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Dan Warna wrote:ok here we go again, name another small goal forward who averages 2 goals per game regularly and 2 scoring assists per game?
as for tackling, he compares very handily to other small forwards in the competition with regards to tackling and hard ball gets.
he's what 300 goals, 1 1/2 effective tackles per game (last 4 seasons a shade under 2 effective tackles per game)
and as for consistency he has scored at least 1 goal in 125 of his 150 games, averaging 2 goals per game.
and he has had an average of 2 scoring assists for the last 4 seasons per game, and 5 marks per game for the past 4 seasons also.
accuracy rate of about 65%
have a look at his career, it compares very well to just about any other small forward in the competition.
Spot on DW. The idea that he doesn't apply forward pressure is a self-perpetuating myth on this forum. He goes in hard and tackles hard. The issue with him is not his forward pressure. It is his kicking for goal, which (like everyone else in the team barring Gehrig) has deteriorated. Why this one-time spectacularly accurate player can't kick straight from 30-40m out has me stumped. It was also a myth that he was only ever a good snapshot for goal. He was a terrific set shot. You used to be able to put your house on him kicking a goal in that situation. What has happened?
Dan Warna wrote:ok here we go again, name another small goal forward who averages 2 goals per game regularly and 2 scoring assists per game?
as for tackling, he compares very handily to other small forwards in the competition with regards to tackling and hard ball gets.
he's what 300 goals, 1 1/2 effective tackles per game (last 4 seasons a shade under 2 effective tackles per game)
and as for consistency he has scored at least 1 goal in 125 of his 150 games, averaging 2 goals per game.
and he has had an average of 2 scoring assists for the last 4 seasons per game, and 5 marks per game for the past 4 seasons also.
accuracy rate of about 65%
have a look at his career, it compares very well to just about any other small forward in the competition.
Spot on DW. The idea that he doesn't apply forward pressure is a self-perpetuating myth on this forum. He goes in hard and tackles hard. The issue with him is not his forward pressure. It is his kicking for goal, which (like everyone else in the team barring Gehrig) has deteriorated. Why this one-time spectacularly accurate player can't kick straight from 30-40m out has me stumped. It was also a myth that he was only ever a good snapshot for goal. He was a terrific set shot. You used to be able to put your house on him kicking a goal in that situation. What has happened?
Good points i agree with you on that . I still think he should come out a bit even if it's around HFF where things don't get so clogged up for him. When he's wandered out into a bit of space a few times he's been a bit of a play maker and tends to look to give off a bit more rather than do stupid things trying to finish around goal in heavy traffic.
aussiejones wrote:"He was tried their a few years ago (?) - and supporters were blaming the coach for not putting him in the forward line."
As I recall he actually wanted a go up the field
GT tried Milney up the ground ......didnt work.
BUT, a short bursts may .
Re trading ..... no way .
I actually thought it worked quite well. 2006 was a very good year for Milne.
In 2006, people forgot we were trying to fill the void of losing Penny and Aussie, plus about 90 injured players, plus more 6 day breaks than anyone plus a horrid interstate travel schedule.
The ignorant though pointed fingers at things like rookie lists, modern footy depts, not being able to talk to Gen-Y, tactics and Milne playing up the ground.
Milne is a good (not great) small forward - issues in his production stem from the problem of feed into our forward line, considering which his scoring and assist rate is actually pretty good.
His skillset is such that he covers deficiencies (turnovers by foot, free kicks against) by converting at an acceptable rate.
Put him in the midfield, and those good things dissapear, and you're left with a number of negatives that become much more glaring.
If there's a problem I have with Milne, it's that he's one dimensional. His tackling has improved enourmously this year, and is still average *at best* - if he doesn't have goals to kick for, or at least set someone up to kick for, he's often lost, and he's never likely to develop into more than we've seen. If our feed inside 50 gets better, Milne will accordingly look better, but while we'd like him to get more of it inside 50, we don't necessarily want him to get more of it in general.
Unfortunately not a midfield option.
"Everything comes to he who hustles while he waits"
- Henry Ford
milney is an opertunisic player he is like a seagull who will pop up and snag a few when the ball is coming in heaps and with good quallity but cut the supply and make the suppy dodgy he will struggle its fairly basic people complain about minley only showing up when we play crap teams well thats because when we play good teams the supply is less and the quallity of the supply is worse
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st_Trav_ofWA wrote:milney is an opertunisic player he is like a seagull who will pop up and snag a few when the ball is coming in heaps and with good quallity but cut the supply and make the suppy dodgy he will struggle its fairly basic people complain about minley only showing up when we play crap teams well thats because when we play good teams the supply is less and the quallity of the supply is worse
Which indirectly sort of supports maybe the idea of rather than flounder in the dead zone and do nothing , come out a bit and do the turning opposition players inside out and tricky little snap passes across his body etc into the fifty from around the HFF area no?
