder. Fits the bill at the ready to go dour defender we need, at least as a backup to Max and/or Goose. Young, and hasn't been through (and failed) in the AFL system like Wall, who has been on the rookie list at two clubs.plugger66 wrote:Why wouldnt it be wasted. You havent even seen him play.midas_touch wrote:Haven't seen Silvagni play, but a late round pick/rookie pick wouldn't be wasted on him.
Every defender we recruit allows guys like Goddard, Gram, Chips, Raph to play further up the ground where they are undoubtedly more effective.
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in fact add that to player selection, tactics etc.
God this will be a boring forum, full of GT/RL abuse and talk about the looks of players and their hair styles......
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Having been through the "professional" system in the AFL, gives Wall a huge advantage, and therefore Alex has more potential upside. Wall is also a more attacking/rebound player, which we have plenty of.plugger66 wrote:But you havent seen other backman play who could be better. Leave it to the people who know. Afterall this guy didnt even make the state squad and Wall did and he didnt make it in the AFL at 2 clubs.
I've seen other key backmen who would probably slot into the side better, but none that are under 21, 192cm, and are the cornerstone of the side who has conceeded 100 less points than any other club in the VFL this year.
I also still think we should have had a good look at Valenti last year.
I don't follow the WAFL or SA(N)FL, so i'll concede there could be some better options there.
Of course, his 0-20m and other fitness tests would say for sure if he was able to take the next step and play on elite AFL forwards.
But have you seen other backmen play?plugger66 wrote:But you havent seen other backman play who could be better. Leave it to the people who know. Afterall this guy didnt even make the state squad and Wall did and he didnt make it in the AFL at 2 clubs.Otiman wrote:I've seen him play, i'd take him with a 4th/5th rounder. Fits the bill at the ready to go dour defender we need, at least as a backup to Max and/or Goose. Young, and hasn't been through (and failed) in the AFL system like Wall, who has been on the rookie list at two clubs.plugger66 wrote:Why wouldnt it be wasted. You havent even seen him play.midas_touch wrote:Haven't seen Silvagni play, but a late round pick/rookie pick wouldn't be wasted on him.
Every defender we recruit allows guys like Goddard, Gram, Chips, Raph to play further up the ground where they are undoubtedly more effective.
I'll admit I haven't seen him play, but he's constantly in the bests, being written about in reviews and Casey has one of the best defence in the league. He must be doing something right. Surely he's worth a rookie selection if not a national draft pick.
Maxy never was a great kicker and I actually think it's more a decision making excersise for silvagni which would be ironed out in a AFL environment. He's got a decient kicking style, unlike say CJ who is ironing out some really big kinks.LTN16 wrote:I think he would be still around for the Rookie draft.Otiman wrote:i'd take him with a 4th/5th rounder.
My only query on him is his kicking. When I've watched him play play he has made a few bad errors with his kicking which resulted in goals for the opposition. Maybe being on an AFL list he could improve this but I still think there are other better defenders in the VFL, SANFL and WAFL.
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I would hope that there would be plenty around the club (Hutchison, Sexton) who have seen a great deal of him at Casey, and would have a better idea than the rest of us.Eastern wrote:Have any of you with strong opinions on Alex Silvagni bothered to contact our recruiters with your opinions? They can be contacted via the club !!
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Its funny how when he did not play in the last quarter Williamstowns forwards dominated in the last quarter and played their best quarter . As usual 3 different forwards on him no one could manage more than 1 goal if any.This guy does his job every week.plugger66 wrote:Not fair on a guy to give an poinion just on todays game but to me he is a guy who cannot kick well, doesnt get the ball and just seems like a stopper. Not an AFL player from what I saw today and also badly injured a leg on the 3 quarter time siren.
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wonaeamirri is averageLTN16 wrote:Last year after watching Austin Wonaeamirri play in the SANFL I remember saying that we should get him with our first pick in the Rookie draft. He is just the type of player we need now.Otiman wrote:I also still think we should have had a good look at Valenti last year.
that team has literally nothing to kick to so that might as well give it to him and see what he can produce
he wouldnt get a game at any other club at this stage
he will be like eddie betts form carlton...as soon as they are challengers he will be found out and delisted as they realize that a random awesome goal once in a while does not equal staying in a 22 let alone a list
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You can afford to gamble with rookie/late round picks moreso than early round picks. You might end up with a dud or two, but you are better off gambling with a late round/rookie pick than using a 1st/2nd round pick to pick up a dud like we have done in the past.plugger66 wrote:Why wouldnt it be wasted. You havent even seen him play.midas_touch wrote:Haven't seen Silvagni play, but a late round pick/rookie pick wouldn't be wasted on him.
Anyway, I seen him play today down at Willi, and he put in a fairly decent performance. Made a couple of good spoils, and seems to have good pace off the mark.
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What tall forward kicked goals for willy in the last quarter? If you want a stopper who isnt a good kick when all of us havent even seen Tac cup players wafl players and safl players then go for him but lets face it if he wasnt playing for Scorps we wouldnt even mention his name.adobe wrote:Its funny how when he did not play in the last quarter Williamstowns forwards dominated in the last quarter and played their best quarter . As usual 3 different forwards on him no one could manage more than 1 goal if any.This guy does his job every week.plugger66 wrote:Not fair on a guy to give an poinion just on todays game but to me he is a guy who cannot kick well, doesnt get the ball and just seems like a stopper. Not an AFL player from what I saw today and also badly injured a leg on the 3 quarter time siren.